Gary, Indiana. Yes, I’m Serious.

Michael Eskenasy

Investor · Pacific Northwest · Member since 2026 · 511 posts · 286 votes

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I’d be careful with the “Gary is the next Detroit/Cleveland” thesis. The macro story may be improving, but industrial investment and infrastructure spending do not automatically translate into residential value at the property level.

Gary is the kind of market where I’d underwrite block by block, not citywide.

What I’d want to know before buying:

actual collections, not advertised rent
vacancy and turnover on that specific submarket
property-tax trajectory after purchase
insurance cost and insurability
condition of sewer, roof, foundation, electrical, and plumbing
municipal inspection/code issues
title/liens on distressed inventory
quality and cost of local property management
tenant demand that exists independently of one employer or redevelopment project
realistic resale liquidity if the original plan fails

I also would not give much value to a possible Bears stadium until dirt is moving and the economic impact is clear. Same with job announcements: 225 jobs can be meaningful locally, but it is not enough by itself to support a broad housing thesis.

The opportunity in Gary may be real precisely because prices are low and the market is inefficient. But that also means the spread between a good block and a bad one can be enormous.

I’d buy there only if the property works today under conservative rents and expenses, and treat revitalization as upside rather than the reason the deal works.

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Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member

CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes

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Camden, what I like about a market like this is that it forces investors to look beyond the headline purchase price and ask whether the actual operating economics support the story.

For an out-of-state investor, I'd underwrite the property with full management, realistic vacancy, repairs, CapEx, insurance, property taxes, leasing costs, and a reserve for older housing stock. A market can look attractive on rent-to-price alone, but the real test is whether those returns still hold up after the local operating friction is included.

From the tax side, I’d also look at the after-tax return. Once the property is placed in service, depreciation becomes part of the economics, and cost segregation may be worth evaluating depending on the property and the investor’s tax situation. If the investor already has passive income elsewhere, that can make the depreciation even more useful.

For anyone buying remotely, I'd also make sure the management and bookkeeping are property-specific from day one. Clean records around repairs, improvements, travel, management, and CapEx become much more important when you're not physically close to the asset.

I’d want the deal to work because of the property’s cash flow and basis, then treat any future appreciation or local growth as upside.

Feel free to DM me, I’d be happy to send over a few resources that might be helpful.

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Diana Khan

Attorney · 10451 Mill Run Cir #755 Owings Mills, MD 21117 · Member since 2024 · 300 posts · 112 votes

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Quote from @Camden Lowrance:

I think this is a market that's going under the radar right now. Here are sourced facts on why you should take a closer look:

- Gary’s quality-adjusted asking rents were approximately $1,374 in July 2026, up 6.4% year over year. Two-bedroom rents average roughly $1,100 in Gary versus $2,000 in Chicago. Zillow · Chicago · Gary

- U.S. Steel completed the $350 million Gary Works blast furnace reline and plans to restart the Gary Tin Mill, creating approximately 225 jobs. Reline · Tin Mill

- Gary is adding logistics and aviation capacity through a $60 million FedEx center, a $12 million airport hangar, and other airport improvements. FedEx · Airport

- The Bears are focused on potential stadium development in nearby Hammond. Chicago Bears

Gary is following in the footsteps of other successful urban revitalizations like Detroit and Cleveland, and bolstered by serious long-term industry commitments.

Have any out of state investors taken a closer look at Gary? How does it compare to where you normally invest?

@Camden Lowrance, I like that you came into this with actual numbers and sources instead of just saying, “Gary is cheap, so it must be a good market.” That already tells me you are looking at it the right way.

From working with investors and looking at deals from both the legal and real estate side, one thing I’ve learned is that low cost markets can tempt people to buy too fast. I would want the local team in place before I tried to scale there. A good property manager, contractor, title company, insurance contact, and local attorney can make a huge difference when you are investing from another state. I’ve seen deals where the purchase price looked great, but the real problem was everything that happened after closing because the investor did not have the right people on the ground.

I’d also want to see whether the market still works if the big development story takes longer than expected. If the property works today and the growth story becomes extra upside, that is a much stronger position. I sent you a connection request as well. I’d be glad to stay connected and keep up with what you’re seeing in Gary.

Crystal SmithPro Member

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Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes

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Quote from @Camden Lowrance:

I think this is a market that's going under the radar right now. Here are sourced facts on why you should take a closer look:

- Gary’s quality-adjusted asking rents were approximately $1,374 in July 2026, up 6.4% year over year. Two-bedroom rents average roughly $1,100 in Gary versus $2,000 in Chicago. Zillow · Chicago · Gary

- U.S. Steel completed the $350 million Gary Works blast furnace reline and plans to restart the Gary Tin Mill, creating approximately 225 jobs. Reline · Tin Mill

- Gary is adding logistics and aviation capacity through a $60 million FedEx center, a $12 million airport hangar, and other airport improvements. FedEx · Airport

- The Bears are focused on potential stadium development in nearby Hammond. Chicago Bears

Gary is following in the footsteps of other successful urban revitalizations like Detroit and Cleveland, and bolstered by serious long-term industry commitments.

