If you can't convince them, call them stupid.
Real Estate Investor · Belvidere, IL · Member since 2009 · 169 posts · 65 votes
I guess we'll see how that tactic works in November:
Speaking on health care Monday, Senator Diane Feinstein said, "I've gotten 90,000 emails and faxes on the health care bill and over 85,000 of them are against it. After all the debate we've had, I can't believe so many people still don't get it!"
This bill is one pile of smelly,stinky,rotten,skunk ridden garbage and the stupid demoncrats don't even see it :roll:
I am confused as to when is the "News Hour" or maybe "News 10 Minutes" at Fox (or perhaps many of the other channels) All of it seems to be commentary. If you can get me a time, maybe I will go back to watching news channels again.
As for many of us getting called on gramatical errors etc...I am not getting paid to write this. Secondly, there aren't millions of people who form their opinions based on what I put out there!
J
Fox did not sue so they could lie, they appealed a lost law suit. From your own link:
Sean Hannity apologized for showing wrong video. So what! Does this make every video Hannity shows wrong?
Did Fox show wrong video of the Sarah Palin book signing? Yes. Does this change the fact that Sarah Palin's book sat atop the New York Times Best seller list for weeks? Nope.
At our house, we watch more CNN than we do Fox, but we watch both of them, and others. What bothers me is that someone will watch ONLY CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or even Fox.
J Scott, do you watch a variety of news or are you one of those who say, "I wouldn't be caught dead watching Fox!"?
MSNBC mistaking Jesse Jackson for Al Sharpton
http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/video-msnbc-reporter-mistakes-jesse-jackson-for-al-sharpton/
Check out CNN
http://fridayinlove.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/cnn-refuses-to-acknowledge-mistakes/
Here is a website that lists errors by the likes of “The New York Timesâ€, “MSNBCâ€, “The Chicago Tribuneâ€, AP, “The Washington Postâ€, etc… They are errors in spelling, geography, falsified Toyota recall news, etc…
http://www.regrettheerror.com/
We could sit here all year throwing “News Errors†at each other. We could claim they were intentional. We could claim that ‘your error is worst than mine’ ad nauseum.
The fact of the matter is that most of the major news outlets were down right GIDDY about Obama getting in office. You could see it in their reporting during the campaign. That is what bothers me the most, they can’t just report what the candidates are saying and doing. They have to add their own opinion on the matter.
Come on, Mike...look at all the facts...
The law suit was against Fox for wrongful termination -- the plaintiffs argued that they were fired because they wouldn't lie on-air.
Fox didn't deny the claim that the reporters were asked by the Fox station to lie on-air...they instead argued that there was nothing wrong with asking the reporters to lie.
If there was a lawsuit that CNN was asking reporters to lie on-air, and CNN didn't deny it, I have a feeling there would be a dozen threads about it here on this forum.
If you don't consider Fox's actions inappropriate for an organization that claims journalistic integrity, then you and I just have a different ethical compass.
I was going to point out that I didn't use the daily show as my primary source, but rather as my secondary source. Despite the satire (which comes in handy to make a point) they sometimes have some great common sense points.
Hopefully you still don't have that impression. And if you do, I apologize...that certainly wasn't my intent...
no harm no foul, I learned alot from reading your posts.
Actually, (hang on, let me get my asbestos suit on) the single most accurate person in media, as determined by an external opinion-audit, is Rush Limbaugh.
He is right, in opinion as well as fact, I believe it is now 98.6% of the time.
It went up recently (think what it takes to move the % when you consider that the man has been talking for 3 hours a day, 15 hours a week since the mid 1980's I think it is) since he was basically proven completely right about the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory being a complete fraud.
(http://www.climatedepot.com monitors the climategate debacle continuously if you're not informed on the topic)
Whether you are liberal (40%), moderate (36%), or you're one of the 20% that identify yourself as a liberal- you can get more news, more accurately reported, in the first half hour of Rush Limbaugh's show than anyplace else.
Personally, I don't bother with news. Anything truly important will come to your attention, anything you're curious about, your news junkie friends will tell you about, and the rest- well, the rest just doesn't matter. In fact, MOST of it doesn't matter. The stuff that does matter, is like the weather in Chicago- it'll change in about 10 minutes.
Supposed to, yes. But when you are just reading a story from the AP wire, you assume that they already had it looked over. That attitude was the beginning of news people not being journalists. They felt that they were covered because they reported it as "AP is reporting" and then just read the story.
Now with everyone knowing that AP is "story central" they feel that they dont even have to make that statement anymore.
And when I said even here about the errors, I was not speaking about the business side, just the political side.
Everyone makes the ocassional error, and that is ok, but when it is continous even after being pointed out to them, then one could assume intent. That is J Scott's belief in this matter and I AGREE. I have seen FOX slant things just as bad as some others.
Maybe it is because my leanings are toward their slant that I do not notice it as much with them, but I have noticed it, if I were to be honest. I would bet JScott could say the same thing about his favorite "source".
I thought you did, that is why I came back with
It is too bad that even in the reporting side of things that the lawyers use their political slant to bend the laws through word usage, meanings, to protect that slant.Maybe this should be:
If you cant convince them, convince everyone else that they are stupid.
I think that "everyone else" already thinks that they are.
J Scott
Didn't you see "Men in Black?" They said the most accurate information available is "The National Enquirer". Weren't they one of the first to report the Tiger Woods situation?
Let's see, Rush Limbaugh or Keith Olberman? Hmmmm? Sean Hannity or Katie Couric? Hmmmm? Laura Ingram or Nancy Grace? Hmmmm? Didn't Nancy Grace have the Duke LaCrosse boys tried, judged and convicted in about 3 seconds? Glenn Beck or Dan Rather? Hmmm? Dan Rather got fired and Glenn Beck got promoted.
For a final tally, check Cable Ratings for CNN, MSNBC, FOX.
I think with all news sources, if you take everything they say with a grain of salt, check multiple news sources and then flip a coin, you have a solid 50/50 shot at getting it right. That's the only statistic I'll hang my hat on.
100% agreed for U.S. media outlets.
On the other hand, there are some International media outlets that actually still abide by responsible journalistic behavior...
Maybe J Scott has a point:
An Obituary printed in the London Times - not a joke and makes you think!
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years.
No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
Why the early bird gets the worm;
Life isn't always fair;
and maybe it was my fault.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).
His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but
overbearing regulations were set in place:
Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate;
Teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch;
A teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.
It declined even further when schools were required to get parental
consent to administer sunscreen or an Aspirin to a student; but could
not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot.
She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death
by his parents, Truth and Trust;
by his wife, Discretion;
by his daughter, Responsibility and
by his son, Reason.
He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers:
I Know My Rights
I Want It Now
Someone Else Is To Blame
I am a Victim
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.