Fraud Property Investment or Not?does anyone know this company?

Commercial Real Estate Investing
10yFollow

Fraud Property Investment or Not?does anyone know this company?

Princess Lukhele
Investor · Johannesburg, Gauteng · Member since 2015 · 5 posts · 0 votes

Good day All,

I have been approached by a company call O properties  their website is

they offer the below and I am tempted to invest, I wanted to ask you have perhaps heard about them and if they are legit or they are fraud.

I checked the internet and couldn't find any scams on line related to them, kindly please give me your opinion if it would be wise to join them or not.

Your view will be highly appreciated

Regards, Princess

Earn $3,600 Rental Income Monthly When You Invest $1,000
Earn $7,300 Rental Income Monthly When You Invest $2,000
Earn $18,000 Rental Income Monthly When You Invest $5,000
Earn $36,000 Rental Income Monthly When You Invest $10,000
0Reply
18 views

Most Popular Reply

David Dachtera
Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
10y

@Princess Lukhele,

Looked into this:

No info on Snopes (yet). Sent them a message about it.

No hits on Google for "oproperties scam".

Went to their "Contact Us" page, plugged their posted address into Google Maps. Comes up as an office building in Malvern, PA.

Found their "whois" data at mawords.com. The name is registered thru a privacy company in Queensland, AU. Registered just about a month ago (2016-04-20 / 20 April (Wednesday) 2016), 18-May-2016 in "whois" (whois.net).

So, this looks like a start-up. 

I'd sit on it until late Q3 CY2016 and see what comes of it.

If they're operating in Malvern, PA, I'd expect to be able to find some publicly available information about them, though the actual company name seems well hidden (* Red Flag *). May take a fair amount to digging to find it. Their home page shows a name of "Opportunity Properties". Googling that pulls up a number entries, some of which mention a "blast from the past" name of "Carbo" (Joe Carbo of "Lazy Man's Way To Riches"? I wonder...)

If I find anything further, I'll post an update.

David J Dachtera

"Success is not a destination. Failure is not an event. Success is a process, failure is a choice."
- DJ Benedict

1Reply
See this reply in the discussion

12 Replies

Jump to latestLatest
  • Chet Mazur
    Flipper · Cupertino, CA · Member since 2015 · 265 posts · 27 votes
    10y

    How can those numbers make sense? I vote bogus.

    0Reply
  • Princess Lukhele
    OP
    Investor · Johannesburg, Gauteng · Member since 2015 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    I agree, it sounds too good to be true

    this is their response when I asked questions

    Good Day P,

    1.We are a registered company and have a good reputation. Visit to view how we list apartments we lease and rent out for you online. We have over 65,000 investors and are very popular. Come back to me once ready to invest and we lease and rent out an apartment for you.

    2. You deposit is paid via Paypal, Paypal is the worlds number 1 payment merchant that has verified us as a company and if you are not happy, you are able to ask for a refund through Paypal and they will have it refunded back as your transaction is secured through them as they have verified us as well with all our company details.When making your deposit payment you will be taken onto our account with Paypal. We use Paypal as its the safest and most secure merchant.

    I will be happy to assist you and get your started with our property investments

    further more they responded and said:

    We are not a scam P. Yes the revenue from the rental are paid on the 15th to the investor. You pay the deposit once towards each apartment. We have never had an apartment not rented out in a month. We advertise them on popular sites such as  , about 3,000 travel sites and agencies in total and about  60 airline sites.

    Your deposit is refundable and secure through Paypal. We guarantee that we lease you the best apartment and advertise it through our platform, it will start getting bookings within its first week live. There are 2 million travelers each month that would view it from other countries around the world not just 1 country. If we lease an apartment in the United Kingdom for example, it receives booking requests from travelers Canada, United States, Australia, Germany, Italy, France, China etc.

    Leasing and renting out an apartment in Korea also has high success. There are alot of people from all over the world who go in and out of Korea on every week and month of the year on business. China is another. USA and UK and Europe are also high in success. We do not have 1 complaint from our investors in terms of payouts and their apartments we lease being rented out.

    Remember, we also benefit from it rented out as we pocket a 7.8% commission every month. And you leasing more apartments we earn more as a company. This is our ore business and function.

    0Reply
  • Rocky V.
    Rental Property Investor · Arlington, TX · Member since 2012 · 788 posts · 640 votes
    10y

    I googled map the address and they did not show up.  Also websites does not state how long they have been in business.  Seems very fishy to me.  I do find it strange that you could pay with a cc so you should be able to refute the charge if they do not do as promised.

    0Reply
  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
    Moderator
    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    10y

    On Godaddy Whois it shows they just created the website in April of this year and they only did it for one year. That doesn't add up to claims they are giving in their response. It is showing out of Australia.