Have any out of state investors taken a closer look at Gary? How does it compare to where you normally invest?

We looked at Gary indiana in the past and always passed. There was too much blight.

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Camden Lowrance
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Investor · IN · Member since 2019 · 35 posts · 24 votes
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@Crystal Smith I see you're in Chicago, do you invest in Indiana? I think Chicago is a much more dangerous market than NWI for out of state landlords because of the extremely anti-landlord laws and attitudes. I've heard too many eviction horror stories to jump in. Plus the cash flow isn't any better than in Gary, and you're going to get squeezed by the state every year with taxes. In fact, almost all of my tenants in Gary are from Chicago fleeing the high prices.
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Crystal SmithPro Member
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Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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Quote from @Camden Lowrance:
@Crystal Smith I see you're in Chicago, do you invest in Indiana? I think Chicago is a much more dangerous market than NWI for out of state landlords because of the extremely anti-landlord laws and attitudes. I've heard too many eviction horror stories to jump in. Plus the cash flow isn't any better than in Gary, and you're going to get squeezed by the state every year with taxes. In fact, almost all of my tenants in Gary are from Chicago fleeing the high prices.
@Camden Lowrance my partner & I purchased 30 properties in Chicago while I lived in Atlanta; i.e I was an out of state investor and then I moved back to Chicago as our base of operations. We also purchased properties in other cities while being out of state investors. We have specific metrics for our business and NWI has never met our metrics. We revisit the Indiana market at lease once per year and the only part of Indiana that's of interest to us as investors is Hamilton County- specifically Carmel.
I am happy to hear that NWI satisfies your business plan.
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Henry Lazerow

Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes

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Same as Rockford IL once the foreclosure capital of USA was the #1 real estate market by many metrics last year. I just sold a building there that we did 2 almost 3 evictions on during just 3 years of ownership and during that time the value almost doubled. Has the crime dropped significantly or employment gone up significantly, the answer is no. The cheapest areas are just pumping right now as investors are so desperate for yield. I predict these areas fall the hardest when we eventually have a pullback.

Jonathan KlemmBusiness Member

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Contractor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes

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Hey There @Camden Lowrance - I don't think you are wrong by any means, because Gary is clearly gentrifying for many of the reasons you pointed out. But I think if you are going to invest in Gary, you really need to understand the area and demographics. You are out of Chicago and landlord laws are much more friendly as well.

I think the people who go all in on one specific area, say Northwest Indiana, do really well...but don't go there just because things are less expensive, but rather because you have built a solid team that knows the area really well.

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Sean McKee

Rental Property Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 265 posts · 186 votes

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Quote from @Camden Lowrance:

I think this is a market that's going under the radar right now. Here are sourced facts on why you should take a closer look:

- Gary’s quality-adjusted asking rents were approximately $1,374 in July 2026, up 6.4% year over year. Two-bedroom rents average roughly $1,100 in Gary versus $2,000 in Chicago. Zillow · Chicago · Gary

- U.S. Steel completed the $350 million Gary Works blast furnace reline and plans to restart the Gary Tin Mill, creating approximately 225 jobs. Reline · Tin Mill

- Gary is adding logistics and aviation capacity through a $60 million FedEx center, a $12 million airport hangar, and other airport improvements. FedEx · Airport

- The Bears are focused on potential stadium development in nearby Hammond. Chicago Bears

Gary is following in the footsteps of other successful urban revitalizations like Detroit and Cleveland, and bolstered by serious long-term industry commitments.

Have any out of state investors taken a closer look at Gary? How does it compare to where you normally invest?

Very interesting insight. I would have never considered Gary. I'm very interested in NWI, but admittedly avoided it due to the reputation.

How do you think it compares to Hammond? That's been a big target area for me, I have not found anything there yet . Hammond seems pretty competitive right now, so it would be interesting to see if Gary has more opportunity.

Camden Lowrance

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Investor · IN · Member since 2019 · 35 posts · 24 votes

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@Sean McKee I agree that Hammond is pretty competitive for investors. Tenants don't seem to really have much of a preference on Hammond vs Gary anyway.

I have properties from South Bend to East Chicago but we are only investing in Gary going forward. The ARVs are there now for BRRRs to work, and we still cash flow easily even at these rates.

We are also very well connected in Gary. One thing that surprises people when they are coming from a major city like Chicago is how fractured and archaic the municipalities are. I know investors who wait months just for a water line from the city in Gary for instance. Each town has their own permitting system, they are pretty territorial and not friendly to outside contractors as well. Hammond I've heard can be particularly difficult to deal with the building department.

Jennie Berger

Lender · Chicago IL · Member since 2020 · 357 posts · 227 votes

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@Camden Lowrance appreciate your insight here. Living / Investing / Developing / Lending in Chicago since 2019 - this is a market I know VERY well. I hear various things about Gary and NWI in general, both good and bad. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

Aristotle Kumpis

Specialist · Long Beach, CA · Member since 2011 · 873 posts · 393 votes

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Have you been there and drove around the neighborhoods yourself?