Its Over - Obama Wins - Now What?

Its Over - Obama Wins - Now What?

Joshua D.Pro Member
BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes

Ok - Looks like the NY Post called the election for Obama . . . seems like the rest of the nets are tiptoing around it. So, I'll stand behind the Post and call it for Obama.
[UPDATE - It is official - McCain is in the middle of his concession speech]

He ran a great campaign and won. Now comes the hard part . . . running the most powerful country ever.

Only time will tell what is to come, but now Obama has to actually make decisions and stick by them. He has to make decisions that don't just affect a campaign, but that will affect hundreds of millions of people. Can he live up to the job? We'll see. I certainly hope so.

He has made history. He has made millions of people proud. He has been a transformational figure. I accept that.

That said, I did not vote in this election for a person, but for the ideas that the person was fighting for. We've heard a LOT about Change, but now that it is over, we need to get to these issues. No matter what we think about Obama, we have to accept him - he's ours.

I want to talk about issues, but before doing so, I think it is important to discuss the media. One thing that MUST CHANGE is the way the press covers politics. The press is clearly no longer an unbiased source of information. Will they start asking the hard questions, or be entralled with history and talk about that instead of what Obama is going to actually do now that he is the Chief? Will Obama allow the press to challenge him and answer the difficult questions? Several things concerned me in the past few weeks with the way the press was treated by the Obama campaign, and I hope it does not carry forward into Obama's presidency. Our free press is at the heart of our Democracy and we the people must fight to maintain that freedom. We must demand of our press' independence. Without that, we lose a little of ourselves and our freedom.

People are excited and have a right to be, but this election was about issues, right? Here are a few questions I have right now...

What about Iraq?
Are we going to leave Iraq as he promises? How many troops is he going to leave there? What is their role going to be? What happens if we start to see violence rise once again? Do we go back in?

What about Afghanistan?
Is there an exit strategy? How do we get out of there? He has said that we're going to send our troops to the real center of terror, but what then?

What about Pakistan?
Do we go in without their permission to get BinLaden?

What happens in Iran?
Does he continue to allow Iran to pursue Nuclear weapons?

Russia
The Russians have proven that they are looking to spread their dominance once again. How does he handle the growing power of the Russian Bear?

The Economy
How does he stimulate the economy? Is there a plan to stop the tide of foreclosures? Do the bailouts continue? Do we keep printing money to save private companies, or do we let the free market take over?

Health Care
How is he going to pay for the Universal Health Care plan he has promised?

Campaign Finance Reform
After promising to take public funds, he switched and changed his mind. Can he now get out and reform the way our elections are financed?

Immigration
What is the immigration plan for the country? Do we seal the borders? How do we handle the millions of illegals?

Energy
We've been told that we're going to push green energy. . . how does that take effect? Do we drill? What about Nuclear?

UNITER
He promised to bring people together. Who has he brought together? Some red states have turned blue, but has he really changed anything? Is he going to somehow give Republicans a say in his government? I don't personally see the Republicans suddenly agreeing with the Democrats just because of Obama. What is that UNITY going to mean?

CHANGE
Ok, we've got a new president . . . that is definitely a change. He is of the opposite party . . . that is change. GREAT! What REAL change is he going to bring to the country now that he is in power?

These are the REAL questions that we should ALL be asking after the cheering and partying ends.

The next few months until inauguration day are going to be an extremely challenging time for Mr. Obama. Lets all hope that he and President Bush come together and work on a smooth transition for the country through a most turbulent period. We cannot afford to have it any other way.

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  • Real Estate Consultant · Member since 2008 · 792 posts · 30 votes
    17y

    Just for the record, I'm not saying last night wasn't historic.

    I'm just trying to rank its' importance in my own head.

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    17y

    I think the "off topic" forum got "off topic" in this thread from the original post.
    Perhaps we can get back to it.

    "Obama Wins, Now What?"

  • Tucson, AZ · Member since 2008 · 945 posts · 45 votes
    17y
    Originally posted by David Peeples:
    In all seriousness, what if a Japanese-American won?
    Would it have been a bigger deal?
    The same?
    Not as big of a deal?


    I just looked at Hawaii's vote. That the state went so strongly for Obama is really mind-boggling to me. I, a white person, lived there for about 15 years.
    As a white person, I was almost at the bottom of the race hate pile: the only ones more hated than whites there are the blacks. And not to contradict myself, but the "hapas" (half-halfs) of any kind, are as low, if not lower than the blacks, often including the half Japanese/half White folks.
    As a white woman, the discrimination was about as bad as for blacks.
    As a white single woman with kids, it was even worse, and the kids were so hated.
    I did not vote for Obama. Since it was between Obama and McCain, I prefer that Obama win.
    There is no sweeter revenge than success.
    The son of a white single mother won.
    A HAPA won! A man, a half White/half Black! from Hawaii won.
    He won the state with a huge margin.
    THAT is mind boggling.
    As to your questions, If it were Japanese-American, I think the HI vote would be over 90%. For the rest of the nation, I do not know.

    ofgift
  • Real Estate Investor · Toledo, OH · Member since 2008 · 234 posts · 53 votes
    17y

    Having watched this race pretty closely I have to say that it indeed was a historic moment for America. Who would of dreamed that we would have our first African-American President? I feel pride in that fact, because we have come a long way in such a short period of time.

    Being of mixed race myself, Mr. Obama being a man of color had absolutely no influence on me as far as who I wanted to see become the leader of this great nation. I chose McCain.

    It came down to the fact that Obama simply makes me nervous. I think the biggest thing is I'm not sure that he has had enough experience. But I do hope he proves me wrong and does a outstanding job running this country.

