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BP, you destroyed the forums (again)!

Greg ScottPro Member

Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes

My Forum feed is now filled with a bunch of blog posts. Please get them out of there.

You tried this a couple of years ago and everyone hated this idea. (We still do!)

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Bruce WoodruffPro Member

Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes

I cannot understand why the Tech people keep changing things that work just fine. Literally every change makes the Forums worse. Put it back to the way it was 5 yrs ago and leave it alone....

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Jaron WallingPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Ohhh no! It's worse than last time and on top of that it's older blogs and click-bait for the podcast. I have notifications from stuff that's 4 years old!
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Aaron BreckenridgePro Member
Technology · Dallas, TX · Member since 2022 · 478 posts · 304 votes
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Bear with us as we have to continue to make substantial changes to the forums. Hopefully on a whole they'll be beneficial, but yea I understand this one could've been better. I'm trying to make these changes in as least disruptive way as possible with tight deadlines. Thank you for the feedback, I read all of these posts.
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- James Wise
  Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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  Posting videos in the Classifieds also no longer works. Used to be able to post a YouTube link and you'd get the video link preview...Now the only option is for you to post the literal video URL.
  Additionally, posting a photo and then linking that photo also doesn't work anymore.
  These changes are a no gooder.
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- Aaron BreckenridgePro Member
  Technology · Dallas, TX · Member since 2022 · 478 posts · 304 votes
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  @James Wise the fix for YouTube embeds is rolling out now.
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- Aaron BreckenridgePro Member
  Technology · Dallas, TX · Member since 2022 · 478 posts · 304 votes
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  @James Wise ah thanks for the report.
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- Henry ClarkPro Member
  Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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  I believe in Dollarization of BP. Versus a buckshot, I would use a rifle approach. Use AI. Whenever a user posts then have a BP “response and link to a podcast, book, product sponsored by BP.
  If I post help, who has done Self Storage. BP would do a response saying buy this book. Or link to a podcast.
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- James Wise
  Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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Jamie Parker
Real Estate Investor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2016 · 417 posts · 139 votes
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@Greg Scott
Could you screen shot the what you are seeing. That makes the correction process easier. I had some issues that I presented with Screenshots so the devs can see exactly what the changes are creating.
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- Greg ScottPro Member
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  Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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  @Jamie Parker
  
  @Jamie Parker @Jamie Parker
  
  Here is what I see in my preferred way to view the forums, NOW. All the red arrows are blog posts, many of them from years ago. None have humans asking questions. For that reason, they should not be in the forums.
  
  BP's institutional knowledge seems to be limited. They did this exact same thing a couple years ago and we all revolted.
  
  They can search for a response that Scott Trench (former CEO) made on one of my forum posts complaining about this exact same thing. He admitted that BP screwed up. Suddenly BP reversed direction.
  
  Now BP has a new CEO that may need to re-learn the old lessons.
  
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- Greg ScottPro Member
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  Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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  I tried to copy Aaron Breckenridge on this post.
  The system showed his name, but then decided to change it to @Jamie Parker
  He is a ghost, apparently, but could benefit from feedback
  Aaron: Look at the people on this thread complaining. They are all the people that come to the forums daily. They have thousands of posts.
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- Patrick Krawczykowski
  Member since 2026 · 2 posts · 1 vote
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  @Aaron Breckenridge
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- Patrick Krawczykowski
  Member since 2026 · 2 posts · 1 vote
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  Tagging Aaron works for me. Possibly need to be connected to tag someone? I’ll look into it.
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Bruce WoodruffPro Member
Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
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I cannot understand why the Tech people keep changing things that work just fine. Literally every change makes the Forums worse. Put it back to the way it was 5 yrs ago and leave it alone....
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Richard F.
Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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Apparently BP has been taken over by the same vibe coders that infest the forum. They don't understand the first thing about the "problem" they are providing the tool, or "fix" for. Apparently they aren't even "curious" enough to ask what would be useful or not, and they rarely respond to direct questions.
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- Aaron BreckenridgePro Member
  Technology · Dallas, TX · Member since 2022 · 478 posts · 304 votes
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  Hard disagree
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- Patrick KrawczykowskiPro Member
  Investor · Chicago IL · Member since 2026 · 30 posts · 32 votes
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  I don't have much of a response for the vibe coded comment. It's so nuanced that it seems silly to debate in 200 character replies.
  
  I do wonder, what would be useful for you Richard? If you think it's too involved to write into a reply feel free to DM me and I'm happy to line up some time to connect over google meet.
  
