Real Estate Rookie in Toronto, Canada

Real Estate Rookie in Toronto, Canada

Saskatchewan · Member since 2013 · 7 posts · 1 vote

Hi everyone!

I'm in my mid-20s and have no experience in real estate, but I'm really excited to buy my first piece of property this year!

I have enough saved to make a down payment and my relatives are going to put in half of the value, so I'll be responsible for paying the remaining mortgage.

My long term goals are to own a primary residence and a commercial or multi-use building that contributes to the social good - like section 8, green properties, recovery houses, etc.

I've read the Beginner's Guide to Real Estate Investment and many articles here and elsewhere. I'm beginning to think that real estate investment is an untapped passion I have. However, YEESH. The Toronto market is CRAZY. In a different league than the examples. 100k for a house?? NOPE. 500k at least!

There's no way I'll be able to adhere to the 2% rule!

I'm looking at buying a 2 or 3 bedroom house with a basement unit for under 600k. My thinking is that I should definitely not exceed 200k/bedroom.

What advice do you have for this kind of outrageous market for someone who is looking to balance primary residence with investment?

Do you think I'll be in the hole if I buy in this environment?

What if I bought a 4 bedroom 700k in a 900k+ neighbourhood?

The property will be my primary residence, so it's not strictly an investment, but I'd also like to get my foot in the door.

Thanks so much for everyone's words of wisdom. This site has really inspired me and helped me focus on making a good buy. :)

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  • Homeowner · Brampton, On · Member since 2013 · 72 posts · 8 votes
    12y

    Hi Amy,

    Welcome to BP. Although the discussion is mostly on US markets, there are some Canadians here and I hope we can have more discussion of our crazy markets.

    I'm also starting out and I'm in Brampton. I'm aiming for a much lower priced house because it's already very difficult to make good cashflow in the GTA area. My thinking is that you'd have to charge a really high rent (around $3500 per month) to just get positive cash flow (rationale for this below). But i haven't done this, i really welcome some experienced peple to comment on market for high price rentals.

    Rationale:
    I used the rental income calculator from BP, and assumed 20% downpayment, only $400 monthly for maintenance and repairs, $350 for property taxes monthly. I had to move the rent up to $3500 to make $22 cash flow per month.

  • New York City, NY · Member since 2013 · 1 post · 0 votes
    12y

    I want to buy apartment in Toronto, but i dont know which area is good can anyone help me please.

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    @Account Closed

    Welcome to BP!

    Yes, Toronto is vying with Vancouver for the most ridiculous property prices on the continent ... NYC may still be in contention, but possible not.

    If you are looking to buy a place to live and your job necessitates being in Toronto, then sadly you are in for big prices ... even with a commute.

    If you are able to invest elsewhere in Canada or the USA, you will get more returns for your money ... more in the US than here at home.

  • Involved In Real Estate · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    12y

    Welcome to BP!

    I am a Real Estate Agent in Toronto and my husband and I also invest in properties within the Toronto Market. We have done two strategies thus far: buy and hold-income properties and then we have rehabbed as well. Rehabbing is tough in the market because we have both the ON Land Transfer Tax and the Toronto Land Transfer tax...really eats into potential profits.

    If you are looking for an investment property with an owner occupied unit in Toronto, I know there are a number of neighbourhoods in which you can get into for $700k, and they have been phenomenal investments for our clients who have gone that route. One thing to keep in mind though, the basement apartment won't pay the whole mortgage, but it will certainly cut it down significantly. You would need 2/3 units before you are getting close to covering your mortgage. Also, are you prepared to do some work to an older home?

    @Account Closed If you want to chat a bit more about our experiences here in the market and what your looking to get into, send me a message, I'd be more than happy to talk with you directly

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Allison Shepstone:

    If you are looking for an investment property with an owner occupied unit in Toronto, I know there are a number of neighbourhoods in which you can get into for $700k, and they have been phenomenal investments for our clients who have gone that route.

    $700K- We recently purchased a 5 {soon to be 6} unit building for just a little over half that amount ... and I thought it was fully priced.

  • Involved In Real Estate · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    12y

    @Roy N. Where is that?

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Allison Shepstone:
    @Roy N. Where is that?

    Down east of course ;) The property to which I referred above is here in Fredericton, but there are similar valuations available in Halifax and better deals in the right parts of Saint John & Moncton.

  • Involved In Real Estate · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    12y

    Aha, that makes sense. I thought maybe you had found some magic pocket here in Toronto!

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Allison Shepstone:
    Aha, that makes sense. I thought maybe you had found some magic pocket here in Toronto!

    No ... last time I checked in TO, I couldn't even afford a quadraplex in Jane and Fitch

  • toronto, ON · Member since 2013 · 27 posts · 4 votes
    12y

    I have recently bought a new 1 bedroom apartment in Burlington ON.

  • Investor · Stouffville, Ontario · Member since 2011 · 213 posts · 65 votes
    12y

    Toronto is a great market if you are looking for lifestyle and want to be closer to your employment. There will always be people willing to rent your units. The trick is to stand out from the crowd and offer your tenants something they can not get at another unit. How you decorate and how present your units will go a long way.

    I have seen and bought many properties that I would NEVER live in. How could I expect someone else to? I renovate as soon as I buy the building and try and make it look like a million bucks on a strict budget.

    Many people buy their first investment and live in it. I also opens you up to different lending options too!

  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    hey @Account Closed welcome to the site!

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