Good afternoon BP,
I am a student investor at the University of Kentucky looking to get involved their first rehab/fix and flip in the Lexington-Fayette county area. I have been involved in real estate my whole life, watching my dad do it himself and now it is my turn. To those reading this (assuming you have done a fix and flip), I have a couple of questions:
What did your margins look like on your first fix and flip, or what do you try to aim for when doing one?
Did you do the work yourself or did you subcontract (or both)?
What was your timeline from Purchase to Sold?
Did you partner, use hard money, a loan, or cash?
and
What was your biggest obstacle?
You do not have to reply to all of these questions, but it would be extremely helpful.
Thank you,
Jack Nolan
Hi Jack,
My name is Jason, I own and operate Alto Property Solutions, which is a company that manages flips for local and out-of-state investors. I also flip myself whenever I find a lucrative enough deal.
Margins:
In my opinion, you should aim for at least a 30% ROI—especially on your first project. Even with your dad's experience behind you, there will be a learning curve, and those early mistakes can be costly. A healthy margin gives you the cushion you need while you're getting your bearings.
Subs vs. DIY:
Always use subcontractors unless construction is something you’ve done professionally. If you haven’t worked in the trades, it’s almost always better to let the pros handle it. Nothing slows down a sale more than buyers being able to tell a house was flipped. Clean, professional workmanship makes a massive difference in how fast a property moves.
Timeline:
Ideally, think in terms of 90 days: about 30 days for renovations, 30 days on market, and 30 days for escrow. Renovation scope will shift this, of course, but a helpful rule of thumb is $1,000 in reno cost = about 1 day of work. So a $30k reno should take roughly 30 days, a $90k reno around 90 days, and so on.
A quick note here: good subs are your lifeline. When you have a reliable team, you can complete a $90k renovation in 40–50 days, which becomes a huge competitive advantage and a major profit booster.
Lending:
This part varies a lot because so much depends on interest rates. If you have the ability to use cash, do it—it keeps your costs predictable and avoids interest eating into your returns. If you need to borrow, make sure you’re choosing whatever option costs you the least in interest.
Be cautious with partnerships. If you do go that route, only partner with someone you genuinely trust, and make sure every detail is clearly outlined in a contract drafted by an attorney. A bad partner can derail a good project quickly.
Biggest Obstacle:
For most first-time flippers, the renovation phase is the toughest. Unexpected issues that turn into added costs are the number-one profit killer of flips, in my experience. Some surprises are unavoidable, but you can mitigate a lot of them by doing two things:
Get an extremely thorough inspection. Many “unforeseen” issues are actually things that could’ve been caught upfront with more diligence. Inspect more than once if needed, and bring your GC, electrician, or a trusted partner to get multiple sets of eyes on the property.
Add at least a 10% buffer to your renovation budget. This gives you breathing room when—not if—you run into a surprise. Even with a ton of experience and dialed-in reno numbers, I still build this buffer into every flip I do.
If you ever want to talk through a deal or run numbers together, feel free to let me know, I’m happy to help!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown — the way you framed margin, timelines, and the $1k-per-day reno rule is really helpful. I’m planning to stay conservative on my first flip and will definitely take your advice on using reliable subs. I may reach out to you when I’m analyzing a deal if I feel I need a second set of eyes. I appreciate you offering to help!
Absolutely, and sure thing, feel free to reach out anytime!
Hey Jack, welcome to BP! Having your dad's experience is a big plus.
My first real flip (after a couple of live-in cosmetic ones) was a full gut job I bought off a wholesaler in Columbus, OH. I budgeted 3 months, but it stretched to 8 months!
For the numbers: I bought for $56k, had a $105k rehab, and sold for $210k, walking away with almost $30k profit. I started with my own cash and hired contractors for the big stuff (roof, electric, plumbing). Then a surprise sewer line issue hit, which forced me to pivot. I ran out of time/cash, so I found a great partner (a licensed GC from a local REIA) who finished the rest, and we split the profit after I got my initial investment back. The whole timeline from purchase to sold was 8 months. My biggest obstacle was definitely the unexpected costs, especially the sewer line replacement, which made me partner up.
It was tough, but a huge learning curve and great proof of concept. Good luck with your first deal!
Hey Jack, welcome to BP! Having your dad's experience is a big plus.
My first real flip (after a couple of live-in cosmetic ones) was a full gut job I bought off a wholesaler in Columbus, OH. I budgeted 3 months, but it stretched to 8 months!