  I encourage my entire team to be as active as possible on the forums which I think we're getting better at but, given most of the team is months into this work, is pretty decent. You might not see all the user feedback we elicit but out product and engineering team hosts user interviews pretty consistently. We used BPCON in general as one giant user research tool.
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- Richard F.
  Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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  I replied directly to Aaron's post. He can share my comments with you.
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- James Wise
  Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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  Patrick, you work at BP? Your response sounds like you do, but your profile doesn't mention anything of the sort. I would think explaining your role at BP on your profile would be something you do on day 1.
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- Patrick KrawczykowskiPro Member
  Investor · Chicago IL · Member since 2026 · 30 posts · 32 votes
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  @James Wise I mean I have called out that I’ve worked here since literally day one and my first post with this account.
  I find myself much more of a lurker and voter on the forums these past couple months.
  It’s nice to make your acquaintance though. I’m always open to feedback if you have any.
  For posterity, I joined biggerpockets recently as the head of product. My team is built with people that work very hard to understand where we’re failing users, and then coming up with the best solution to those issues.
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Bill B.
Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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1) There does seem to be an abundance of posts referencing other posts by other people from long ago.

2) Is this the reason I’m also being flooded with notifications of keywords on 5 year old posts?

These top 4 “saved searches” said new posts today until I marked them as read And in fact still have a blue dot next to the bell saying thy are new even though they say they aren’t. So another smaller error making me click there to see new messages it says I don’t have.

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Caleb Brown
Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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Yeah, agreed. I like them being separate since it's completely different than forum posts
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V.G JasonPro Member
Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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Is there a way to revert back to the old forum format/layout? At least an option too. This one is trash.
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Greg ScottPro Member
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Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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@ Aaron Breckenridge
Please notice than zero of the 50 or so blog posts that were jammed into the forums are on the trending list. In other words, nobody in the forums is reading them. We won't read them there!
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Patrick KrawczykowskiPro Member
Investor · Chicago IL · Member since 2026 · 30 posts · 32 votes
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In general there is a ton of great feedback in this thread. I appreciate everyone chiming in.
It was pretty clear to us by mid afternoon that there was an unforeseen bug in how we launched these addition posts (queued jobs were backed up and should not have been fired in the way they were). I don’t think you would notice the new content in a normal rollout
It’s also another reason we wanted to implement downvoting on content, which is especially important to the feed, to shape exactly the content you want to see regardless of what’s out there.
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Henry ClarkPro Member
Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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BP. In a PE world it is about value creation and market increase. I'll reiterate my suggestion above, plus some.
A. When a post comes on, recommend BP delays 24 hours to respond to give posters a chance to respond. Then do automated AI posts to that post. See these posts. Recommend you buy this book. Here are some Podcast links. Here are some vendors.
The absolute hardest thing about BP is finding something using the BP tools. Don't have the poster look, direct them to your Revenue sources.
B. The forum part of BP is the cheap turkey at the supermarket for Thanksgiving. To get people in and then sale more. You will never make money off of the Forum itself directly. Yes, you can have some Advertisements pop up, but that only goes so far before people get irritated. I was getting pissed with the Chicago vendor ads, I'm small town Iowa. The Forum is about Churn for New Investors say 90%. Then after that it is a source of interaction for experienced REI. Develop New REI investor streams, with books, podcasts, vendors, mentors, etc along that stream. For value creation, you can't rely based on Churn. You also need to increase retention and product exposure.
C. BPCON is great but to limited. To Broad. To Inspirational. Keep the National one the Same.
But regionalize. Also do REI strategy specific 1 day events. Make the Pyramid bigger and more Accessible.
Generate more revenue source and value, by increasing market width and engagement.
D. Let revenue streams and exposure guide your Programming decisions. Although, again, I want to thank you for adding View count. Helps me understand which posts or at least titles are more or less engaging.
As an Ex-Process Improvement leader- keep improving or die.
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Bill B.
Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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At lest “saved searches” just crashes with an error 500 for the last 24 hours, so that problem’s solved. :-)
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- Aaron BreckenridgePro Member
  Technology · Dallas, TX · Member since 2022 · 478 posts · 304 votes
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  Thanks for the report @Bill B. we'll look into it.
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Ed O.
Investor · Statewide, MO · Member since 2011 · 817 posts · 425 votes
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I remember when people used to come here to help others find solutions.
Now it's 99% shameless or stealth self promotion
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