Investor · Worcester, MA · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
As a buyer, I want to see an accurate renovation budget and a realistic ARV backed by solid comps. If you underestimate the work or inflate the resale value, the deal falls apart once we dig into the numbers. Bring me a deal that works with realistic assumptions, and we have something to talk about.
What makes the biggest difference in getting your deals closed—accurate numbers, the right buyers, the seller relationship, or something else?
From the buyer side, Andrew — it's the numbers, every time. I buy small multifamily in Worcester, and the wholesaler deals I actually close on are the ones where the rehab budget is honest and the ARV is backed by real, recent comps — not best-case ones.
When the budget is light or the ARV is stretched, it doesn't survive underwriting. I have to re-price it, trust takes a hit, and most of those deals just die on my desk. The ones with realistic assumptions? We can talk the same day, because there's nothing to unwind.
Right buyer list matters, but accurate numbers are what get a deal to the closing table. Happy to connect — DMs open.
From the buyer side, accurate numbers are the whole game.
I buy single-family in Memphis under $100K, looking for ARV $180K-$265K and rent that hits the 1% rule. When a wholesaler brings me real rehab numbers, real comps, and beds and baths as they are now and as they could be after a 2/1 to 3/1 or 3/1 to 4/2 conversion, I can say yes or no fast.
Deals fall apart when the ARV is a hope, the rehab is a guess, or the rent is made up. Deals close when I can run DSCR at 70-80% LTV and the rent still carries it. Bring me that, and bring it often. Deal flow is the bottleneck.
Accurate numbers get the deal started. Follow up is what gets it closed.
Deals rarely fall apart over one big number. They die in silence. The seller gets a better call, the buyer cools off, and nobody notices until it’s too late.
What keeps them together:
Numbers that hold up when the buyer digs in, just like you said. Real comps and a real repair budget.
One update to the seller every week, on the same day, even when nothing’s changed.
The buyer hears from you before they ever have to ask.
At what stage do you see most deals fall apart on your side?
From the sourcing side, the killer I see most is title problems nobody checked before signing: back taxes, municipal liens, open code violations, or an estate where the seller doesn't have authority to sell yet. All of that is in public records and takes maybe an hour to pull, but plenty of wholesalers skip it and find out from the title company two weeks in. I'd put it right next to an honest rehab budget and ARV, because a deal with realistic numbers still dies if the seller can't deliver clean title. Do you ask wholesalers for a lien check up front, or run your own?
From the buyer side, Andrew — it's the numbers, every time. I buy small multifamily in Worcester, and the wholesaler deals I actually close on are the ones where the rehab budget is honest and the ARV is backed by real, recent comps — not best-case ones.
When the budget is light or the ARV is stretched, it doesn't survive underwriting. I have to re-price it, trust takes a hit, and most of those deals just die on my desk. The ones with realistic assumptions? We can talk the same day, because there's nothing to unwind.
Right buyer list matters, but accurate numbers are what get a deal to the closing table. Happy to connect — DMs open.
The numbers have to work, but getting a contract signed is only one part of it. You still have to coordinate the seller, buyer, title company, and anybody else involved to get it closed.
My advice is to get title started early, know what your buyer actually buys, and be upfront about the property's condition. Ask what still needs to happen before closing and who is handling it. Don't assume everything is moving just because nobody has called with a problem.
A buyer saying “I'll take it” and a buyer actually closing are two different things. Stay involved until the money changes hands.
You put it well, Andrew — from the buyer side, the numbers are the trust. On the disposition side here in San Antonio, I have seen the same thing: when the rehab and the resale math are honest, a buyer can say yes fast, and when they are stretched, the deal just dies in underwriting. I also agree with the follow-up point others made — staying in touch with the seller and the buyer while title is worked through matters as much as the first numbers. Happy to connect here if you ever want to compare notes on what makes a buyer actually close.
Lee's question about where they fall apart is a good one. From the systems side, a lot of them die in the gap between getting it under contract and getting it to the buyer and title.
Most of those are a missing piece of information, not a missing person. When a deal goes under contract, whoever handles dispo should get the same things every time: contract price, close date, access notes, repair estimate, and anything the seller was promised. If one of those is blank, it doesn't go out to buyers yet.
Same when it goes to title. A short checklist with a name and a date on each step (title ordered, liens checked, buyer deposit in) beats someone remembering to send a text. Travis's "who is handling" question is that checklist in one line.
From the agent side, the ones that close have clean title, realistic timelines, and a buyer who's already underwritten the deal. The ones that die usually blow up on inspection surprises or a buyer who never had the cash lined up.
Deals usually fall apart for 2 reasons from my 3+ years of wholesaling:
It wasn't a DEAL at all. The numbers were never right, or the location never made sense, etc.
It was a deal but the wholesaler made a newbie mistake, such as not making the cash buyer put down SIZABLE and NON-REFUNDABLE EMD, and the buyer found another house they liked more, and poof! Went missing.
Accurate numbers, and it isn't close. From the buyer's side, the deals that die on me almost always die in the first ten minutes of checking: the ARV is built on comps that aren't really comparable — different street, renovated money on an as-is house — or the rehab is a round number with no scope behind it.
What makes a wholesaler's deal easy to say yes to is when the homework is visible: closed comps I can verify myself, and a rehab figure that reads like it came from an actual scope — roof, mechanicals, kitchen, baths as separate lines instead of '30k rehab, light cosmetics' on a house that needs everything. If your numbers survive my checking, I'll trust your next deal faster, and that trust is what gets your calls answered first.
The second separator is the early title check. Back taxes, liens, code violations, a seller who can't actually sign — finding that in week one saves the deal; finding it at the closing table kills it and burns the buyer relationship with it.