Residential Real Estate Broker · Greensboro, NC · Member since 2015 · 14 posts · 68 votes
Just a fun post here. I have been a SFR investor for 15 years and now have $2M in rental RE while working a full time career. The cash flow was tight for years it seemed but the snowball of debt paydown is rolling big time now and I'll be able to "retire" in 2 years with enough cash flow to replace my salary.
That said, I can't imagine having a car payment and only buy used vehicles. I drove a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (to haul all my rental supplies) for 7 years and the engine blew a year ago with 275k miles. I made a significant upgrade and replaced it with a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 110k miles and paid $3,600 cash.
I don't need the status symbol of a new vehicle nor the monthly payment and living well below my means is my motto. As Dave Ramsey says, "live like no one else today, so you can live like no one else tomorrow".
2014 Honda Accord (brand new at the time). I didn't get the car until my old one was stolen - 2000 Honda Civic, from my car port. I think it's a balance between having an investor's mindset where you acquire assets instead of liabilities, and enjoying life at the same time. I look at "wanting new stuff" as a challenge where I need to acquire assets to be able to pay for the things I want (i.e.: new car or something else). So if the new car payment is around $400-$500 a month, I'd need to acquire some assets that can generate that much money every month, before I go out and buy it.
I don't think it'd be wise to live the rest of our lives penny-pinch, nickel and dime everything. It's nice to reward yourself every once in a while, especially after your hard work and success, to be able to pat yourself in the back and say, "Good job. It wasn't easy, but look at the reward."
The nice thing about this "challenge" is, once the payment is done and you keep the assets, the money keeps coming in, which means you've "permanently" raised your income and your expenses go down. As Grant Cardone says (paraphrased), "Focus on increasing your income, not saving pennies."
2005 Cadillac Escalade - PAID $6,500 Cash 2 1/2 years ago and have put well over 100,000 miles on it since. Its setting on around 280,000 miles now, but runs great and have had minimal problems. Most people think its a lot newer. I have ZERO desire to ever pay car payments again. Worst investment you can buy is a new vehicle. I'll drive it until it has a major problem and then buy another one 4-5 years newer and will be able to get a lot of my money back selling the current one.
Honda civic I bought used 6 years ago after my 20 year old truck broke down for good. It has 121K miles (I work in IT so I work from home mostly) and a dent in the hood and bumper. Own about 2 mil in real estate at 34 and make enough money to retire today because I don't live like Justin Bieber.
Although I've had every imaginable disadvantage in life, and stood on my own two feet since 18, I was able to pay cash for my first house in 2011 minutes south of Seattle when I was in my mid twenties. Being frugal and smart with your money pays dividends.
Bought a new Tesla S in 2014. My new S with autopilot is on order. Prior to the Tesla drove a 1999 Hyundai Sonata. The Hyundai served me well but the Tesla is amazing.
I used to actually make money on cars - I would buy them cheap, just like RE, drive them for awhile and sell them for more than I paid. But a few years ago I got tired of dealing with all the fruitcakes out there. There's a level of aggravation that goes with everything, and I decided I had had my fill. But I can't complain, because I drove a lot of cars for free or nearly free.
2014 ram 1500 crew cab and the wife has a 2014 Ford Flex ecoboost.
Day jobs pay for the cars.
I like cars and the next one is going to be an Aston Martin DB9.
2 years later, up to 31 units (had 12 at this posting I think.)
15' BMW M4 and have one year left on the lease. I had used cars most of my life and usually made money on them selling 1-2 years later before this one. Have always had a real passion for sports cars and though it's not financially prudent/frugal, I gave myself a pass on this one just because I love it and everything else is in order, and you only live once.
By leasing and not putting a chunk of cash down for a purchase, I was able to put that cash to better use with investments that helped in turn pay for this, so the net monthly outlay is relatively smaller.
I have only owned used cars (I work in the automotive industry). I am a plain jane guy, I make my living fixing broken cars and at the end of the day I rarely want to work on mine. All my stuff is bought and paid for in cash - haven't had a payment since I got out of technical school. Everything I own is crank windows and manual locks... just less to go wrong. I am a bit of a car nut so the stable is full right now:
1992 Chevrolet K2500 single cab long bed 6.5 Turbo diesel pickup automatic - 363,000 miles and serves as my Home Depot runner, plow truck and tows anything I can throw at it. Runs like it has 150k on it
1975 Mercedes Benz 240D - 62hp diesel engine, automatic transmission blue with a white top and bumpers of a 1971 220
1993 Nissan Sentra SE-R slicktop 5 speed - someday race car although I am still driving it on the street on occasion
1991 Sentra SE-R the future ultimate street car (sunroof) 5 speed- in process
1993 Nissan NX2000 T-tops and 5 speed - the high compression street car - down with motor problems
1992 Nissan NX2000 T-top 5 speed SR20DET - T28 turbo, cage, racing seats the works
I drive a '99 Toyota Tacoma, this sucker floated across my yard during Hurricane Katrina when I lived on the MS Gulf Coast. It's beat up, but still runs like a champ- I'll be driving this until the wheels fall off.
The Wife just traded her '06 Accord for a '15 4runner. Don't like having a payment, but it's significantly more comfortable to travel in than the compact sedan!
2008 Audi A8L 70k miles, 2016 Ford F-250 6k miles. I personally don't care what my tenant see me driving in. I keep my buildings in top condition and there is always a waiting list.
I just drive a 2006 Subaru Legacy Wagon. Got it for $5k a year ago. Runs great! Can't even imagine paying more than $15k ever for a car, and all cash, of course. Why would I buy a $45k car when I could use $30k of that towards a new investment property or my retirement or debt paydown?!
I have always LOVED the BMW M5.... but I refuse to ever pay for one, no matter how much I build my wealth. Now... if someone wants to give me one... ;-p
@Brian H. find an M5 with a salvage title - they will probably be in your budget. The older ones are needy if they haven't gotten regular maintenance etc done a buddy of mine sold his Nissan Sentra and put 5k of cash on top of the proceeds of the Sentra to buy an older higher mileage M5 - hasn't looked back since.
@James McCard Oh god... what have you done?! I have another new quest. How much total did that run your friend? How do you find an auto with a salvage title?
Lately, I've developed a hankering for a 1927-vintage Model T Ford. Not as everyday transportation, mind you, just as a novelty. The Model T put the U.S. and even "the world" on the road. I'd like to experience how that felt.
@Brian H. as silly as it sounds the Sentra he sold was a 1999 Sentra SE-L - it was rare in a sense that it was a one year only model and had very low mileage. His M5 has a clean title but higher mileage - however it was enthusiast owned so all the regular maintenance got done on time. I would only be guessing really but I would say that he spent perhaps 9-10k total on the car.
You just have to search CL, Ebay etc like a hawk and realize that it's now a car that is almost 20 years old and in the budget range you are looking for even one with a title issue may still have some dents etc.
Also Search Tempest is a great way to search multiple areas of CL and Uship.com will help with delivery if you need a car shipped.
2003 Lexus with over 210K. I am never selling this car. It has three DVD players. One under the driver seat that I have no idea how to operate, one in the head rest that works for both screens and one in the rear for the Navigation, which gave up long ago. When I retire I am going to tour the country and play DVDs on the headrests at the great amazement of the locals who will ask "What on Earth is a DVD?"
I drive a 2015 Toyota Prius since I drive over 500 miles a week for work. My wife drives a 2006 Honda Odyssey that we proudly brag just passed 200K miles!! Along with loving no payments, we have 4 young children who DESTROY the van so we refuse to trade up until absolutely necessary.