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Looking to connect with seasoned out of state multifamily investors

Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes

Hi Guys,

I have a property out in Ohio and am looking to expand my portfolio. Im curious to hear from successful seasoned multifamily real estate investors what processes have made the successful.

Some areas I want to gain more knowledge in is:

-Network used to finding good tenants and fill units quickly

-Do you self manage or use a property management company

-Do you interact with tenants and have visibility into communications or let boots on the ground person deal with all of that

-How do you find good agents and contractors in your investment market

-Who do you have walk through property for inspections and let contractors in the units for bids?

I want to grow a big portfolio and am trying to nail down my processes and gain more insight and knowledge.

Thanks!

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Jimmy LieuBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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Welcome, Nicholas. Good to see another investor with an Ohio property looking to systemize before adding doors.

Matthew and James covered the PM-first approach well, so here is how to vet one. Interview three and ask each for average days vacant, tenant turnover rate, maintenance markup and spending approval limit, and a sample owner statement. Then compare their reviews with what current owners tell you. For tenants, hand your PM written screening criteria (income multiple, rental history, background) so they apply your standard instead of just filling units. For inspections, ask for dated photo reports at turns and annually, which gives you visibility without being the day-to-day contact.

On Ohio specifically, in my experience an uncontested eviction can wrap in about 30 days, which is one more reason consistent screening and quick action pay off. Which part of Ohio is your property in?

If it's useful, connect with me and we can trade notes as you build out your process.

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  • Matthew MorrowBusiness Member
    Investor · PA - NY - NJ · Member since 2019 · 756 posts · 258 votes
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    @Nicholas Andreatos For out-of-state multifamily, a strong local PM handles the day-to-day with tenants, but you still want visibility, like regular reporting and the ability to step in when something's off. You can do some wonderful things with AI and software for tracking all of it now, but it's not perfect, and you're never 100% out of the mix. The best agents and contractors usually come from other investors already in that market, not cold searches. How many doors are you at in Ohio now?

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    • Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
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      Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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      Hi Matthew,

      Thank you for your response! I totally hear you on that, and agree that retaining control and having visibility is key to being a successful investor. That is what I am trying to nail down. I currently have 2 doors and ready to deploy to get 4-5 more doors, so I want to make sure I do it correctly as I scale and look to deploy BRR and LTR strategies.

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  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 842 posts · 604 votes
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    I'm a Memphis investor with 236 doors, and your process list is the right thing to nail down early. I use a property manager — at scale nothing else works. The PM is the one who walks properties, lets contractors in for bids, and handles all tenant communication. I don't self-manage and I don't interact with tenants directly; the PM owns that relationship. Finding agents and contractors: the PM's referrals are worth more than anything online, because they know who actually shows up and bills fairly. Yes, you pay for the oversight — good management costs money, but a bad manager costs more. If you want to grow a big portfolio, build the team first and the doors follow.

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    • Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
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      Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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      Hi James,

      Thank you for your response! Do you get to own the processes and systems of day to day operations or do you log into PM's portal and have visibility into everything? Also, what has made you successful when looking for good PM companies to invest with? I have heard horror stories of slow responses from PM to tenants, bad management, and slow tenant turnover/filling vacant units so I am slightly hesistant.

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  • Jimmy LieuBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    Welcome, Nicholas. Good to see another investor with an Ohio property looking to systemize before adding doors.

    Matthew and James covered the PM-first approach well, so here is how to vet one. Interview three and ask each for average days vacant, tenant turnover rate, maintenance markup and spending approval limit, and a sample owner statement. Then compare their reviews with what current owners tell you. For tenants, hand your PM written screening criteria (income multiple, rental history, background) so they apply your standard instead of just filling units. For inspections, ask for dated photo reports at turns and annually, which gives you visibility without being the day-to-day contact.

    On Ohio specifically, in my experience an uncontested eviction can wrap in about 30 days, which is one more reason consistent screening and quick action pay off. Which part of Ohio is your property in?

    If it's useful, connect with me and we can trade notes as you build out your process.

    [email protected]614-300-7535
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    • Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
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      Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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      Hi Jimmy,

      Thank you for your response! I appreciate your insight into what to look for in a Property Management company when screening them. The problem imo with having a PM is you don't get to own the process and have to use the PMs process. I want a relationship where I call the shots on operations and systems and retain the visibility into maintenance request and pictures etc, but don't have to take emergency calls or texts from tenants. I have heard from other investors that self managed is the way to go to retain control. I currently have a self managed approach, without having to deal with day to day tenant calls/inquires. I am just trying to refine my process to learn more angles and what works best for other investor scaling from two doors to 15 to 30+.

