Should I make my tenants get rental insurance?

Should I make my tenants get rental insurance?

Bryce JamisonPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Mebane, NC · Member since 2015 · 493 posts · 439 votes

I've seen a lot of people recommending mandating tenants get rental insurance, but I don't understand why. I'll have insurance on the home to protect myself, but why is it my business if they insure their own property or not? I'd like to highly encourage they get it, but should I make it a requirement?

Thank you all so much for your time!!!

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JD MartinBusiness Member
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Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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Yes, you should require it. Who cares if the tenant's stuff gets burned up in a fire or other act of God? The reason you want them to have renter's insurance (with you listed as additional interest and/or additional insured) is because you want to have someplace to go outside of your own insurance if they do serious damage in excess of what the deposit covers. We've had two tenants so far, ever, that had damages that exceeded the deposit and it was back when we left that insurance as optional so we had to eat the excess damages. Once we started requiring insurance, if someone trashes the unit we just file a claim on their insurance or our insurance - it doesn't matter, as our insurance will abrogate against their insurance - and presto! Damages covered beyond the deposit. 

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  • Real Estate Coach · Boise, ID · Member since 2022 · 177 posts · 285 votes
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    I put it in everyone of my leases to provide a copy of a current policy. I’ve never had a drop in demand for my rentals over that.

  • Attorney · Durham, NH · Member since 2019 · 292 posts · 126 votes
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    Some homeowners insurers ask--considered as part of an overall environment of de-risking and responsibility. It could favorably affect your rate.

    Car-loaning banks want borrowers to be insured so they can afford to make their payments. A landlord who checks pay stubs, references, credit score might endeavor to de-risk rent payment.

  • Real Estate Coach · Boise, ID · Member since 2022 · 177 posts · 285 votes
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    Quote from @Matthew McKee:

    I put it in everyone of my leases to provide a copy of a current policy. I’ve never had a drop in demand for my rentals over that.


     And to your point about what business it is of yours… you should be viewing your investment property as a business.

  • Bryce JamisonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Mebane, NC · Member since 2015 · 493 posts · 439 votes
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    Quote from @Alex Talcott:

    Some homeowners insurers ask--considered as part of an overall environment of de-risking and responsibility. It could favorably affect your rate.

    Car-loaning banks want borrowers to be insured so they can afford to make their payments. A landlord who checks pay stubs, references, credit score might endeavor to de-risk rent payment.

     @Alex Talcott Thanks Alex! So a lower homeowner insurance rate on my end is the big reason to mandate it? Are there any other benefits to requiring it? I guess that's my real question.

  • Rental Property Investor · Douglas County, MO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Yes. One reason is to prevent rate increases due to claims.

    Suppose the tenant has a grease fire in the kitchen. The primary claim is against their policy, not yours, so the claim won't make your rates go up. Now if the fire is due to faulty wiring, that would be on you.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Seattle, WA · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 784 votes
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    @Bryce Jamison - do you own your home and do you have insurance for your personal belongings as part of your homeowners insurance? When there is a flood and all of their furniture and clothes get damaged, who are they going to look to for reimbursement? You can say a hard no and them they’ll have to make a decision - replace damaged furniture and belongings out of pocket and skip a month of rent or pay rent and eat on the floor? Guess which will cause you less headaches? Renter’s policy is $500/yr. If your concern is that they won’t be able to afford it, you need better tenants. Outside of that, there is a million reasons people buy insurance and business owners, such as yourself, require their customers to carry insurance. Many don’t believe in insurance. I take it that is not your philosophy since you are buying insurance on the property you own

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 1 post · 1 vote
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    It probably varies state by state but here in Texas renters policies cover $100,000 minimum of property damage. This is not for the personal belongings of the tenant, It is for damage to real property. Even apartment complexes here in Austin Texas require for rental insurance policies as part of their lease agreement.

  • Jordan MoorheadBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Austin, TX · Member since 2015 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    I make mine get it and they can buy it through the rental management software I use for like $15 a month

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Bryce Jamison yes

  • Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 21 votes
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    @Bryce Jamison ABSOLUTELY. Should something happen at the property that makes it inhabitable during repair you will be held responsible for housing tenant in a comparable area to accommodate all household members . Atleast this is the case in California. Whereas if they have renters insurance, their insurance will relocated them, pay a per diem for food and cover any loss of personal items as a result of the damages incurred due to mold, pipe bursting etc. Their insurance will cover pack-out and pack-in moving services which will remove all their personal belongings and place them in a storage unit.

    I highly recommend as it not only protects you. But also let the tenant know it protects them and their personal belongings. Huge benefit for the tenant.

  • Rental Property Investor · Douglas County, MO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    We require our tenants to have renter's insurance. If they do not already have a policy, (which many do) we pay for a minimal policy for them. They must apply, but we pay the bill. It has $5000 coverage for their belongings plus $100,000 liability. It costs us $40-75 per year. They are welcome to buy their own policy at any level of coverage they want, of course.

