First Kansas City Turnkey Purchase

First Kansas City Turnkey Purchase

Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes

Hey Everyone, 

I figured I would document my first turn key purchase in Kansas City, MO. I read another members similar blog and found it very helpful. I won't be naming company names unless through private message for feel free to ask. 

I researched a number of turn-key companies before narrowing it down to a few. I also found an area that I was comfortable enough (a BP member drove the area and gave me the low down) with and pulled the trigger on one. 

My wife and I executed the contract on 2/10. The lender that BP suggested works weekends & as a Realtor myself, I really appreciate that. Also, every company & seems agent I have spoken with seems to know and respect this guy. Locked in my rate this morning (5% w/ 20% down). I was tempted to by down the rate to 4.75% since I negotiated $1600 in closing cost credit but realized I'd rather keep the maximum cash in my pocket. The more cash I keep, the quicker I can buy #2 if all goes well. And really after looking at the number, the .25 difference really wasn't worth it in my opinion.

Also, my contact at the turn-key company and title company they chose has been working this weekend as well. There has already been a string of emails going back an forth this morning. We have reach out to the physical inspection company to schedule the inspection. This company was also chosen through BP suggestions and vetted through reviews and past clients. 

Off to a good start I suppose. Here are my research numbers. I know it always looks better on paper so we will see in 12-13 months where the numbers actual fall.

Purchase Price: $85,000

Down Payment: 17,000

Estimated closing costs after credit: $1,100ish

Total Cash Out of Pocket: $18,100ish

Mortgage Payment: $365

Rent: $948

Gross Rent: $11,376

Estimated Expenses:

Property Tax: $486

Insurance: $675

Property Management: $910

Vacancy: $910 (8%)

Maintenance: $910 (8%)

NOI- $7,484

Cash Flow: $258.66

Cap Rate- 9%

COC Return: 17%

Again, follow along as this newbie enters the world of REI.

If you comment, please make it constructive. None of that negativity please. 

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Rental Property Investor · Shawnee Mission, KS · Member since 2014 · 205 posts · 136 votes
9y

Congrats, I think you did pretty well here. My recommendation is to figure in $100-$125 for CapEx right away, assuming you have a long term hold in mind. I also like the zip code you bought in, some nice neighborhoods in there. The property tax is surprisingly low. My only house in KC with lower tax is in a borderline hood area. I strongly recommend to run the address on rentometer.com (I have a professional subscription, but anyone can run a general analysis) and confirm the market rent. Even the most reputable turnkey companies naturally fill their properties at the top of the market rent it makes all the other metrics look great and maximizes the purchase price potential. Also check comps on MLS/zillow and make sure the purchase price seems to fit and you aren't starting with much negative equity. Regarding vacancy and maintenance, consider costs of make-ready and LEASING FEES between tenants in addition to month-to-month items. With just one property in the portfolio right now, be conservative. PM if you want any help.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    9y
    So far so good Jared Viernes it was a pretty simple purchase. Negotiate all the repairs I found that were needed. It was tenanted prior to closing. 3 month warranty on repairs after closing. First check hit the bank. Pretty painless so far but I'm only a month & a 1/2 after closing.
  • Walnut, CA · Member since 2016 · 18 posts · 9 votes
    9y

    Thanks @Chris Nordella!

    @James Wachob I will. I'll likely be back in Memphis in the fall of this year. I'll give you a ping.

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    Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 890 votes
    9y

    @Mike Ruangutai sounds like a plan! I love showing people around Memphis, looking at properties, and grabbing some of our famous BBQ!

  • Jamaica, NY · Member since 2016 · 46 posts · 8 votes
    9y
    Chris Nordella Congratulations and thank you so much for sharing. I'm trying not to get stuck in this research phase and post like this give a nice push to take that next step. Many blessings on future investments. Please continue to share. Great thread.
  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    9y
    Thanks Shaune Faust Yeah I got stuck in the research phase for a while & finally said screw it. It can't really go hurt me that bad even if it turns out to be a bad investment. But so far so good!
  • Surveyor · Hemet, CA · Member since 2015 · 797 posts · 112 votes
    9y

    Strong thread here we are getting ready to do a 1031 exchange and we will be looking for a rentals or a multi family. Wish Oxnard was a tiny bit closer I could ask you about this situation.

