DSCR or HELOC?

DSCR or HELOC?

Cole PaytonPro Member
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A DSCR loan or HELOC for purchasing another mid-term rental? How does a DSCR loan work? Do they base it on my current rental property or primary residence?

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AJ WongBusiness Member
Real Estate Broker · Oregon & California Coast · Member since 2022 · 834 posts · 696 votes
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A DSCR loan or HELOC for purchasing another mid-term rental? How does a DSCR loan work? Do they base it on my current rental property or primary residence?

Hi Cole. A DSCR is a debt service coverage ratio loan (against the new property) and effectively uses a proportion of the current or proposed rental income to qualify. Typically 15-25% down or wherever the ratios work. A HELOC is secured against (in this case) the primary and can be utilized for either a proportion of the down payment or (if you have enough equity) the entire purchase price.

Many investors will use a HELOC or fixed second mortgage as the source of down payment funds to cover the 15-25% down on a DSCR or investment property mortgage. There are many other ways to qualify besides DSCR, like bank statement averages or even P&L statements that can offer lower down payments..check in with @Joseph Chiofalo he's a 20+ year mortgage colleague and can help with structuring and options. Good luck! 

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  • AJ WongBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Oregon & California Coast · Member since 2022 · 834 posts · 696 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Cole Payton:

    A DSCR loan or HELOC for purchasing another mid-term rental? How does a DSCR loan work? Do they base it on my current rental property or primary residence?

    Hi Cole. A DSCR is a debt service coverage ratio loan (against the new property) and effectively uses a proportion of the current or proposed rental income to qualify. Typically 15-25% down or wherever the ratios work. A HELOC is secured against (in this case) the primary and can be utilized for either a proportion of the down payment or (if you have enough equity) the entire purchase price.

    Many investors will use a HELOC or fixed second mortgage as the source of down payment funds to cover the 15-25% down on a DSCR or investment property mortgage. There are many other ways to qualify besides DSCR, like bank statement averages or even P&L statements that can offer lower down payments..check in with @Joseph Chiofalo he's a 20+ year mortgage colleague and can help with structuring and options. Good luck! 

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  • Cole PaytonPro Member
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    Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 9 votes
    2y

    If I used a HELOC for the down payment, what's the use of a DSCR loan? Rehab cost?

  • Lender · Tampa/St. Petersburg/Sarasota FL and Knoxville/Sevierville/Maryville, TN · Member since 2018 · 361 posts · 178 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Cole Payton:

    If I used a HELOC for the down payment, what's the use of a DSCR loan? Rehab cost?


    You may be able to use the downpayment for a fix and flip loan if you are buying a property that needs updating and renovation, and then you would be able to refinance it into a DSCR. Depending on what the numbers look like some of the funds allow you to pull equity out after a few months. which would hopefully allow you to put money back into your heloc. However they will cap you at 70-75% loan to value.

  • Investor · Teaneck · Member since 2022 · 49 posts · 29 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Cole Payton:

    A DSCR loan or HELOC for purchasing another mid-term rental? How does a DSCR loan work? Do they base it on my current rental property or primary residence?

    A simple explanation is DSCR is to finance the property based on the income or projected income of the property and a HELOC is like a credit card that will be given to you base of the equity of the house you are putting as collateral. 2 diffrent products consulting with a good mortgage broker that will provide you the information depending on your needs. I hope it helps. Happy investing!.
  • Cole PaytonPro Member
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    Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 9 votes
    2y

    Thanks everyone!

  • Banker · Henderson, NV · Member since 2023 · 317 posts · 74 votes
    2y

    Hi Cole, 

    What price point would you be targeting on the new purchase? 

    There are programs available where lenders will allow up to 85% financing on an investment property purchase. 

    You could use a heloc to source and support down payment for the new purchase.  

    A DSCR loan is underwritten based off of the applicants credit and an appraisal rent schedule.

  • River SavaPro Member
    Lender · USA · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Hi Cole - Really depends on your position. DSCR Loans are mortgage loans secured by residential real estate turnkey properties strictly used for a business purpose and underwritten primarily based on the property. If you are looking to continue to scale your portfolio it may be worth looking into a DSCR. 

    DSCR loans do not rely on strict DTI ratios, allowing flexibile underwriting, and they support LLCs/entities. There are no size limits when it comes to these loans (conventional is around $725k max loan size) and can accommodate diverse assets like short/mid terms. There is also less paperwork invloved. Happy to chat further if you have questions.