  • JD MartinBusiness Member
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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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    Yes, you should require it. Who cares if the tenant's stuff gets burned up in a fire or other act of God? The reason you want them to have renter's insurance (with you listed as additional interest and/or additional insured) is because you want to have someplace to go outside of your own insurance if they do serious damage in excess of what the deposit covers. We've had two tenants so far, ever, that had damages that exceeded the deposit and it was back when we left that insurance as optional so we had to eat the excess damages. Once we started requiring insurance, if someone trashes the unit we just file a claim on their insurance or our insurance - it doesn't matter, as our insurance will abrogate against their insurance - and presto! Damages covered beyond the deposit. 

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  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
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    Helps with relocation expenses  Reduced risk of a lawsuit  Allows you to be pet friendly  Lowers the chance of an increase in insurance premiums 
  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2019 · 29 posts · 22 votes
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    @Bryce Jamison yes, because it saves you money.  Over time you'll have a tenant's actions damage your unit beyond what they can afford or are willing to pay.  When that happens, insurance pays, not you. 

    Without insurance, their unexpected problem suddenly becomes your problem and starts costing you money.  Why?  Tenants usually don't plan or have the money for future unexpected large costs.  When something like that happens, they'll typically turn to you for payment.  Doesn't matter that it wasn't your fault.  If you don't help, usually they'll just stop paying rent or break the lease and move out.  Or sometimes get an attorney to try holding you responsible.  Yes, you have a lease with clauses you can enforce to hold them accountable and limit or indemnify your liability.  In reality you're almost never going to recover that lost money. 

    Again, may not be your fault but meantime you're spending money.  If there's no insurance, you end up working the numbers and usually see it's cheaper to absorb some or all of that cost rather than turn the unit over and rent it again.

    Avoiding increased premiums is smart business too.

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
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    Quote from @Bryce Jamison:

    I've seen a lot of people recommending mandating tenants get rental insurance, but I don't understand why. I'll have insurance on the home to protect myself, but why is it my business if they insure their own property or not? I'd like to highly encourage they get it, but should I make it a requirement?

    Thank you all so much for your time!!!


    Renter insurance includes two pieces: liability and personal property.

    The liability insurance will cover your property if the tenant causes the damage. For example, one of my tenants started a kitchen fire that cost $12,000 to renovate. It was paid by the Tenant's insurance and they paid the deductible, not me. This article explains it in more depth: https://www.mysmartmove.com/Sm...

    You should require your tenant to add you to the insurance policy as "additional insured" so you are covered under their policy. You will also be notified if they ever cancel their insurance or allow it to lapse, making it easy to track compliance.

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  • Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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    @Bryce Jamison

    I would definitely require all tenants to have renters insurance.  If for nothing more than a better piece of mind should anything ever happen at your rental.   

  • Attorney · Durham, NH · Member since 2019 · 292 posts · 126 votes
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    Quote from @Bryce Jamison:
    Quote from @Alex Talcott:

    Some homeowners insurers ask--considered as part of an overall environment of de-risking and responsibility. It could favorably affect your rate.

    Car-loaning banks want borrowers to be insured so they can afford to make their payments. A landlord who checks pay stubs, references, credit score might endeavor to de-risk rent payment.

     @Alex Talcott Thanks Alex! So a lower homeowner insurance rate on my end is the big reason to mandate it? Are there any other benefits to requiring it? I guess that's my real question.


     I'd say the latter point is the bigger benefit -- de-risking rent default, setting a tone of a self-responsibility.

  • Kyle MccawBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Keller, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Bryce Jamison Some issues that arise are too small to justify claiming on your landlord policy. 
    You also don't have to deal with deductible or co-insurance if your tenant's insurance pay for a small kitchen fire. Co-insurance will play a more important role with your investments the larger portfolio you get. 

    I think it important to mention that there is a difference between renters insurance and tenant liability insurance.
    The main difference between renters insurance and tenant liability insurance is, renter's insurance will cover the tenant's personal property in case of a disaster. Tenant liability insurance will cover damages done to the landlords property that was directly caused by the tenants. From all that I have seem renter's insurance will include tenant liability insurance but not the other way around.

    My insurance guru @Cameron Moore may be able to speak more about this.

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  • Cameron MoorePro Member
    Insurance Agent · DFW, TX · Member since 2021 · 348 posts · 245 votes
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    Well, one reason it can be useful is in the event of a non-resident being injured on the property due to negligence by the tenant. If they have a renters policy that includes liability then the plaintiff will go after the tenants liability money. However, they could turn that on your liability if their doesnt exist blaming the property itself (maybe they got hurt by a hole in the yard, or a broken fence). Not to mention that your policy does not cover their personal property, so in the event of a fire due to bad wiring their renters policy covers their items and not you out of pocket. 

  • Kyle MccawBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Keller, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Bryce Jamison - another crazy scenario...We just had a suicide in a rental. Tenant insurance pays the $25k for the biohazard. I don't believe the landlord policy would pay that invoice. 

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