How do you determine a scope or work and what materials to buy?

How do you determine a scope or work and what materials to buy?

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Hello, my husband and I are looking to do our first rehab in a different city than where we live (we live in Austin and looking to buy in El Paso), and are wondering how one determines and writes a scope of work and determine what material to buy for what. Does this all come from the general contractor? How does one define design choices, etc?

Second question is, if we don't live in the city we will invest in, we understand we will have to be traveling often, but who could be a good person to check in on the construction so we don't have to go every week? Would that be a property manager? Is that on the general contractor to keep us posted? Or do we need to travel every week?

Any advice on the process above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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@Sofia De Santos Tavarez if you haven't already, have the property professionally inspected.

This should catch MOST of the structural, health & code issues - but not all.

As others have stated, your fit & finish goals should be guided by whether you plan to:

1) Rent: tenants don't always take care of a property, so you want to use lower-grade materials and workmanship.

2) Flip: higher quality on workmanship and materials is usually required.

Regardless, you always want to "Maintain to the Neighborhood". So, scope out the competition on #1 & #2 above to understand what the rental or sale market expects.
- You will lose money if you go overboard!

You haven't even asked about your BIGGEST challenge - finding "trustworthy" contractors.
- Most contractors will cut corners, or worse, once they figure out they won't be watched closely:( Your job will also go to the bottom of their priority list.

Monitoring progress is relatively easy: hire that same inspector to go by weekly or before any payments to take a VIDEO of:
1) What was done
2) Quality of workmanship

One other thing you didn't ask about, payments to contractors.
- They all want 50% down or as much as they can squeeze out of you. 
Recommend RARELY to agree to that! It automatically puts you upside down with them. 
The excuse contractors always give is that they need the funds for materials. Take that away by making it clear you will pay for, even supply, all materials. Then they won't need an upfront payment for work they haven't provided yet.

Also, get a signed contract, copy of the drivers license, contractor's license and be added to their liability insurance. Document every communication in writing! Even after a verbal discussion, send an email asking them to confirm you understood them correctly.

Good luck!

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  • Real Estate Broker · CA · Member since 2024 · 60 posts · 42 votes
    1y

    Unless you can handle all aspects of the project yourself - I would hire a general contractor (GC) for the rehab project. The GC can handle the entire project, coordinate different subcontractors and make sure the project is completed per building codes - especially if the rehab is complex or involves multiple trades like plumbing, electrical, and carpentry.

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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    Quote from @Sofia De Santos Tavarez:

    Hello, my husband and I are looking to do our first rehab in a different city than where we live (we live in Austin and looking to buy in El Paso), and are wondering how one determines and writes a scope of work and determine what material to buy for what. Does this all come from the general contractor? How does one define design choices, etc?

    Second question is, if we don't live in the city we will invest in, we understand we will have to be traveling often, but who could be a good person to check in on the construction so we don't have to go every week? Would that be a property manager? Is that on the general contractor to keep us posted? Or do we need to travel every week?

    Any advice on the process above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


    Is this a rental or flip?

    Design choices should come from you and you should discuss them with the GC as part of the bidding process. I would not let a GC pick finishes - especially if its a flip - if anything get a realtor to assist.

    In regards to doing this from afar, I recommend hiring a project manager for a few grand per month to oversee the project for you, if not you are relying 100% on the GC which is not something I recommend. 

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  • Jake BakerBusiness Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · San Diego, CA · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 695 votes
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    @Sofia De Santos Tavarez

    I agree with @Lorraine Hadden that hiring a GC is the move. A good GC is essential, especially for remote projects. The GC should help you determine the scope of work and provide a list of materials based on your goals (e.g., rental vs. flip) and the property's target market. To streamline design choices, create a design guide or "mood board" beforehand to stay consistent with finishes that match the neighborhood's expectations.

    For monitoring progress, a property manager can sometimes oversee construction, but it’s typically better to rely on the GC for updates. Set clear expectations with them upfront—weekly reports with photos, videos, or virtual walkthroughs work well. Tools like Buildertrend can also help you manage the project remotely. And you're right about avoiding weekly travel—sound systems can save you time and stress!

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  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Sofia De Santos Tavarez if you haven't already, have the property professionally inspected.

    This should catch MOST of the structural, health & code issues - but not all.

    As others have stated, your fit & finish goals should be guided by whether you plan to:

    1) Rent: tenants don't always take care of a property, so you want to use lower-grade materials and workmanship.

    2) Flip: higher quality on workmanship and materials is usually required.

    Regardless, you always want to "Maintain to the Neighborhood". So, scope out the competition on #1 & #2 above to understand what the rental or sale market expects.
    - You will lose money if you go overboard!

    You haven't even asked about your BIGGEST challenge - finding "trustworthy" contractors.
    - Most contractors will cut corners, or worse, once they figure out they won't be watched closely:( Your job will also go to the bottom of their priority list.