For the numbers: I bought for $56k, had a $105k rehab, and sold for $210k, walking away with almost $30k profit. I started with my own cash and hired contractors for the big stuff (roof, electric, plumbing). Then a surprise sewer line issue hit, which forced me to pivot. I ran out of time/cash, so I found a great partner (a licensed GC from a local REIA) who finished the rest, and we split the profit after I got my initial investment back. The whole timeline from purchase to sold was 8 months. My biggest obstacle was definitely the unexpected costs, especially the sewer line replacement, which made me partner up.
It was tough, but a huge learning curve and great proof of concept. Good luck with your first deal!
Good afternoon BP,
I am a student investor at the University of Kentucky looking to get involved their first rehab/fix and flip in the Lexington-Fayette county area. I have been involved in real estate my whole life, watching my dad do it himself and now it is my turn. To those reading this (assuming you have done a fix and flip), I have a couple of questions:
What did your margins look like on your first fix and flip, or what do you try to aim for when doing one?
Did you do the work yourself or did you subcontract (or both)?
What was your timeline from Purchase to Sold?
Did you partner, use hard money, a loan, or cash?
and
What was your biggest obstacle?
You do not have to reply to all of these questions, but it would be extremely helpful.
Thank you,
Jack Nolan
Good afternoon BP,
I am a student investor at the University of Kentucky looking to get involved their first rehab/fix and flip in the Lexington-Fayette county area. I have been involved in real estate my whole life, watching my dad do it himself and now it is my turn. To those reading this (assuming you have done a fix and flip), I have a couple of questions:
What did your margins look like on your first fix and flip, or what do you try to aim for when doing one?
Did you do the work yourself or did you subcontract (or both)?
What was your timeline from Purchase to Sold?
Did you partner, use hard money, a loan, or cash?
and
What was your biggest obstacle?
You do not have to reply to all of these questions, but it would be extremely helpful.
Thank you,
Jack Nolan
Hi Jack,
My name is Jason, I own and operate Alto Property Solutions, which is a company that manages flips for local and out-of-state investors. I also flip myself whenever I find a lucrative enough deal.
Margins:
In my opinion, you should aim for at least a 30% ROI—especially on your first project. Even with your dad's experience behind you, there will be a learning curve, and those early mistakes can be costly. A healthy margin gives you the cushion you need while you're getting your bearings.
Subs vs. DIY:
Always use subcontractors unless construction is something you’ve done professionally. If you haven’t worked in the trades, it’s almost always better to let the pros handle it. Nothing slows down a sale more than buyers being able to tell a house was flipped. Clean, professional workmanship makes a massive difference in how fast a property moves.
Timeline:
Ideally, think in terms of 90 days: about 30 days for renovations, 30 days on market, and 30 days for escrow. Renovation scope will shift this, of course, but a helpful rule of thumb is $1,000 in reno cost = about 1 day of work. So a $30k reno should take roughly 30 days, a $90k reno around 90 days, and so on.
A quick note here: good subs are your lifeline. When you have a reliable team, you can complete a $90k renovation in 40–50 days, which becomes a huge competitive advantage and a major profit booster.
Lending:
This part varies a lot because so much depends on interest rates. If you have the ability to use cash, do it—it keeps your costs predictable and avoids interest eating into your returns. If you need to borrow, make sure you’re choosing whatever option costs you the least in interest.
Be cautious with partnerships. If you do go that route, only partner with someone you genuinely trust, and make sure every detail is clearly outlined in a contract drafted by an attorney. A bad partner can derail a good project quickly.
Biggest Obstacle:
For most first-time flippers, the renovation phase is the toughest. Unexpected issues that turn into added costs are the number-one profit killer of flips, in my experience. Some surprises are unavoidable, but you can mitigate a lot of them by doing two things:
Get an extremely thorough inspection. Many “unforeseen” issues are actually things that could’ve been caught upfront with more diligence. Inspect more than once if needed, and bring your GC, electrician, or a trusted partner to get multiple sets of eyes on the property.
Add at least a 10% buffer to your renovation budget. This gives you breathing room when—not if—you run into a surprise. Even with a ton of experience and dialed-in reno numbers, I still build this buffer into every flip I do.
If you ever want to talk through a deal or run numbers together, feel free to let me know, I’m happy to help!
Hi Jack,
My name is Jason, I own and operate Alto Property Solutions, which is a company that manages flips for local and out-of-state investors. I also flip myself whenever I find a lucrative enough deal.
Margins:
In my opinion, you should aim for at least a 30% ROI—especially on your first project. Even with your dad's experience behind you, there will be a learning curve, and those early mistakes can be costly. A healthy margin gives you the cushion you need while you're getting your bearings.
