The Memphis BRRRR trap nobody checks: your refinance may be too small

The Memphis BRRRR trap nobody checks: your refinance may be too small

Josh HandlerPro Member
Contractor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2026 · 72 posts · 86 votes

I'm a general contractor in Memphis, which means I usually meet this problem after it's already happened. Somebody calls me when the renovation is finished and asks whether there's anything we could add that would bring the appraisal up. By then the answer is almost always no, and more importantly the appraisal usually wasn't the problem at all.

The problem was the size of the loan.

Here's the mechanism, and I don't see it discussed nearly enough for a market like this one.

Most DSCR lenders have a MINIMUM LOAN AMOUNT. Commonly somewhere in the seventy-five to one-hundred-thousand-dollar range, though it varies a lot by lender. That number has nothing to do with you, your credit, the rent, or how good the renovation is. It's a floor, because a small loan costs them nearly the same to originate and service as a large one.

Now put that against the arithmetic of a cheap-market BRRRR.

Say you buy at 55, put 35 into it, and you're all-in at 90. Your finished value comes in at 125 and the lender goes to 75 percent of that. Seventy-five percent of 125 is about 94. You clear the floor, you pull your money back, the strategy works exactly as advertised.

Now run the same deal on a street where the finished value is 100 instead of 125. Seventy-five percent of 100 is 75. Depending on your lender you are now at or under the minimum, and if you're under it there is no refinance at any interest rate. Not an expensive refinance. No refinance. The exit you built the whole plan around does not exist, and you find this out after the money is spent.

What makes this specifically a cheap-market trap is the thing I say constantly from the construction side: renovation cost is close to FLAT across a city. A roof is a roof, a panel is a panel, a repipe is a repipe, whether the house sits in Frayser or in Germantown. The finished value is not flat at all. So the cheapest zips give you the smallest spread between cost and value AND the smallest loan at the end. Both problems get worse together, which is why the bottom of this market punishes people who did everything else right.

The fix costs one phone call and it has to happen before you buy anything, not after.

Talk to the DSCR lender FIRST, before the hard money lender, and get four things in writing. The minimum loan amount. The seasoning period. Any minimum property value or square footage. And the condition requirements at the time of refinance.

Then work backwards. If your lender's floor is 80 and they go to 75 percent, your minimum finished value is about 107. That number is now a hard filter on which streets you can even shop, and it's a far more useful filter than any of the usual rules of thumb, because it's specific to your actual exit rather than to somebody's blog post.

Also worth knowing: lenders differ enormously on this. If your deal is just under one lender's floor, another may write it. It's worth asking three rather than assuming the first answer is the market.

The honest counterweight, because this isn't an argument against cheap houses.

If you're buying with cash, or using a portfolio lender or a local bank that holds the loan, this constraint may not apply to you at all, and those buyers can go places the DSCR crowd can't. And leaving some money in a deal is not a failure. A house that cash flows with twelve thousand dollars left in it is a perfectly good outcome and frequently a safer one than the version where you pulled everything out and have no reserve for the first winter.

The failure is only when the exit you planned turns out not to be available, because then you're making the decision under pressure instead of in advance.

Curious what minimums people are actually seeing right now, and from which kinds of lenders. I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who hit this floor and what they did about it, because the workarounds are the part I know least about. I only see these houses from the inside.

Full disclosure as always: I run a construction company here, so I have an obvious interest in people renovating houses in Memphis. This post argues for checking something that occasionally stops a renovation from happening at all.

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  • Logan LambertPro Member
    Member since 2026 · 15 posts · 7 votes
    2w

    I've actually done DSCR loans as low as $50K. You're absolutely right that most DSCR lenders have minimum loan amounts, typically starting around $75K to $100K. However, I have an outlet that doesn't have a set minimum loan amount.

    Obviously, origination fees will be structured accordingly on smaller loans, but financing is still possible.

    I also completely agree with your point about the exit strategy. If you're buying in a market where property values are lower, you absolutely need to understand your refinance options before you even purchase the property. The last thing you want is to finish a renovation and realize your exit financing isn't available.

  • AJ ExnerPro Member
    Lender · Springfield, MO · Member since 2023 · 661 posts · 320 votes
    2w

    First of all, great post @Josh Handler I see that quite a bit and its unfortunate because its such a simple guideline that can get overlooked

    Actually saw another post that talked about banking on a certain appraised value in order to get the deal done because of loan minimums. I never like having to rely on appraisals more than is already necessary, so either having a back up plan or just knowing which groups can meet your basic 'buy box' requirements is pretty important.

    I have seen a few retail lenders go down to 75k, but a few wholesale groups will bounce around 50k, but you can even portfolio a few lower valued properties to collectively meet a required minimum if needed.

    The rates are a bit higher, but the difference between 7% and 9% on 50k is about 70 bucks a month, so its easier to absorb

  • Simon W.Business Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Lehigh Valley PA & New York City · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 689 votes
    2w

    Good post, and the floor is something a lot of people miss. What I'd add is what the refi does to the books.

    The cash you pull out is loan proceeds, not income, and borrowing doesn't reduce your basis. So on your example, $90k all-in and a $94k loan, you got your money back, but depreciation still runs off that $90k, less the land. The lender, title, and appraisal costs on the refi are loan costs. Say that's $3,000. It gets spread over the 30 years, about $100 a year, and if you pay the loan off early the rest is written off then.

    I'd keep those refi costs and the $35k of rehab in separate buckets so they don't get mixed into the building's basis. And if you leave $12k in, it's just your equity still in the house. AJ's idea of grouping a few small loans is useful, but then each house needs its own cost record so the costs can be split properly.

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  • Matthew MorrowBusiness Member
    Investor · PA - NY - NJ · Member since 2019 · 927 posts · 331 votes
    2w

    @Josh Handler good point on minimum loan amounts. People don't think about that one on cheaper houses. In our area the bigger issue lately has been the other side of it. Appraisals are coming in light across the board, on refis and purchases. So on a BRRRR I'd plan for both: know the lender's minimum and how much they'll lend against value, and make sure the deal still works if the value lands under your ARV. Hope some of that is useful.

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  • Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 6 votes
    1w

    @Josh Handler, this matches what I saw from the buy-and-hold side. This week I ran every active Memphis-area listing through a cash-flow screen at 25% down, 7%, full expenses plus a bad-debt line, and local tax rates. 391 of 2,854 cash flowed, and about three in four of those list under $100k.

    That's your point exactly. The price band where the rent works is the same band where a DSCR minimum loan can kill the refinance. Call the DSCR lender before the hard-money lender.

    The other thing that moves the count is insurance. Going from an estimate scaled to the house price to a flat $1,500 a year knocked out 50 deals. What are owners here actually paying on $70–100k houses?

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