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BiggerPockets Founder · Denver, Colorado


Unicorns, Sasquatch, Centaurs, Bulk REO Deals . . . they all seem to be mythical creatures.

I've started this discussion because I'm pretty convinced that we will be terminating the BP Bulk REO forum and will require any Bulk posts happen in the BP Bulk REO Group. That said, perhaps you could convince me otherwise . . .

If you've closed a bulk REO deal, we want to see proof. To be honest, I have no idea how you're going to do that, but I will not be taking people's word that they have closed one without actual physical proof.

So . . .

Here's the challenge:

1 - If you feel like the Bulk forum needs to go the way of the political forum or dinosaurs, jump in and say so. We want to hear from you.

2 - If you want us to keep the forum alive, I don't want to hear from you unless you've closed a real deal; and if you have, you will need to provide evidence and post it in public.

Well, here's your opportunity . . . does the Bulk forum stay or does it go?

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Real Estate Investor · Milwaukee, Wisconsin


Look at the spam in that section. It is a bunch of wholesalers selling stuff they dont control. BP is mostly small investors. Bulk tape is mostly sold to big funds with people who are not on BP looking for deals (sorry Josh).


Real Estate Investor · Austin, Texas


I have a friend's wife's cousin's daughter's maid that is direct to the source for a $1T tape. If only I can waste enough investor's time I can make my .001% commission and be living high on the hog!

I would suggest closing the forum Josh, but I don't believe in unicorns or non-cheating OU football teams :-)

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Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


The only ones that I know of that are pulling off bulk REO deals are large hedge funds and I have yet to see anyone actually representing one on here.


BiggerPockets Founder · Denver, Colorado


Jeffrey - The entire "Bulk REO" industry is just a bunch of spam, IMO. Sure - deals happen amongst institutions, but I remain unconvinced that these deals are happening otherwise.

Bryan - You too?

James - I've been watching this nonsense for years . . . despite the claim by hundreds to thousands of people that they are doing business in the space, none so far has provided me with an ounce of proof.

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Real Estate Investor · Milwaukee, Wisconsin


Shut it down then. it makes the site look bad.


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


do i need to sign a NCND and send over my LOI to respond in this thread? i'd be interested if anyone really did close a deal like this as well


Residential Real Estate Agent · Newport Beach, California


Josh-

There was a guy from G8 Capital that used to post on here. They are local and they have been well publicized in the local media as having closed on bulk REO. Other than that... I agree with the assessment, and am anxiously awaiting my +3.


BiggerPockets Founder · Denver, Colorado


That's my thinking, Jeffrey.

If we've got a forum dedicated to something that for all intensive purposes, doesn't exist, aren't we just as bad as the people who are trying to sell folks on the dream that it is possible to do these deals? The last thing I want is for people to think that BP looks at Bulk REO as a viable strategy for the common investor.

The reason that we created the Bulk REO forum was because we had so many people coming to the site and posting their phantom "deals" everywhere else; we needed a place to put it. In retrospect, we should have just put them in the group . . . .

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Real Estate Investor · Springfield, Missouri


Josh, the real deals in this arena are beyond the scope of your target market on BP, IMO. I may send flowers upon its passing a natural death.


Accountant · Garden Grove, California


Bulk REO's!
Military Intelligence!
Honest Politician!
A Real Reality Show!

While they all do exist, their relevance to BP is non existent. Time to close it Josh.


Commercial Loan Officer


Hey, I was in Military Intelligence!!

My vote is to shut that forum down. As mentioned, I too believe its existence will only serve to drag down the overall quality of BP.

As this site expands it will likely attract an ever increasing amount of spammers who want to push their product and not contribute anything of value. By keeping the sandbox more controlled it will make it easier to make them feel unwelcome.

If BP finds itself in a position where there is an actual need for a bulk REO forum down the road, perhaps you can create a semi-private forum where the members are screened to keep out the spammers.


BiggerPockets Founder · Denver, Colorado


Great feedback guys . . . fantastic suggestion, Darryl.

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Real Estate Investor · Altus, Oklahoma


Originally posted by BryanA
do i need to sign a NCND and send over my LOI to respond in this thread? i'd be interested if anyone really did close a deal like this as well

Sorry but you have to show your POF before you respond to this thread. That way we know you're serious about this :mrgreen:


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


I think the consensus is in Josh - shut it down, that is my vote too!

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Real Estate Investor · Wheat Ridge, Colorado


What about bulk notes? Bulk NPN certainly seems like Bulk REO with a different set of initials.

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Real Estate Consultant · Ft Worth, Texas


Our company buys NPN's, and would welcome the chance to buy Bulk REO. As noted,the Bulk REO arena is like a snipe hunt,largely mythical. That said,Realty Note Bid,PennyMac,Carlton Exchange are authentic clearing houses for those assets... and transactions are made daily.If you want real product,establish real personal relationships with Special loan servicers,trustees and NON-tarp lenders...



Personally, I've never visited that part of the site. I guess for those interested the group area is still an option. Hope that helps! :D


Real Estate Lender · Fort Pierce, Florida


Counterintuitively, do you think that closing that particular forum withh prevent people from posting bulk REO offers?

Or will those postings find their way into other forums somewhat randomly?


BiggerPockets Founder · Denver, Colorado


Kevin - Those postings already show up everywhere else. We move them pretty consistently. Not much change in terms of moderation, IMO.

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