Subs vs. DIY:
Always use subcontractors unless construction is something you’ve done professionally. If you haven’t worked in the trades, it’s almost always better to let the pros handle it. Nothing slows down a sale more than buyers being able to tell a house was flipped. Clean, professional workmanship makes a massive difference in how fast a property moves.
Timeline:
Ideally, think in terms of 90 days: about 30 days for renovations, 30 days on market, and 30 days for escrow. Renovation scope will shift this, of course, but a helpful rule of thumb is $1,000 in reno cost = about 1 day of work. So a $30k reno should take roughly 30 days, a $90k reno around 90 days, and so on.
A quick note here: good subs are your lifeline. When you have a reliable team, you can complete a $90k renovation in 40–50 days, which becomes a huge competitive advantage and a major profit booster.
Lending:
This part varies a lot because so much depends on interest rates. If you have the ability to use cash, do it—it keeps your costs predictable and avoids interest eating into your returns. If you need to borrow, make sure you’re choosing whatever option costs you the least in interest.
Be cautious with partnerships. If you do go that route, only partner with someone you genuinely trust, and make sure every detail is clearly outlined in a contract drafted by an attorney. A bad partner can derail a good project quickly.
Biggest Obstacle:
For most first-time flippers, the renovation phase is the toughest. Unexpected issues that turn into added costs are the number-one profit killer of flips, in my experience. Some surprises are unavoidable, but you can mitigate a lot of them by doing two things:
Get an extremely thorough inspection. Many “unforeseen” issues are actually things that could’ve been caught upfront with more diligence. Inspect more than once if needed, and bring your GC, electrician, or a trusted partner to get multiple sets of eyes on the property.
Add at least a 10% buffer to your renovation budget. This gives you breathing room when—not if—you run into a surprise. Even with a ton of experience and dialed-in reno numbers, I still build this buffer into every flip I do.
If you ever want to talk through a deal or run numbers together, feel free to let me know, I’m happy to help!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown — the way you framed margin, timelines, and the $1k-per-day reno rule is really helpful. I’m planning to stay conservative on my first flip and will definitely take your advice on using reliable subs. I may reach out to you when I’m analyzing a deal if I feel I need a second set of eyes. I appreciate you offering to help!
Hi Jack,
My name is Jason, I own and operate Alto Property Solutions, which is a company that manages flips for local and out-of-state investors. I also flip myself whenever I find a lucrative enough deal.
Margins:
In my opinion, you should aim for at least a 30% ROI—especially on your first project. Even with your dad's experience behind you, there will be a learning curve, and those early mistakes can be costly. A healthy margin gives you the cushion you need while you're getting your bearings.
Subs vs. DIY:
Always use subcontractors unless construction is something you’ve done professionally. If you haven’t worked in the trades, it’s almost always better to let the pros handle it. Nothing slows down a sale more than buyers being able to tell a house was flipped. Clean, professional workmanship makes a massive difference in how fast a property moves.
Timeline:
Ideally, think in terms of 90 days: about 30 days for renovations, 30 days on market, and 30 days for escrow. Renovation scope will shift this, of course, but a helpful rule of thumb is $1,000 in reno cost = about 1 day of work. So a $30k reno should take roughly 30 days, a $90k reno around 90 days, and so on.
A quick note here: good subs are your lifeline. When you have a reliable team, you can complete a $90k renovation in 40–50 days, which becomes a huge competitive advantage and a major profit booster.
Lending:
This part varies a lot because so much depends on interest rates. If you have the ability to use cash, do it—it keeps your costs predictable and avoids interest eating into your returns. If you need to borrow, make sure you’re choosing whatever option costs you the least in interest.
Be cautious with partnerships. If you do go that route, only partner with someone you genuinely trust, and make sure every detail is clearly outlined in a contract drafted by an attorney. A bad partner can derail a good project quickly.
Biggest Obstacle:
For most first-time flippers, the renovation phase is the toughest. Unexpected issues that turn into added costs are the number-one profit killer of flips, in my experience. Some surprises are unavoidable, but you can mitigate a lot of them by doing two things:
Get an extremely thorough inspection. Many “unforeseen” issues are actually things that could’ve been caught upfront with more diligence. Inspect more than once if needed, and bring your GC, electrician, or a trusted partner to get multiple sets of eyes on the property.
Add at least a 10% buffer to your renovation budget. This gives you breathing room when—not if—you run into a surprise. Even with a ton of experience and dialed-in reno numbers, I still build this buffer into every flip I do.
