Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
Admittedly, I am naturally an early riser. I naturally wake up at about 5 AM without the need for an alarm clock. This is haw I’ve been since I can remember. I have read several books such as The Miracle Morning and others that talk about how successful people wake up early in the morning. Benjamin Franklin also taught the same concept with his “Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise” quote.
So hearing all of this reinforces to me the importance of waking up early to be successful. It does this to the point that I get bothered/annoyed/frustrated with people when they sleep in and waste away their morning. Now, my wife says that it is not true. In her opinion, waking up early has no correlation between being successful or not being successful. So I wanted to open this question up to the BP community. What has your experience been? Do the people you know in your life who are successful wake up early (say before 6 AM or earlier) or do they wake up later?
When I was single, waking up early did not matter. There was plenty of time to work 60+ hours, exercise, manage real estate, and have a social life...it was easy. With a wife and kids though, getting started on critical tasks early and priming the day is essential for my mindset and success. It's also a common thread among successful entrepreneurs and executives.
I know for myself whenever I am up early 4-5am I feel that I accomplished way more when I go to sleep than if I am up an hour or two later. Even if I read and get a quick workout in. I think it really is about creating a routine to get the most out of the time you do have. Haha but that also depends how my two year old sleeps at night.
In general I believe early risers accomplish more. When my teens sleep in until noon or 1, my first thought isn't 'awesome, these guys are crushing it.' LOL
What's nice about being a 10x Napper is I can roll with a mid-morning nap if I got up too early, a noon or mid afternoon nap if too late, etc. Or go next level and do both.
During my hump years I got up early AND worked late. We do what we need to do for where we're at to accomplish our why.
I'd suggest that crushers set a goal when to not do 60--80 or more hour work-weeks. We've all been there for a time but you don't want to burn out. Not many have been at their deathbed wishing they had worked more. ☺
@Shiloh Lundahl I used to be big on the “All successful people get up early.” However, if you get up at 9 or 10, but you grind till 12:00 or 1am. You are doing the exact same thing as waking up at 5, bedtime at 9.
Whatever side gets you more productive throughout the day, who cares what side of the morning you wake up on.
I say find something that works, and stick with it.
I recently started waking early in the morning. I am able to finish my personal development tasks without any excuses. I feel more focused and plan my day in advance thanks to miracle morning community :)
Now are we talking Eastern, Central, or Pac time zones? Aussie? After all, it might make a difference...since it's Happy Hour all the time...somewhere.
I say this seriously...somewhat. I've had (and still do) clients, partners and/or students all over the globe, so I operate on a 24 hour clock.
I have always been a 4 to 7 hour a night sleeper. Most of my early years was spent sleeping 4 hours a night. If you haven't read my success story I spent 23 years in the military getting up at 4 am every day and working a second full or part time job all those years. I knew when I retired from the military I wanted to be retired for the rest of my life. My first portfolio made that happen.
Not having to go to bed or wake up at any given time has been a blast. That being said I'm much more productive now because I have everything on autopilot. Why do anything when you can pay someone else to handle the daily grind for you.
Life is short my friends! Work hard while you're young so when you are older you can pay others to do what you don't want to.
Today's my birthday! I went to sleep at 1am and got up at 7am. Started the day with coffee and a nice cigar. Worked out, having lunch with my son and 5 of my grandkids. Then I'm working for 10 minutes today when I go by one of two full rehabs I got going on. Having a nice steak dinner and my favorite cigar with a friend this evening.
Does getting up early make you more successful, well maybe. It worked for me because instead of wasting my youth trying to be an influencer online I was grinding every day and putting in the hours. Living below my means and buying one house after another. If a guy with a GED can become a multimillionaire through hard work and buying real estate anyone can.
I always get the vibe that those who preach that they wake up at 5am or whatever are just doing it to sound high and mighty and like they're much harder workers than the "regular people" who wake up later. The "entrepreneur" community on youtube and social media seem to be the preachiest with this topic.
The people who wake up earlier just go to bed earlier. It's that simple.
The only metric that matters is hours of sleep. If you're waking up at 5am on 4 hours of sleep and you're "HUSTLING BRO" and accomplishing the world, then that's great, I'll listen to how you're able to do it.
But just waking up at 5am isn't some magic. You went to bed earlier. What people accomplish in their day has ZERO correlation with the time they wake up.