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    9y
    Robin Boyer I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have & help point you in the right direction.
  • Upland, CA · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    Thanks for the intel Chris. I have been looking into the same market, and you have inspired me to get in gear and move. : ) 

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    9y
    Get it Jeff Birchfield
  • Rental Property Investor · Ventura, CA · Member since 2016 · 62 posts · 34 votes
    9y
    Chris Nordella great thread Chris. I'm in Ventura and just bought a turnkey a couple of months ago in Dayton Ohio which has been going well so far. Please do shout anytime you want to connect. Be interested to hear about your out of state journey and connect over coffee. Kate
  • Surveyor · Hemet, CA · Member since 2015 · 797 posts · 112 votes
    9y

    Thank you very much Chris I'll give you a call tomorrow.  Tomorrow we are meeting sean from bigger pockets and he going to check out our office building! Stoked to meet another member. 

  • Surveyor · Hemet, CA · Member since 2015 · 797 posts · 112 votes
    9y

    Someone was  telling me they were doing the best with getting houses for about 100,000 air me a run for 1250 a month sounds nice of you have cash to get three of them which we might.

  • Lawrence, KS · Member since 2017 · 175 posts · 51 votes
    9y

    Being near Cerner is definitely a plus. Hire a ton of young working professionals that don't have the money for a down payment but have solid income and could pay premiums. I know because 20 or so of my friends work there.

  • Rental Property Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2015 · 112 posts · 142 votes
    9y

    I have 8 in dayton and they are going well so far. I am curious though how you all are structuring so as to minimize tax on rental income. I have a number in colorado and then now dayton. I was going to buy more but we have been looking at state and city tax and then federal and got killed last year. any thoughts? 

  • Lawrence, KS · Member since 2017 · 175 posts · 51 votes
    9y

    Brownback did exempt KS income taxes on passthrough entities in KS but I don't know how that affects out of state investors. Obviously talk to a CPA

  • Equity Raiser and Turnkey Provider · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    I hope this is going well. A good TK can be a solid investment!

  • Kansas City, MO · Member since 2015 · 32 posts · 7 votes
    9y

    @Chris Nordella, congratulations and thank you so much for posting about your success. I'm in KC and am just in the start up mode, learning and getting started. It's encouraging to see so many people say they think this is a good market - especially @Jay Hinrichs who's BP podcast was the first I listened to and WOW - what a story and so therefore, a high recommendation of my city. 

    I'd love if you'd pm me the turnkey folks you worked with for my information. Also, I can be some eyes and ears and even a talking head here on the ground if anyone is interested in partnering up with a beginner who is eager to learn and grow!

  • Flushing, NY · Member since 2017 · 15 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Congratulations @Chris Nordella on your TK purchase!

    I'm also currently looking to invest out of state with turnkey companies. Glad it has worked out for you. This thread boosted my confidence about turnkey companies a whole lot.

    If you don't mind me asking, how much did the repairs and inspections cost you at the end?

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    9y

    @Mary P. Thank you! I used USREEB. So far so good.

    @Young Hwang The inspection and reinspection cost was $614. USREEB took care of all repairs. 

  • Flushing, NY · Member since 2017 · 15 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    @Chris Nordella so it seems like you have nothing but good feelings for USREEB. I will start looking into it. Thanks!

  • Real Estate Agent · Oxnard, CA · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 77 votes
    9y

    @Young Hwang The purchase process was pretty simple. They took care of all repairs I asked for. They already had it tenanted and first payment came in on time. So all is good so far. I'm sure one day I will find something that I don't like but can't complain so far!

  • Surveyor · Hemet, CA · Member since 2015 · 797 posts · 112 votes
    9y

    Thanks for the call Chris. I was reading sometimes it's better if you are a first time land lord to try in your back yard to see how you do.  Time to start looking for deals!

  • Investor · Pearl City, HI · Member since 2017 · 30 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    @Chris Nordella

    This sounds like a great deal, congrats! I'm looking into turnkey companies myself, would you mind sharing who you went through and how your experience was?

    Thanks!

    Ah sorry, just read the latest comments!  USREEB was a company we were researching as well, thank you for sharing!!

  • Real Estate Investor · West Haven, Connecticut (CT) · Member since 2008 · 35 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    Im currently looking at kansas city but feel i have a pretty big learning curve concerning the neighborhoods, suburbs and what are the best (and safest ) spots to invest. 

    The city reminds me of a local city here in CT (New Haven) where you can transition from a great neighborhood with multi-million dollar properties to a war zone within just a few blocks and back again.

  • Surveyor · Hemet, CA · Member since 2015 · 797 posts · 112 votes
    9y

    @Chris Nordella what's up how was your property doing have you been doing any upgrades raising any rents?  I'm going to see if we can maybe get into if you single families in multiple families into san Diego county.

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