If you ever want to talk through a deal or run numbers together, feel free to let me know, I’m happy to help!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown — the way you framed margin, timelines, and the $1k-per-day reno rule is really helpful. I’m planning to stay conservative on my first flip and will definitely take your advice on using reliable subs. I may reach out to you when I’m analyzing a deal if I feel I need a second set of eyes. I appreciate you offering to help!
Absolutely, and sure thing, feel free to reach out anytime!
Hi Jack,
My name is Jason, I own and operate Alto Property Solutions, which is a company that manages flips for local and out-of-state investors. I also flip myself whenever I find a lucrative enough deal.
Margins:
In my opinion, you should aim for at least a 30% ROI—especially on your first project. Even with your dad's experience behind you, there will be a learning curve, and those early mistakes can be costly. A healthy margin gives you the cushion you need while you're getting your bearings.
Subs vs. DIY:
Always use subcontractors unless construction is something you’ve done professionally. If you haven’t worked in the trades, it’s almost always better to let the pros handle it. Nothing slows down a sale more than buyers being able to tell a house was flipped. Clean, professional workmanship makes a massive difference in how fast a property moves.
Timeline:
Ideally, think in terms of 90 days: about 30 days for renovations, 30 days on market, and 30 days for escrow. Renovation scope will shift this, of course, but a helpful rule of thumb is $1,000 in reno cost = about 1 day of work. So a $30k reno should take roughly 30 days, a $90k reno around 90 days, and so on.
A quick note here: good subs are your lifeline. When you have a reliable team, you can complete a $90k renovation in 40–50 days, which becomes a huge competitive advantage and a major profit booster.
Lending:
This part varies a lot because so much depends on interest rates. If you have the ability to use cash, do it—it keeps your costs predictable and avoids interest eating into your returns. If you need to borrow, make sure you’re choosing whatever option costs you the least in interest.
Be cautious with partnerships. If you do go that route, only partner with someone you genuinely trust, and make sure every detail is clearly outlined in a contract drafted by an attorney. A bad partner can derail a good project quickly.
Biggest Obstacle:
For most first-time flippers, the renovation phase is the toughest. Unexpected issues that turn into added costs are the number-one profit killer of flips, in my experience. Some surprises are unavoidable, but you can mitigate a lot of them by doing two things:
Get an extremely thorough inspection. Many “unforeseen” issues are actually things that could’ve been caught upfront with more diligence. Inspect more than once if needed, and bring your GC, electrician, or a trusted partner to get multiple sets of eyes on the property.
Add at least a 10% buffer to your renovation budget. This gives you breathing room when—not if—you run into a surprise. Even with a ton of experience and dialed-in reno numbers, I still build this buffer into every flip I do.
If you ever want to talk through a deal or run numbers together, feel free to let me know, I’m happy to help!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown — the way you framed margin, timelines, and the $1k-per-day reno rule is really helpful. I’m planning to stay conservative on my first flip and will definitely take your advice on using reliable subs. I may reach out to you when I’m analyzing a deal if I feel I need a second set of eyes. I appreciate you offering to help!
Absolutely, and sure thing, feel free to reach out anytime!
Will do! Thank you.
@Jack Nolan, On my first flips, I aimed for 15–20% net, subcontracted most of the work, and the biggest lesson was lining up reliable trades before closing. If you buy right, keep scope tight, and budget for surprises, you’ll set yourself up for a win.
@Jack Nolan, On my first flips, I aimed for 15–20% net, subcontracted most of the work, and the biggest lesson was lining up reliable trades before closing. If you buy right, keep scope tight, and budget for surprises, you’ll set yourself up for a win.
Good afternoon BP,
I am a student investor at the University of Kentucky looking to get involved their first rehab/fix and flip in the Lexington-Fayette county area. I have been involved in real estate my whole life, watching my dad do it himself and now it is my turn. To those reading this (assuming you have done a fix and flip), I have a couple of questions:
What did your margins look like on your first fix and flip, or what do you try to aim for when doing one?
Did you do the work yourself or did you subcontract (or both)?
What was your timeline from Purchase to Sold?
Did you partner, use hard money, a loan, or cash?
and
What was your biggest obstacle?
You do not have to reply to all of these questions, but it would be extremely helpful.
Thank you,
Jack Nolan
What did your margins look like on your first fix and flip, or what do you try to aim for when doing one?- Honestly it was such a long time ago that I can't remember our margins or what we aimed for. What we aim for now is a minimum return better than what we can get from our stocks. I do recall that at the beginning we would not accept a profit less than $25K on small single family homes.
Did you do the work yourself or did you subcontract (or both)?- Never did anywork outselves. That's just another job & we could not scale doing work ourselves.What was your biggest obstacle?- Analysis paralysis.
Good luck