For me, I wake up that early most days. Old habits from prior employment. But just because you wake up early, it doesn’t mean that your using the time efficiently. Now if you make goals, tracks them and are on moving that ball forward, then of coarse it will follow that you get more things done.
It’s more about being intentional with your time, which means creating a structure for yourself to get things done. You don’t necessarily have to get up early in the morning to be intentional and hold yourself accountable, but getting up early is probably the most efficient way to do it.
Waking up early allows you to get important wins before others are even out of bed. Whether it be to exercise, work on your book for an hour, or focus on a big project without distractions. Having the important things done first gives you the early victories and an increased confidence the remainder of the day. The rest of the day almost seems easy because you already did the hard stuff. It also allows you to relax guilt free in the evening knowing everything is done and it was a productive day.
@Shiloh Lundahl well props to Russell Brazil for owning the 10am space! But we all know Jay Hendricks is the standard around here, so the right way must be 4-5. As for me, I was a hardcore early riser always by 4am for the longest time. Now I’m married with a third kid on the way. Living in a sketchy area flipping a home where I wake up to combat possible tweekers, help kids get blankets back on, crying, the mice that we can’t kill are raiding our kitchen right now, so nights are like Vietnam for me. I don’t know how to be a Joko W. in these conditions when doing all the work on a flip requires energy. I wake up right now around 8 -9 and meditate on God and life, then work a 10-12 hour day. Survival. In my heart I’m there with Jay and the 4 AMers.
I'm up at 4:30 am M-Sat because I start early at my W2 job and that's what i'm programmed to do for the past 22+ years without an alarm clock. I don't mind it at all, I have an early start and early finish so i have time to do other things. I beat the traffic going into the city as well as leaving the city. I have time for a workout and breakfast before starting work.
@Shiloh Lundahl I'm a big fan of Gary V, and agree with him on this subject. I agree with your wife, I dont think it matters one bit what time you wake up - it's all about what you do with your waking hours. If you standardize the number of your waking hours and find that you are able to do more with the hours within a certain window, then do that! Plenty of successful people get more done from 7-11 and 3-7 than straight through 7-330. So I think it's more about the number of efficient hours, and less about forcing those hours into a certain slot just for the sake of being early.
My work schedule start time is between 4:00-4:30am, I get off between 2:00-2:30pm. I started back to the gym in Dec. I'm normally tired after work so I get up around 2:15am to get to the gym before I go to work. This shift in routine has been pretty amazing. The fresh air, no traffic and no one in the gym expect for the one or two regulars. I don't know if some are more successful than other, waking early or late.
If you crush your 24 hours and results show it, then that's it! We all have the same 24 hours to slay the day!
The long answer: As someone that loves the topic of productivity, I couldn't resist this one! 😄 I love the topic so much that I wrote and presented a thesis to economists on the topic of labor productivity. The "early bird gets the worm" argument had a lot of validity when work was restricted to M-F/9-5, but we work in a technologically-enhanced era that lets us stop thinking about this question entirely and instead changes the question to:
When do you personally work most productively?
If you're an early riser (like @Shiloh Lundahl), do everything you can to work early, when you're most productive. If you're a night owl (like me), do not get up early just because someone else says that's the "right" way. Instead, do everything you can to work late, when you're most productive.
The common denominator is: work when you're most productive.
Personally, my late nights are my absolute most productive time. Fewer distractions, and well... I just feel "on" and locked in. I regularly work until 2am, 4am, 6am. If things are going fantastic, my feeling is "why stop my momentum?" Sometimes that means working straight through the night and getting rest at 10am, 12pm, or 3pm. Oddly enough, I feel a lot better going to bed at 6am and getting up at 10am, than I do going to bed at 10pm and getting up at 6am. 4 hours shouldn't be better than 8 (you'll have to consult with someone smarter than me in cognitive psychology for the answer to that piece), but ultimately, what matters is still... how much gets accomplished.
My recommendation is to never blindly follow a hard-fast rule (like "you have to get up early to be successful"), and instead have some fun and experiment!
1. Get up to work really early for a few weeks. How productive were you?
2. Get up to work a little early for a few weeks. How productive were you?
3. Stay up to work late for a few weeks. How productive were you?
4. Stay up to work really late for a few weeks. How productive were you?
Once you find what's productive for you... time to execute! Do it! (@nike, please don't sue me 😂). Does it matter what time I (or you) work? No. What matters is how much we accomplish.
