Sometimes the “more expensive” loan lets you buy with less cash

Sometimes the “more expensive” loan lets you buy with less cash

Sean DavoodianBusiness Member
Lender · Glendale, CA · Member since 2025 · 18 posts · 7 votes

Conventional is hard to beat when the file fits.

Good rate.

Good terms.

Usually no prepay.

I’m not going Non-QM just for the sake of going Non-QM.

But this is where I think investors need to stop looking at rate only.

Take a 2-4 unit investment property.

Conventional financing is generally going to cap you around 75% LTV on the purchase.

Meaning:

25% down.

On a $500K property, that’s $125,000 just for the down payment.

Now compare that to certain Non-QM/DSCR programs that can go as high as 85% LTV on a purchase.

That’s:

15% down

$75,000 instead of $125,000.

You just kept $50,000 in your bank account.

And these DSCR programs can do that without monthly mortgage insurance.

Yes, the rate is probably going to be higher.

Yes, pricing at 85% LTV is usually worse than pricing at 75%.

There may also be a prepayment penalty depending on the program.

But now the real question becomes

Would you rather save .50%-.75% on the rate...

Or keep another $50K available for the next purchase?

That’s where I think investors need to look at financing differently than someone buying one house and staying there forever.

If putting 25% down gets you the prettier loan but eats up all your buying power, I’m not automatically convinced it’s the better deal.

Especially if 15% down lets you buy another property six months later.

There’s no trophy for having the lowest rate.

The question is what structure helps you build the portfolio you actually want.

Would you take the higher rate to keep another $50K liquid?

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James JonesPro Member
Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 748 posts · 552 votes
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I stay in the 70 to 80% LTV range on DSCR, about 30-year amortization, and I plan to leave cash in most deals. That is normal in my box: buy under $100K, rehab to ARV $180K to $265K, rent 3BR+ at $1,395 to $1,950. At those numbers the rent has to clear the 1% rule and cover the payment with room. Stretching to 85% to keep cash only works if the next deal is already real and the first deal still cash flows at the higher payment. Otherwise you kept liquidity and bought a thinner deal. Rate matters, but coverage matters more. Deal flow is my bottleneck, not access to the last 5% of leverage.

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  • Mike GrudzienPro Member
    Lender · Eugene, OR · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Makes sense.

  • Matthew MorrowBusiness Member
    Investor · PA - NY - NJ · Member since 2019 · 528 posts · 185 votes
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    @Sean Davoodian Good point, and one that gets overlooked. We just had this exact conversation with a first-time investor getting ready to house hack. It's not always about the rate. Sometimes it's about preserving cash. You can't always be picky in certain parts of the market, but putting less down and paying a higher rate keeps you capitalized to scale or build reserves. Especially in this market, the rate is just along for the ride, and I wish more people understood that part. The key is making sure it still cash flows at conservative rents.

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  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 748 posts · 552 votes
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    I stay in the 70 to 80% LTV range on DSCR, about 30-year amortization, and I plan to leave cash in most deals. That is normal in my box: buy under $100K, rehab to ARV $180K to $265K, rent 3BR+ at $1,395 to $1,950. At those numbers the rent has to clear the 1% rule and cover the payment with room. Stretching to 85% to keep cash only works if the next deal is already real and the first deal still cash flows at the higher payment. Otherwise you kept liquidity and bought a thinner deal. Rate matters, but coverage matters more. Deal flow is my bottleneck, not access to the last 5% of leverage.

  • Technology · Member since 2023 · 79 posts · 38 votes
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    Agree — rate shopping without LTV shopping is how investors strand their next down payment.

    On your $500k example: $50k left in the bank is worth more than 50–75 bps if that cash is the difference between buying deal #2 this year or waiting. Rough frame I use:

    1. Annualize the rate hit on the extra proceeds (not the whole loan)

    2. Compare that cost to the cash-on-cash / optionality of deploying the $50k

    3. Stress DSCR at the higher payment + realistic vacancy — 85% LTV only works if the rent still clears the lender's floor on trailing numbers

    4. Price the prepay: if you plan to refi or sell inside the penalty window, the "cheaper cash" can get expensive fast

    Where I push back: don't take 85% LTV on a thin-cash-flow property just to feel capitalized. Keeping dry powder matters; surviving a vacancy + insurance renewal matters more. Capital efficiency wins when the property's DSCR still has cushion after the uglier payment.

  • Stacy RaskinBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 512 votes
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    What impacts the rate for any time of mortgage, conventional or DSCR loans, is the same. For example, borrower's mortgage FICO score and loan to value (LTV). Higher credit scores are positive for rates as well as lower LTVs. Higher LTVs and lower credit scores make the rate go up. The lowest rate isn't always the best loan for the borrower. The other factors such as cash reserves are important for a real estate investor's success. It really depends on what the investor is looking to do and what the investor's short term and long term goals are.

  • Aaron ZimmermanBusiness Member
    Accountant · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    23h

    Depends on the project but I’m a fan of keeping more cash all else being equal and the deal isn’t too thin on dscr.

  • Investor · Washington, US · Member since 2021 · 109 posts · 36 votes
    22h

    Worth running both scenarios side by side on the same property: higher rate with $50k left over vs lower rate with it all in. Compare cash-on-cash plus what that $50k earns elsewhere, and check DSCR still clears on the pricier loan.

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