Suggestion for a Newbie in San Diego

Suggestion for a Newbie in San Diego

Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 9 votes

New to BP but not new to San Diego. My Ultimate Goal: Build a portfolio of $10k+ passive income (net) and live by the beach in San Diego within 10-12 years (and "retire"). I have a decent full time job, can qualify for a good loan, no debt, have $200k seed money.  Can purchase something now worth $1+M.  Now just trying to figure out where to start. 

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Dan H.Pro Member
Investor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
8y

@Julie Summons

I hear all the time that San Diego is not good for cash flow but what they really mean is that the initial cash flow is not great.  

My San Diego, per door, cash flow is great. Average rents in San Diego for SFR have increased almost $500 in the last 3 years and for apartments over $500 in last 5 years. This implies a cash neutral purchase of a SFR from 3 years ago would have nearly $500 positive cash flow today.

I suspect as you hit $10k month cash flow you will find it does not go as far in San Diego as you may suspect.  Certainly it will not be enough to live by the beach in San Diego.  

Good luck

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  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    Best of luck to you!  I also live in San Diego (born and raised) and couldn't make it work here.  I ended up buying in Houston.  And 10 years later, I hit the goal you're talking about.  So it can be done!  

    What's your step 1 plan?

  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2015 · 290 posts · 80 votes
    8y

    @Julie Summons Welcome to BP and great goals! I agree with @Cody L. that San Diego isn't the obvious market for buy and hold cash flowing properties. The hot housing market has created more of a challenge to find properties but it can still be done. On the bright side, San Diego is a landlord's market to command high rents and interest rates are still historically very low so buying a 2-4 multi family property and using the BRRR is a great option. Let me know if you need anything else!

  • Dan H.Pro Member
    Investor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    8y

    @Julie Summons

    I hear all the time that San Diego is not good for cash flow but what they really mean is that the initial cash flow is not great.  

    My San Diego, per door, cash flow is great. Average rents in San Diego for SFR have increased almost $500 in the last 3 years and for apartments over $500 in last 5 years. This implies a cash neutral purchase of a SFR from 3 years ago would have nearly $500 positive cash flow today.

    I suspect as you hit $10k month cash flow you will find it does not go as far in San Diego as you may suspect.  Certainly it will not be enough to live by the beach in San Diego.  

    Good luck

  • Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    8y
    Hi, Julie, I have just recently joined BP, and also live in San Diego. Looking to start investing elsewhere, for now anyway, due to the prices in SD. I have a condo, and plannIng to use equity for the first investment. Let’s connect and brainstorm. Roman
  • Real Estate Broker · Temecula, CA · Member since 2014 · 994 posts · 783 votes
    8y

    One recommendation would be to purchase a little further north like Temecula/ Murrieta area.   The area is still growing like crazy, and the price is half of San Diego.  Rents are rising and the tenants are excellent.  Infrastructure is growing here too and attracting companies.  What used to be a commuter town, is now a full city in its own right. Excellent schools get people up here and then they love it.

    PS- I do have a nice 3 bedroom for under $400K available- tenant occupied  :) 

    Another option is to go the cash flow route in the midwest- I have several there as well.

    I would be happy to discuss.  I am from SD originally and sold all there to buy in Temecula and out of state. 

    Best of luck!

  • Realtor · Coronado, CA · Member since 2013 · 43 posts · 39 votes
    8y

    @Julie Summons and @Roman Lanyak - welcome to BP! I also live in SD, but my partner and I are investing in MFR buy and hold / BRRRR in the Morongo Basin (near Joshua Tree Nat'l Park). Prices are still reasonable, and you can find cash flowing properties.

    Best of luck, and let me know if you're interested in connecting.

    -Tom

  • Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    8y
    @Tom Murray Hello, Tom. Thank you for welcoming us, you are the first one! I’d love to meet and bounce some ideas. Would you like to get a coffee, sometime?
  • Kevin FoxPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 635 votes
    8y

    Hey @Julie Summons and @Roman Lanyak

    Welcome to BP! I am in San Diego as well and would love to connect. I’ll shoot you a pm now

  • Lender · San Diego, CA · Member since 2012 · 54 posts · 34 votes
    8y

    Julie - you're in a good position in having a paying job and being able to qualify for a loan. Whether financing  a home or investment property the cost to get in is a lot less costly getting in if you occupy.  Possible to get into 1 to 4 unit properties with just 3 1/2%  down. 

  • Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 9 votes
    11mo

    @Cody L.@Thom MacFarlane  @Roman Lanyak @Tom Murray @Christine Kankowski @Dan H. @Casey Murray 

    Thank you for all the responses 7 years ago (  I know. ... been a long while )  Finally I did it ~  reached Financial Independence and likely retiring from my W2 next year !  Real Estate is definitely a long game and I am grateful for everyone's comments and sharing on my First Ever BP question !  Have a wonderful weekend ~ 

    • Dan H.Pro Member
      Investor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
      11mo
      Quote from @Julie Summons:

      @Cody L.@Thom MacFarlane  @Roman Lanyak @Tom Murray @Christine Kankowski @Dan H. @Casey Murray 

      Thank you for all the responses 7 years ago (  I know. ... been a long while )  Finally I did it ~  reached Financial Independence and likely retiring from my W2 next year !  Real Estate is definitely a long game and I am grateful for everyone's comments and sharing on my First Ever BP question !  Have a wonderful weekend ~ 


       Congrats on hitting financial independence but I feel your post is like a tease that reveals the ending without the path there.  The path may help others starting on their journey (but paths age, the brrrr that I heavily used in my path is much more challenging today than it was a few years ago).

      Was real estate your path!  Did you invest in Dan Diego or non-local?   Residential or other asset class?  Sfr or MF?  Are you living at the beach?


      congrats

  • Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 9 votes
    11mo

    @Dan H.

    Thank you.  oh! sorry not my intent! Ended up buying a 3 unit fixer in South Oceanside, adding 2 ADUs and rented 4 units out long term.  Keeping 1 as mid term rental / beach getaway.  From property acquisition to final tenant move in took about 2 years.  My original post was 2017, after a few more months of analysis paralysis,  started actively looking around Pacific Beach area but kept getting "outbid" by cash buyers despite solid lender approval letter.  Property values kept going up, pushing my affordability further North or South of PB area. Decided to pivot and get cash ready thru cash-out refi of primary, which ended up being the Luckiest move, as soon after, the rates shot up.  Still took another 8 months to actually successfully acquire something that make money sense.  The rest was history. 

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