Competing Against the Big Players-How?

Competing Against the Big Players-How?

Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 57 posts · 3 votes

I was just talking to a local real estate agent in the Chicago market and she informed me that the houses I am interested in are being bought up at prices over asking price by a hedge fund and other bigger players that are seasoned and well established. I am trying to just get started and am discouraged that I am trying to buy in the same market using the 70 percent rule whereas the hedge fund is buying 400 houses a month, paying above asking prices, and mostly sight unseen. The only difference is that they are holding them for rentals rather than flipping them back to market. Nevertheless, they have the quick funds, relationships to do the work at a cheaper cost since their contractors are doing volume, as well as obtaining materials from China at a discounted price. One of these types of players alone is enough to be overwhelmed and yet there are others that are also knocking on the same market door. Moreover, the market is only picking up which means things will get even tighter. Help! How do I compete and not get quickly discouraged?

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Flipper/Rehabber · Denver, CO · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes
12y

You really cant compete against a hedge fund with unlimited money with stupid buying criteria (90% in many places) head to head. What you CAN do is go around them. They arent as nimble as you are, so if you can catch deals before they can, or grab deals when they fall out of contract. Hedge funds arent marketing for off market deals, they arent door knocking, they arent at the courthouse looking up probates, they arent calling tired landlords.... They are just grabbing everything they can off the MLS, so if you cant compete directly on the MLS, dont.

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  • Wholesaler And Coach · Springfield, VA · Member since 2011 · 169 posts · 75 votes
    12y

    If you are competing with hedge funds you are either looking at listed properties or auction properties. Its hard to find deals within these two areas even if hedge funds didn't exist. You will start to see hedge funds get out of the buying market in the coming months. If you don't want to compete with them market for motivated sellers.

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 57 posts · 3 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Brad Chandler:
    If you are competing with hedge funds you are either looking at listed properties or auction properties. Its hard to find deals within these two areas even if hedge funds didn't exist. You will start to see hedge funds get out of the buying market in the coming months. If you don't want to compete with them market for motivated sellers.

    @Brad Chandler

    Brad, You are correct and I realize my mistake since the mls is not the top resource for a fix and flipper. However, you mentioned the hedge funds will get out of the buying market in the coming months. I would be grateful for more elaboration on this insight. Simply stated, what will change? Thanks-Ken

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