HELOC vs. Cash out Refi

HELOC vs. Cash out Refi

Rental Property Investor · GA · Member since 2018 · 28 posts · 12 votes

Finally I am ready to get my loan to build my empire. Yayyyy. After a lot of research I decided to keep my property in my name and I found the best banks with the best APR and best rates for me in this area. Here's what I'm looking at.

I own a SFH property here free and clear appraised at 73 grand. Credit score is over 620(Thank God)

Option 1 Heloc fixed rate 10 years 7.75. APR. 90 to 100 prevent of LTV. No closing cost. 2 weeks. My monthly payments would be 876.75. Insurance is 90.00. Taxes are 1000 a year. I pay that separate. I have the option to refi in a few years. This is a 2 week process.

Option 2 Cash out Refi. 30 year fixed 3.875 APR 90 to 100 percent loan to value. Monthly payment would be 343.00 a month plus taxes and insurance. It would be under 600.00 a month. This process is 30 days. No closing cost but 35.00 credit check.

Option 3 HELOC 85% LTV which gives me 62,000. Prime + 125. At rates right now my payment would be 369.00 a month. Insurance and Taxes are not included. This is not fixed and could change anytime with payments. I was told I could call an advisor to tell me estimates of how and when the variable rates may change. This is 20 years.

Option 4 Conventional 20 year fixed. 445.00 a month. 62,000 as well. 20 years. 3000 closing costs. I don't know what APR rate is. Its not in my notes.

So I want to know what do you think and What would you do? Thank you for your responses. I appreciate it.

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Rental Property Investor · Keaau, HI · Member since 2019 · 55 posts · 33 votes
7y

My rookie opinion: if your saying you can get 90 to 100% LTV on the cash out refi I'd say that's your best option by far. especially with the low fixed 30 year apr (everyone is saying rates will only go up from here...). Use that cash and whatever you've saved up to by a distressed property with cash and begin the BRRRRR (did I get all the R's?) process... YESSSAH! question: Your house's value is 73 G's? Dang maybe I need to look into investing in Georgia...

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  • Rental Property Investor · Keaau, HI · Member since 2019 · 55 posts · 33 votes
    7y

    My rookie opinion: if your saying you can get 90 to 100% LTV on the cash out refi I'd say that's your best option by far. especially with the low fixed 30 year apr (everyone is saying rates will only go up from here...). Use that cash and whatever you've saved up to by a distressed property with cash and begin the BRRRRR (did I get all the R's?) process... YESSSAH! question: Your house's value is 73 G's? Dang maybe I need to look into investing in Georgia...

  • Rental Property Investor · Hooksett, NH · Member since 2018 · 42 posts · 35 votes
    7y

    I would have to agree with @Alipate Moleni. Im assuming you are planning on renting the SFR? If the rental numbers work, I would refi out of it and put that money right into a BRRRR. This way you can cover closing costs and move forward with traditional financing. From the sounds of it, you may not even need traditional financing based off of home values in your area. Utilize that money to create more money. The other options aren't bad, but this seems the safest and more importantly most proven method out there. Build that empire!!!!

  • Member since 2018 · 57 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    I'm in the same boat, searching for the best option on a similar priced property. I'm leaning toward the cash out refi, but wow....my rates arent nearly as good as what you found. I'm looking at about 3k in closing and can only borrow 75% of the appraised value. 

    If you can borrow 90-100% with no closing costs, this sounds good to me!

  • Investor · Reno, NV · Member since 2014 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    I just tried to get a cash out refi on a free and clear investment property worth $90k and am hitting a wall because I'm looking at taking out $30k and lenders want to start at $50k. Ok, I'll take $50k (banker says up to 60% which is $54k) however this is not a primary residence so they can't make the rates work. Is it the not being a primary residence or the low $50k loan amount what's killing me? I asked this banker many questions and he tells me no problem . I didn't want the hard pull on my credit unless I was getting the loan - yeah he pulls it and comes back with he can't make the numbers work for $50k and non primary residence. 

    Am I going to have this same issue with a HELOC or should I start contacting the HM lenders that I have access to? (I don't want to sell as it's cash flowing $425/mo.)

    Is the main issue that this is an investment property versus Alishea's being a primary?  

  • Investor · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2017 · 102 posts · 88 votes
    7y

    @Suzanna H. It because it’s not your primary home. Ask to speak to the commercial lending side of the bank. You can also try different local banks and see what they can offer.

  • Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2018 · 420 posts · 388 votes
    6y

    @Alishea B. Where are you finding such high LTV for cash out refinance? I have only been able to find 80%LTV or lower.

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    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 26 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    @Alishea B. Who are you talking with for your HELOC loans? I'm looking to do the same and I'm looking for a lender that will do a HELOC on rental properties. Thank you.

  • Real Estate Agent · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2016 · 91 posts · 26 votes
    6y

    I think we'd all like to know who's lending at 90-100% ltv. It seems risky for both sides. 

  • Rental Property Investor · GA · Member since 2018 · 28 posts · 12 votes
    6y

    Hello everyone,

    I got these great rates from my local credit unions and did research online and made several calls on who would give me the best bang for my buck. I actually ended up hitting the wall with the HELOC due to debt income ratio. I found a mortgage broker and we got the property appraised. It came back at 107,000. We then wrapped me in a conventional loan at 4.25 rate. I took the cash out and got my rental and invested in some other investments. I officially became a landlord November 1. I'm now looking for that second property. I wanted to get two rentals this 4th quarter of the year.

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