  • Cole PaytonPro Member
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    Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 9 votes
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    @River Sava I assume that by turnkey, you wouldn't recommend this option for a property needing renovations? Perhaps a fix and flip due to the higher rate? Yes, that would be helpful. 

  • Kerry BairdPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    2y

    @Cole Payton, I'm of the mindset to go with conventional mortgages for houses that I plan on holding, until the reserve requirements become too difficult. I do ask for seller financing on every property I make an offer on. Once lenders wanted huge sums of money for six months' reserves, I used DSCR for purchasing rentals. I want to keep reserves, but not 6 months for every house.

    For an emergency fund, the HELOC on primary is really useful. It is possible, though more expensive and difficult, to get a HELOC on an investment property.

  • John MorganPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    2y

    I love DSCR loans. Have done 5 of them. However, it all comes down to what the appraisal says market rent will be as a LTR not MTR. So if market rent supports the mortgage then you're set.

  • Investor · Milwaukee - Mequon, WI · Member since 2010 · 5k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    If you want to be successful, you have to use a DSCR loan!

    Nobody wants an ARM (adjustable-rate mortgage); yikes - of course not, everyone knows you are at risk of forclosure! Or even riskier: a commercial balloon loan with a high interest rate and a personal guarantee that is due IN FULL after 5 years! That sounds really risky!!

    But everyone loves DSCR loans!

    They are this amazing "new" loan product, that solves all issues for new investors. And it just sounds so cool. Everyone knows it's hard to qualify for a loan, but with DSCR it's easy! You can build a huge portfolio in 6 months or less and have $20,000 in monthly income and then travel the world! And all that thanks to DSCR loans!

    *** LOL, obviously kidding, sorry I had to

  • Cole PaytonPro Member
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    Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 9 votes
    2y

    @Kerry Baird Is there a larger down payment with a DSCR loan on investment properties? Also, is it paid back similar to a HELOC?

  • Kerry BairdPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    2y

    @Cole Payton, yes there is a larger down payment for DSCR than with conventional. I have found HELOCs that range from 70% LTV upwards, but they vary from lender to lender. They are easier to obtain on owner occupied properties, and the LTV is higher on owner occupied houses than on rental houses. The interest rate is variable, and we pay only on the amount that we draw from the line. It can be drawn and repaid, drawn and repaid...somewhat like a big credit card that enables us to use equity in the house. This affects DTI in a negative fashion, like a credit card would do.

    The DSCR can be interest only for a period of time, often is 30 year repayment period. The interest rates I have are fixed. This product does not consider DTI but rather the cash flow that the property generates.

  • Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 448 posts · 441 votes
    2y

    DSCR loans are based on the projected income for a property (for an acquisition) or actual income (for refinances). A mid-term rental would be treated like an STR acquisition, and you would use AirDNA's projected income to qualify.

  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Cole Payton:

    A DSCR loan or HELOC for purchasing another mid-term rental? How does a DSCR loan work? Do they base it on my current rental property or primary residence?

    A DSCR purchase loan would be based on the purchase of the rental property. You may use a HELOC from your primary to finance the downpayment of the purchase of the rental property. You qualify based on the rents covering the full mortgage payment. No personal DTI required to qualify.

    A HELOC would be based on your primary or investment property you currently own. Lenders will want to verify you can meet DTI and credit requirements to qualify.

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  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    On a side note, if the property is a mid-term rental, lenders will default to market rents to qualify. If the property is a borderline STR and there are other properties to support short term rents you might be able to use STR rents instead with an exception

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  • Lender · Member since 2022 · 441 posts · 134 votes
    2y

    Hey Cole, DSCR is based off the cash flow of the subject property

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2020 · 234 posts · 194 votes
    2y

    @Cole Payton A HELOC can be a great tool but it is totally different than a DSCR:

    - DSCR is a debt service coverage ratio loan where the bank says we will lend 80% LTV and the rent must be 10%-15% above your monthly payment. You can basically do an unlimited number of these deals as no DTI or on your credit. We've helped many investors do deals with these loans.

    - The HELOC is a line of credit on your house and you don't pay anything unless you use it, like a credit card. If you have a HELOC you can buy pretty much any house with any LTV because it is your cash to use however you want.

    We have some free classes that explain DSCR loans more with examples, please reach out and I can send those over. Hope that helps. Thanks! : )

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