Is MLS Flipping Unethical or Smart Business?

Is MLS Flipping Unethical or Smart Business?

Lender · Sanford, NC · Member since 2024 · 351 posts · 117 votes

A lot of investors argue that flipping distressed properties straight off the MLS pushes prices higher and makes it harder for first-time homebuyers to compete. They say investors are scooping up homes that should’ve gone to families, then relisting them at a premium after cosmetic rehabs.

On the other side, many insist MLS flipping is just smart business, the investor takes on the risk, puts in capital for repairs, improves the home’s condition, boosts neighborhood values, and provides a move-in-ready product that buyers want.

Some call it market manipulation. Others call it entrepreneurship.
What do other think? is it hurting affordability or adding value to communities?

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Rental Property Investor · Somewhere over the Rainbow · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
11mo

What family is buying a distressed house? Not many - 99% of people want a house that's move-in ready and already rehabbed. After doing my fair share of rehabs, I am in the same boat.

How many houses are MLS flipped? Probably less than 1%. How can this possibly make buying a home for a first time buyer harder? On top of that - of the houses that are flipped - how many of them are in a first time buyers price range? Less than 1% I'd guess.

How many houses would sit and rot if they weren't rehabbed? How many homeowners would finance rehab costs then end up underwater on their house? What happens when they can't afford the rehab anymore?

The better question is is the NAR ethical? Does their lobbying prop up the entire RE industry? Would the RE industry even exist as it does without them?

Also I give your post a 3/10 since it's obviously AI generated 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Somewhere over the Rainbow · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11mo

    What family is buying a distressed house? Not many - 99% of people want a house that's move-in ready and already rehabbed. After doing my fair share of rehabs, I am in the same boat.

    How many houses are MLS flipped? Probably less than 1%. How can this possibly make buying a home for a first time buyer harder? On top of that - of the houses that are flipped - how many of them are in a first time buyers price range? Less than 1% I'd guess.

    How many houses would sit and rot if they weren't rehabbed? How many homeowners would finance rehab costs then end up underwater on their house? What happens when they can't afford the rehab anymore?

    The better question is is the NAR ethical? Does their lobbying prop up the entire RE industry? Would the RE industry even exist as it does without them?

    Also I give your post a 3/10 since it's obviously AI generated 

    • Amy LemaistrePro Member
      Member since 2023 · 59 posts · 18 votes
      11mo
      Quote from @Jeremy Horton:

      What family is buying a distressed house? Not many - 99% of people want a house that's move-in ready and already rehabbed. After doing my fair share of rehabs, I am in the same boat.

      How many houses are MLS flipped? Probably less than 1%. How can this possibly make buying a home for a first time buyer harder? On top of that - of the houses that are flipped - how many of them are in a first time buyers price range? Less than 1% I'd guess.

      How many houses would sit and rot if they weren't rehabbed? How many homeowners would finance rehab costs then end up underwater on their house? What happens when they can't afford the rehab anymore?

      The better question is is the NAR ethical? Does their lobbying prop up the entire RE industry? Would the RE industry even exist as it does without them?

      Also I give your post a 3/10 since it's obviously AI generated 


  • Severna Park, MD · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    11mo

    No one wants to see prices pushed lower .

    Few first time home buyers have the time , experience , or money to play HGTV . 

  • Denise SuppleeBusiness Member
    Realtor · Willow Grove, PA · Member since 2017 · 991 posts · 647 votes
    11mo

    Totally understand what your saying @Deborah Wodell, I think it lands somewhere in the middle. Flips can make it tougher for some buyers, but they also take homes most families can’t finance or repair and turn them into something safe and move-in ready. It really depends on the condition of the property and whether the investor is truly improving it or just adding markup. When done responsibly, flipping can add real value to both the home and the neighborhood.

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  • Investor · Fort Washington, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11mo

    I have never heard this argument before. Not sure I understand it. How do they drive the price up? Aren't you adding value to it so it's worth more? Aren't there many people who want the nice looking, cosmetically fixed up home? It's immoral because they took one home, and made it cost a bit more than the ugly home someone else can afford? There are long lists of buyers who want the cheap houses that are not touched up? Most in my region don't even bother with MLS stuff because the numbers are out of wack.

  • Peter MckernanBusiness Member
    Residential Real Estate Agent · Irvine, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10mo

    Just like any market or deal that is going on.. The market is the market, so if there is someone that is flipping that can afford the property with the marked up costs, but a first time homebuyer cannot not, then the first time homebuyer might not have been able to afford it to begin with if the market up costs were a wholesaler fee. There are a lot of wholesalers that will lockup a deal on the MLS lower than asking (the price on the MLS) and then sell it to someone buying. This happens because the buyer that is the flipper might not have time to look through the MLS and the wholesaler does, or that the buyer does not have the ability to negotiate what that wholesaler can do to get that solid price. It just all depends, but if the deal is not selling, or not going to sell at a price to a first time homebuyer, or that wholesaler can negotiate the price that is the market directing the way the house/property is going to sell.

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  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 761 posts · 560 votes
    10mo

    MLS flipping isn't unethical. It's just math and risk.

    Most of the homes investors buy off the MLS are properties that retail buyers can’t or won’t touch, outdated systems, safety issues, old roofs, bad layouts, deferred maintenance. A first-time buyer doesn’t have the cash, skill, or appetite to take those on. Investors step in because we’re willing to absorb the risk, fund the repairs, and take the market exposure.

    Flipping doesn’t “create” high prices. The market sets the value based on what updated homes sell for. All a flip does is move a distressed property up to the standard that families actually want to live in. That improves the block, raises tax revenue, reduces blight, and gives buyers move-in-ready options.

    If investors stopped buying distressed houses tomorrow, you’d see:
    • fewer renovated homes
    • more unsafe/dated properties sitting vacant
    • lower neighborhood appeal
    • and fewer entry-level houses anyone actually wants

    That doesn’t help affordability, it hurts it.

    The real driver of rising prices is supply versus demand, not whether an investor bought the house first. Flippers simply solve a problem the average buyer can’t afford to solve themselves.

    So no, it’s not unethical. It’s entrepreneurship filling a gap in the market.

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