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  • Remington LymanBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    Quote from @Nicholas Andreatos:

    Hi Guys,

    I have a property out in Ohio and am looking to expand my portfolio. Im curious to hear from successful seasoned multifamily real estate investors what processes have made the successful.

    Some areas I want to gain more knowledge in is:

    -Network used to finding good tenants and fill units quickly

    -Do you self manage or use a property management company

    -Do you interact with tenants and have visibility into communications or let boots on the ground person deal with all of that

    -How do you find good agents and contractors in your investment market

    -Who do you have walk through property for inspections and let contractors in the units for bids?

    I want to grow a big portfolio and am trying to nail down my processes and gain more insight and knowledge.

    Thanks!

    I have a portfolio of ~100 units. I manage all of my long-term rentals and have a property manager manage my STR/LTR

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  • Saif Ibrahim
    Investor · Dubai, Dubai · Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 4 votes
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    Hi Nicholas! Lets connect!

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    • Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
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      Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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      Hi Saif,

      I just sent a connect request. Look forward to connecting!

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  • Matthew MorrowBusiness Member
    Investor · PA - NY - NJ · Member since 2019 · 756 posts · 258 votes
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    @Nicholas Andreatos That's a great spot to be in. In our experience, 1 to 10 doors is a pretty straightforward system. Above that, you're dealing with a different animal, and it changes again around 30+. By then you need a solid team around you: contractors, agents, property management, and a back end with a CPA and legal. Building that team early, before you're scrambling, makes the next 4–5 doors a lot smoother. Have you narrowed down which markets you're looking at?

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    • Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
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      Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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      Hi Matt,

      Thank you for your insight. I am getting my next property in Dayton OH and shooting for a 5-10 unit. I eventually want to deploy a PM company but I want to be hands on in the process before hand so when I do transition I know what a great one should be like and have the network and resources to continue to scale.

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  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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    Based on your responses to those posting their responses, you want to maintain control of EVERYTHING.

    What you appear to need is to hire someone to work directly for you.

    You are welcome to do that, but it rarely scales.

    Also, some questions:

    How will you afford anyone with a decent skillset with only 2 current properties?

    How are you going to train someone if you don't really know what you are doing?

    You state you want to use your systems, NOT the systems of a PMC, but what makes your systems better?
    - Note: I've been doing this for 20+ years, still learn something new everyday, but pretty confident I know way MORE than you about managing rentals. So, why would I do it your way?

    Feel free to DM me if you'd like to schedule a chat to explore all this more🤪

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    • Nicholas AndreatosPro Member
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      Centreville, Fairfax County · Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 4 votes
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      Hi Drew,

      I agree with what you’re saying and do have a lot less experience but that is what i am trying to build. My experience, my network, and my team of resources. I think I can manage it with a good team of contractors and agents until I hit 15-20 units then I need a PM.

      Thank you for the offer and happy to connect if you do work in Dayton, OH

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  • Arman AhmedPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2024 · 2k+ posts · 961 votes
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    Quote from @Nicholas Andreatos:

    Hi Guys,

    I have a property out in Ohio and am looking to expand my portfolio. Im curious to hear from successful seasoned multifamily real estate investors what processes have made the successful.

    Some areas I want to gain more knowledge in is:

    -Network used to finding good tenants and fill units quickly

    -Do you self manage or use a property management company

    -Do you interact with tenants and have visibility into communications or let boots on the ground person deal with all of that

    -How do you find good agents and contractors in your investment market

    -Who do you have walk through property for inspections and let contractors in the units for bids?

    I want to grow a big portfolio and am trying to nail down my processes and gain more insight and knowledge.

    Thanks!

    Nicholas, having reliable people on the ground is key when scaling out of state. I’d build a solid team of property managers, contractors, and investor-friendly agents who can handle tenant issues, turnovers, inspections, and repairs without you having to oversee every little thing. Happy to connect!

    [email protected]614-418-6081
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  • Alfath AhmedBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Nicholas Andreatos I personally own 30+ units and have found that having a good PM and reliable contractors makes all the difference when scaling.

    I let my PM handle leasing, tenant communication, and day-to-day issues, but I stay involved with major repairs, turnovers, and expenses. For vacancies, professional photos, competitive rents, and move-in incentives have helped me lease units quicker.

    For contractors, I usually have my agent or PM coordinate walkthroughs, get multiple bids, and send pictures/videos before approving work. I would focus on building a solid team and systems before aggressively adding more units.

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