    Remember if things are shown to good to be true then........................

    Domain Name: oproperties.today
    Domain ID: ae62975fdc9445f78d837fe0e2f84dad-DONUTS
    WHOIS Server: www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
    Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
    Updated Date: 2016-04-23T12:20:23Z
    Creation Date: 2016-04-18T12:20:14Z
    Registry Expiry Date: 2017-04-18T12:20:14Z
    Sponsoring Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
    Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 303
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
    Registrant ID: ppsp001
    Registrant Name: Domain Admin
    Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
    Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org
    Registrant City: Nobby Beach
    Registrant State/Province: Queensland
    Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218
    Registrant Country: AU
    Registrant Phone:
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax:
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: email@privacyprotect.org
    Admin ID: ppsp001
    Admin Name: Domain Admin
    Admin Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
    Admin Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org
    Admin City: Nobby Beach
    Admin State/Province: Queensland
    Admin Postal Code: QLD 4218
    Admin Country: AU

    Podcast Guest on Show #47
    NNN Invest53 Reviews
    WebsiteView Page
    0Reply
  • Princess Lukhele
    OP
    Investor · Johannesburg, Gauteng · Member since 2015 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    Thank you so much for the information, i am technically challenged :) i would have not found all that details.

    I appreciate all the digging and advise, i'll  hold on to my funds.

    You are right they are very dodgy

    Thanks guys

    0Reply
  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    @Princess Lukhele  REAL ESTATE Scheme's born out of foreign ( at least foreign to US) rarely have oversight.. not that there were not plenty of Aussies selling Ghetto WAR zones as Grade A investments because there was.

    65,000 investors is a lot of investors..

    Podcast Guest on Show #222
    JLH Capital Partners51 Review
    WebsiteView Page
    0Reply
  • David Dachtera
    Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    @Princess Lukhele,

    Looked into this:

    No info on Snopes (yet). Sent them a message about it.

    No hits on Google for "oproperties scam".

    Went to their "Contact Us" page, plugged their posted address into Google Maps. Comes up as an office building in Malvern, PA.

    Found their "whois" data at mawords.com. The name is registered thru a privacy company in Queensland, AU. Registered just about a month ago (2016-04-20 / 20 April (Wednesday) 2016), 18-May-2016 in "whois" (whois.net).

    So, this looks like a start-up. 

    I'd sit on it until late Q3 CY2016 and see what comes of it.

    If they're operating in Malvern, PA, I'd expect to be able to find some publicly available information about them, though the actual company name seems well hidden (* Red Flag *). May take a fair amount to digging to find it. Their home page shows a name of "Opportunity Properties". Googling that pulls up a number entries, some of which mention a "blast from the past" name of "Carbo" (Joe Carbo of "Lazy Man's Way To Riches"? I wonder...)

    If I find anything further, I'll post an update.

    David J Dachtera

    "Success is not a destination. Failure is not an event. Success is a process, failure is a choice."
    - DJ Benedict

    1Reply
  • Princess Lukhele
    OP
    Investor · Johannesburg, Gauteng · Member since 2015 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    Thanks a mil guys, this is so helpful,highly appreciated.

    0Reply
  • David Dachtera
    Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    @Princess Lukhele,

    Repeated attempts to contact them thru their website and via the e-mail address on their "Contact Us" page have gone unanswered.

    Looks like a dead end.

    David J Dachtera

    0Reply
  • David Dachtera
    Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    That said, saw something in another thread which might prove interesting.

    Check out HoldFolio and see if their business model suits you. They appear to be a start-up, also, yet at least have testimonials to try and verify and their company information is available thru the website.

    (I have no connection to HoldFolio.)

    David J Dachtera

    0Reply
  • Damon DiPlacido
    Real Estate Agent · Bala Cynwyd, PA · Member since 2016 · 67 posts · 29 votes
    10y

    I know this office building in Malvern where they are located. Dun & Bradstreet is in this building. Also in this building as a tenant is American Executive Centers, which rents out individual offices (by the room) and a centralized/shared administrative assistant to many new/newer businesses.  The principal of Oproperties is most likely renting an office here. 

    0Reply
  • David Dachtera
    Rental Property Investor · Rockford, IL · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    @Damon DiPlacido,

    Yes. Virtual office space is another approach to commercial rental that some investors are using.

    I'm just concerned that this business has chosen to attempt to conceal itself.

    Their claims are a bit extravagant for such a secretive outfit - not just the benefits the tout but their claims about their clientele and exposures.

    I've actually built spreadsheets to see if it could be duplicatable, and it is looking at least possible if expenses can be controlled and limited. So, maybe if I can find enough like-minded partners, I might do this myself along with my partners.

    David J Dachtera

    0Reply
Join the conversationCreate a free account to reply, vote on answers and follow this thread.
Log InJoin for Free