    Monitoring progress is relatively easy: hire that same inspector to go by weekly or before any payments to take a VIDEO of:
    1) What was done
    2) Quality of workmanship

    One other thing you didn't ask about, payments to contractors.
    - They all want 50% down or as much as they can squeeze out of you. 
    Recommend RARELY to agree to that! It automatically puts you upside down with them. 
    The excuse contractors always give is that they need the funds for materials. Take that away by making it clear you will pay for, even supply, all materials. Then they won't need an upfront payment for work they haven't provided yet.

    Also, get a signed contract, copy of the drivers license, contractor's license and be added to their liability insurance. Document every communication in writing! Even after a verbal discussion, send an email asking them to confirm you understood them correctly.

    Good luck!

  • Frank PyleBusiness Member
    Specialist · USA · Member since 2024 · 279 posts · 130 votes
    1y

    Hey there! Congrats on taking the plunge into your first rehab project! 

    For your first question, writing a scope of work (SOW) involves detailing all the tasks and materials needed for your project. It usually starts with a thorough walkthrough of the property to list all repairs and improvements.  You can then document these in a SOW, which helps contractors provide accurate bids. While a general contractor (GC) can help with this, it's good to have your own detailed plan to avoid misunderstandings.

    As for materials, you can either let your GC handle everything or split responsibilities—GC for rough materials (like lumber and drywall) and you for finish materials (like cabinets and flooring).  This way, you can ensure the design choices match your vision.

    Defining design choices often involves working with a designer or architect, but if you're hands-on, you can select finishes and fixtures yourself. Just make sure everything aligns with your overall vision and budget.

    For your second question, if you can't be in El Paso every week, you have a few options. A property manager can be a great asset for regular check-ins and updates. Alternatively, your GC can keep you posted on progress, but having a local project manager or even a trusted friend to occasionally drop by can provide extra peace of mind.

    Hope this helps, and good luck with your rehab project! If you have more questions, feel free to ask. 

    Frank Pyle at ExP Realty
    NEXA Lending- Investors Edge Concierge
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  • Member since 2024 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    Thank you all for the detailed answers! Very helpful. 

  • Member since 2024 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    @Frank Pyle when you say project manager, do you mean property manager? Are those the same thing?

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    1y

    The best way to develop a solid SOW is this - you start off with what you are visualizing in your head, send drawings, pictures and products that you like. Be specific...."I want to refurbish the entire house, including a complete kitchen and baths renovation, add an addition on the east side, new roof and siding, new flooring everywhere, paint inside and out"

    Then ask the GC to go over and put this into a more formal document. Then you go over this and further expand the minute details, then send back to the GC until it is complete. I would add specific details like pictures of the fixtures/flooring/cabinets.....SKU #s and pictures of everything. You literally cannot have too little detail.

    Make this document 'Exhibit A', everyone signs it, and attach it to the contract.

    A Project Manager is different than a Property Manager. If you cannot make the trip every week, then hire a Project Manager (like a retired GC) to be your voice in this process. Alternatively, if you can find a great GC who you trust, then you won't need anyone else.

  • Melanie P.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 922 votes
    1y

    @Sofia De Santos Tavarez Why are you going to El Paso? If it's because the property is cheaper out that way it's not a good reason. You'll have proportionally less upside and thus less room to cover errors and overruns on a project with a new team you'll be far away from. 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Melanie P.:

    @Sofia De Santos Tavarez Why are you going to El Paso? If it's because the property is cheaper out that way it's not a good reason. You'll have proportionally less upside and thus less room to cover errors and overruns on a project with a new team you'll be far away from. 


    I was thinking this too. Austin is more expensive for sure, but way more upside and you can handle a lot of issues yourself!

  • Melanie P.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 922 votes
    1y

    You'll have the same potential upside range wherever you do it - 10-40% are probably the outside ranges. You just have to decide if you want that to be of a property you acquired for $150,000 or $400,000. The math is obvious but there's a natural tendency to go for properties you can obtain at a lower basis. Start networking with wholesalers for more opportunities in your home area.

  • Frank PyleBusiness Member
    Specialist · USA · Member since 2024 · 279 posts · 130 votes
    1y
    Quote from @Sofia De Santos Tavarez:

    @Frank Pyle when you say project manager, do you mean property manager? Are those the same thing?


    Yes, the roles of a project manager and a property manager differ significantly. A project manager is responsible for overseeing your remodeling project, while a property manager handles the overall management of the property, including maintenance, rent collection, and more.

    Frank Pyle at ExP Realty
    NEXA Lending- Investors Edge Concierge
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  • Member since 2024 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    1y

    A good GC would be a great fit to being the person to give you updates while you are away from the project.  

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