All in all, find what time you're most productive and do that!
I wonder if this early morning rising only really shows its success in that the majority of people work a job or in a field that operates beginning around 8am to 5 pm. This schedule of rising “early” may provide optimal time blocks for accomplishing tasks and routines before work that prioritize what’s most important to you.
I think of you apply that idea to creative types and non-traditional occupations like someone in a band or anyone that might operate on a different schedule along with that industry, I would imagine that those time blocks may be similar. So, inasmuch as one’s priorities and routines accommodate connection with those in their most valuable circles of influence, I don’t think it’s really a time of day issue more than a birds of a feather flocking together sort of approach. That’s also assuming that waking up early means that that early morning is filled with healthy and productive morning routines.
I hope this post was somewhat coherent. It’s late, haha. I should go to bed and get up early. I’ve always battled with the idea of going to bed early. I’d rather dream and be hooked up to a machine for an hour that can supplement me with the adequate body and brain rejuvenation and healing that takes place during sleep.
The way I look at it is if you get 8 hours of sleep there are 16 other hours you are awake. It doesn't matter the time span in which those 16 exist, it matters how you spend them. I wouldn't focus on trying to be an early riser if you find it is keeping you from being at your peak performance. Just focus on making your 16 hours awake as productive as possible.
It varies for me. I kind of do what I feel like. Some days I go for a 10 mile run before the sun comes up. Other days I sleep in and do my HIIT training. My days are fluid but with some structure built in.
People can get too worked up over this scheduling stuff that they miss out on having FUN with life. It's not about a competition to say so and so did more than the next person. It really is about at least for me the ability to be happy and in the moment savoring each and every day and experience to the fullest.
@Scott Trench Thank you for your response. That was a great article you wrote. I really appreciate that you actually experimented with getting up early for several months before writing the article. I especially like when you stated, "I go to work, work hard, set goals, track my progress, work out in the afternoon or evening, track my progress, and plan my day the night before. I have had success doing this."
My experience is the people that I know personally that sleep in late don't do what you wrote. I don't often see them work hard, set goals, or track their progress. So I thought that doing those things was a function of getting up early that would motivate them to do get up and get started. My wife graciously pointed out that she knows people who wake up early and are very unproductive with their life.
So from what you wrote, and from what many other people have also stated on this thread, it seems like they have seen that success has more to do with working hard and setting and tracking one's goals than it has to do with the time of day they wake up.
@Michael Ealy I really identify with the things that you wrote. My most productive hours are in the morning when my mind is fresh (as long as I have gotten at lease 5 hours of sleep). I also think psychologically it gives me an edge because I have accomplished a lot of things that I want to accomplish, that are important for me, before anyone else has even woken up. Also, if I didn't get up early, I doubt that I would accomplish even half of what I get done with regard to personal development and self improvement because I have 5 kids and a lot of my time goes toward helping them with what they need when they are awake when I'm not at work.
@JD Martin Thanks for the response JD. I thought that it was really well thought out and explained. I also agree that generally more people who wake up early are more successful than people who stay in bed until later. That isn't true for all people, but from the comments here on this thread, the people who I was most interested in reading their opinion are morning people. That isn't to say that people who wake up later can't be as productive. And forcing someone to wake up early in order to do what I think is a better use of time may actually be counter productive for them. I think I am realizing this now.
So the things I should really focus on with my kids are whether they are setting their goals, working hard, and tracking their progress like what Scott Trench stated in his article.
@Marty Boardman Thanks for your comments. By the way, I just listened to your podcast with Seth Ferguson yesterday. It was awesome. Everyone who wants to hear a come back story should listen to it. It was very eye opening to me to be careful with what I am doing because a market can turn and if I am not prepared then I could be caught without a chair when the music stops. Thanks for sharing your story.
@Shiloh Lundahl waking up early isn't the variable here but it is what do you do with the time? If you wake up early and turn on Netflix or you get on Facebook then what did you accomplish. If someone is waking up later but is looking at and analyzing deals then who is more successful? It's the quality of what you do with the time, not simply waking up early.
It’s not your alarm clock that creates success. It’s getting your lazy arse out of bed and actually doing something that does. Similar to morning routines that everyone and their dog is hyping... your choice of breakfast and workout and meditation mean next to nothing if you don’t take those benefits and turn them into working on your business.