  • Boca Raton, FL · Member since 2008 · 16 posts · 1 vote
    17y
    Originally posted by Kel S:
    It came down to the fact that Obama simply makes me nervous. I think the biggest thing is I'm not sure that he has had enough experience. But I do hope he proves me wrong and does a outstanding job running this country.

    Im not sure if Im on topic or off but I will say that both candidates made me nervous. We have big problems to fix and as Americans we have high expectations. I voted for Obama but not just for Obama but for Joe Biden, Buffet, Powell, and all the very experienced people that are joining him in helping this country. There are going to be alot of people that are going to offer their opinion and expertise to Obama and thats why I voted for him.

  • Real Estate Investor · Doylestown, PA · Member since 2008 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    17y
    Originally posted by Joshua Dorkin:
    Ok - Looks like the NY Post called the election for Obama . . . seems like the rest of the nets are tiptoing around it. So, I'll stand behind the Post and call it for Obama.
    [UPDATE - It is official - McCain is in the middle of his concession speech] .


    Obama or any President can only do what congress allows them to do. 90% of the promises anyone running for office never seem to happen. For Business Owners and full time Real Estate Investors, well the Millionaires of Real Estate seem to be task with "Spreading the Wealth" around to the others who have not gone through the education, and taken the risk of others. So Mr and Mrs. $250K a year plus, get out your checkbook along with me.

    The USA used to be the #1 world power in the 50's 60' 70's and some of the 80's. Now I would not be surprised if we are just inside the top 10 for things that matter.

    Like the comic on Saturday Night live said.

    Step 1. Fix

    Step 2. Fix it

    Step 3. FIX IT

    Repeat...

    If it were only that easy, only time will tell :roll:

  • Manhattan, NY · Member since 2008 · 801 posts · 61 votes
    17y
    Originally posted by BuyandHoldGuy:
    So Mr and Mrs. $250K a year plus, get out your checkbook along with me.


    No thanks. I can live on a lot less than I have been making and have already made adjustments and moved some income producing assets out of the reach of the socialists coming to power.

    Bottom line, I am not going to bust my *** and have my money taken away in the name of "fairness" as long as I have any other options.

  • Attorney · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y
    Originally posted by BuyandHoldGuy:
    The USA used to be the #1 world power in the 50's 60' 70's and some of the 80's. Now I would not be surprised if we are just inside the top 10 for things that matter.


    I completely disagree with this statement. If we were not the #1 world power in some of the 80's and the 90's and today, then who is? Present your data to support this.
  • Attorney · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y
    Originally posted by Kel S:
    Who would of dreamed that we would have our first African-American President? I feel pride in that fact, because we have come a long way in such a short period of time.


    Well Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton both dreamed it before the Democratic party completely shut them down. I seem to recall even Rush Limbaugh coming out in support of Al Sharpton's bid for president. If this is such a wonderful thing, why couldn't they be wonderful 8-12 years ago?
  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    17y
    Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:

    I completely disagree with this statement. If we were not the #1 world power in some of the 80's and the 90's and today, then who is? Present your data to support this.


    Tim - This member has been banned from the website, so he won't be responding to you. Sorry.
  • Attorney · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y

    Understood Josh. Thank you for the heads up. I'll leave the question out there as rhetorical.

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y

    We were certainly the world's superpower in the 80's, 90's, and today, but that is rapidly changing. I believe that in the near future, China will be the new superpower and we'll be a distant #2. The United States is now a debtor nation that is running toward socialism, while China is a creditor nation that is moving economically toward capitalism. What's wrong with this picture?

    Mike

  • Attorney · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y
  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    17y

    The Washinton Post today ran an article, that all but straight out admitted complete bias towards Obama in their election coverage. Check out the article and all their internal stats showing the bias:

    I wonder if the other major publications will have the nerve to admit the same.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702895.html

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y

    Chris Matthews, says that his job is to make the Obama Presidency work!

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=214673

    He's lost all journalistic credibility and should be fired!

  • Real Estate Consultant · Member since 2008 · 792 posts · 30 votes
    17y

    China will be the new superpower and we'll be a distant #2.

    That will probably happen when we become really worried that they won't buy any more of our debt. I wonder when that will happen (please note sarcasm).

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aOH6tPsXkI1A

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    17y

    Several posters on this thread have implied that the US is no longer #1 in the world and China is the Superpower.

    I can not state one way or another if this statement (not quoted exactly) is true or false, but I can say with confidence that the US is not the only country in an economic downturn. We live in a global market, not just a national one and anyone not recognizing that is blind. China is hurting right now and they are losing jobs and businesses left & right. Just as we are and many other nations.
    The world is in a recession, and although I am bias, I do believe we will come out ahead when it is all over.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Member since 2008 · 792 posts · 30 votes
    17y

    Nationwidepi,

    I think most would agree that the US can remain as the global economic power. However, at our current rate, it doesn't look too great for the home team.

    When China decides to spend money on it's own problems, instead of buying our debt, is a big sign of trouble.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    17y

    David - They (China) announced a major bailout today, which I think you're referring to.

    I'm with Gordon Brown on this one . . . we need to all work together to figure this out . . . the economic inter-dependence is too great to go at it on our own.

  • Franklin Lakes, NJ · Member since 2008 · 17 posts · 0 votes
    17y

    Obama will do a good job, no worries.

  • Lender · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2008 · 351 posts · 40 votes
    17y

    What makes you say that? Just curious...

    My family (and I'm sure many others on here) are worried about his taxing. I was doing a report for my social policy class and read an article saying he was going to tax medium and large sized business 6 to 7 percent! Thats scary! Many of the businesses are very worried about sustaining there income along with their workers...

    Personally, I hope a lot of his campaign was more talk than he can handle... but only time will tell.

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