Rental Property Investor · NH · Member since 2023 · 446 posts · 420 votes
We could spend $30K to raise the studio ceiling in our Portsmouth building to 6 feet. We're probably not going to
The studio's ceiling is low. Really low. I'm 6 feet tall and I've crawled in there about four times now. I've told my contractor I'm not going back in until it's done.
Raising it would make the unit more rentable. No question.
But here's the math I keep coming back to. It's a small efficiency studio, walkable to downtown, and it's going to rent as an affordable unit. $30K is a lot of rent to make back on a unit like that, and it doesn't change the building's unit count or who buys it.
So the money goes where it moves the number instead: code items, kitchens and baths in the bigger units, and the exterior the city wants done before winter.
The studio still gets real work. It's getting rewired. It gets new flooring, paint, and more storage, because in a space that small, a couple of hooks and a smart corner shelf matter more than you'd think.
Here's the test I use on any upgrade. Will someone pay more for it, soon enough to matter? If the answer is "eventually, maybe," it waits.
I'll be honest, this one stings a little. But every dollar in a flip budget has to earn its spot.
What's an upgrade you skipped that you're glad you did?
We could spend $30K to raise the studio ceiling in our Portsmouth building to 6 feet. We're probably not going to
The studio's ceiling is low. Really low. I'm 6 feet tall and I've crawled in there about four times now. I've told my contractor I'm not going back in until it's done.
Raising it would make the unit more rentable. No question.
But here's the math I keep coming back to. It's a small efficiency studio, walkable to downtown, and it's going to rent as an affordable unit. $30K is a lot of rent to make back on a unit like that, and it doesn't change the building's unit count or who buys it.
So the money goes where it moves the number instead: code items, kitchens and baths in the bigger units, and the exterior the city wants done before winter.
The studio still gets real work. It's getting rewired. It gets new flooring, paint, and more storage, because in a space that small, a couple of hooks and a smart corner shelf matter more than you'd think.
Here's the test I use on any upgrade. Will someone pay more for it, soon enough to matter? If the answer is "eventually, maybe," it waits.
I'll be honest, this one stings a little. But every dollar in a flip budget has to earn its spot.
What's an upgrade you skipped that you're glad you did?
@Andrew Bosco, I understand why you'd hesitate to spend $30K on an upgrade that may not bring in much additional rent. Patrick raised a good question about the ceiling height, though. Before deciding to skip that work, I'd confirm with the local building department that the studio is approved for residential use as it is. That could make a big difference in your decision.
I'm a real estate attorney and investor based in Maryland, and I work with clients on property transactions, contracts, and other real estate matters. I've seen how important it is to consider both the financial and legal sides before making major property decisions.
I appreciate you sharing how you're approaching the renovation budget, @Andrew Bosco. It's a good reminder that not every improvement needs to be done, but some things are worth checking before making that call. Happy to stay connected!
Yeah that sucks. $30k is a good chunk that can be put to another deal out there. Then cost seg, pull the additional tax savings and put to another deal. rinse repeat. Good luck!
I’d be curious to compare the return on that same $30K across the different projects in the building. If raising the ceiling adds relatively little rent, while putting that money into the larger units reduces vacancy, supports higher rents or avoids future costs, the real cost of the ceiling isn’t just $30K. It’s also the return you gave up somewhere else in the property.
I agree with the way you're looking at it. It's easy to spend money making a property nicer without actually getting enough of that money back.
I like putting the money into the things that affect the value, rent, or the ability to sell the property. Not every improvement needs to be done just because it would be nice to have.
Sometimes you have to decide which improvements are worth the money and which ones aren't.
@Andrew Bosco Your instinct checks out on the numbers. If the higher ceiling adds $150/mo in rent, $30K takes almost 17 years to pay back. On value, $1,800 a year at a 6.5% cap is about $27.7K, so you'd roughly break even on paper and still carry the disruption.
The one case where I'd reconsider is if the current height creates a legal habitability or code issue for renting it at all. Then it's not an upgrade, it's the cost of keeping the unit.
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We could spend $30K to raise the studio ceiling in our Portsmouth building to 6 feet. We're probably not going to
The studio's ceiling is low. Really low. I'm 6 feet tall and I've crawled in there about four times now. I've told my contractor I'm not going back in until it's done.
Raising it would make the unit more rentable. No question.
But here's the math I keep coming back to. It's a small efficiency studio, walkable to downtown, and it's going to rent as an affordable unit. $30K is a lot of rent to make back on a unit like that, and it doesn't change the building's unit count or who buys it.
So the money goes where it moves the number instead: code items, kitchens and baths in the bigger units, and the exterior the city wants done before winter.
The studio still gets real work. It's getting rewired. It gets new flooring, paint, and more storage, because in a space that small, a couple of hooks and a smart corner shelf matter more than you'd think.
Here's the test I use on any upgrade. Will someone pay more for it, soon enough to matter? If the answer is "eventually, maybe," it waits.
I'll be honest, this one stings a little. But every dollar in a flip budget has to earn its spot.
What's an upgrade you skipped that you're glad you did?
Building codes generally require a minimum of 7 feet for habitable rooms, why do you state 6 feet? If I couldn't take it to at least 7 feet, I'd pass.
I run 17 units across MA buy-and-hold, and my rule is simple: if the spend doesn't move rent or protect the appraisal, it waits. Code and safety items aren't optional — those get done first, always. Kitchens and baths come next because tenants actually pay for them. The ceiling raise is the one I'd skip, or at least do last. It feels like an upgrade when you're standing in the unit, but in my experience tenants don't pay a premium for ceiling height, and appraisers don't credit it either. I've never once regretted money I put into kitchens, baths, or fixing what an inspector would flag — and I've definitely regretted cosmetic spends that looked great and returned nothing. Run the $30K against expected rent lift over 24 months. If it doesn't pay back in that window, it's a want, not an investment.