Real Estate Consultant · Connecticut Ct · Member since 2026 · 130 posts · 30 votes
I’ve been seeing a consistent pattern with 2–4 unit deals that look solid on paper but never make it to closing — especially with house hacks and small multifamily.
Between appraisal issues, DSCR assumptions, seasoning, reserve requirements, and owner-occupant nuances, it feels like financing friction is killing more deals than the actual real estate.
For those actively buying, lending, or underwriting in this space:
what’s the #1 reason you’re seeing small MFH deals stall or die right now?
Curious to hear what others are seeing on the ground.
Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 373 votes
7mo
The #1 killer right now is appraisal hitting below ARV on value-add deals. Lenders are ordering appraisals on as-is condition, not factoring in the rehab scope you promised them. Then your proforma breaks, DSCR collapses, and you're stuck holding a renovated property with a loan that doesn't pencil.
Second issue: Owner-occupant financing is stricter than people think. Most lenders won't touch a house hack if they suspect you'll move out in Year 3 -- they're pricing you as an investor then, which kills your rates and DTI. And if you get honest with them upfront, they won't finance it at all. It's a legal gray area that no lender wants to touch anymore.
Third: The seasoning requirement on refi. You can't pull equity in Year 1 like you could five years ago. Most DSCR lenders now want 6-12 months of actual rent history before they'll touch a refi, which means your capital stays locked up longer. Kills the whole "BRRRR pull-out" play on small deals.
Pro tip: Quote your hard money lender a strict 12-month hold, build in seasoning time from day one, and don't assume you'll refi into a jumbo. What's your target rehab cost on the typical 2-4 unit you're looking at?
Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
7mo
I haven't really seen them die. I think it just depends on your market.
Here in CA, house hacking is not the same as buying a multi-family and living in 1 unit. Usually most people will buy an SFR and rent by the room if they are single or buy an SFR with a larger lot to build an ADU.
Residential and Commercial Broker · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 704 votes
7mo
I haven't seen too many die during processing, but am starting to see more and more fall out due to the newer AVM models lenders are starting to adopt. We are seeing appraisals coming in where they need to be just to see lender's slashing values by as much as 25-30% due to AI modeling... Seeing this in the wholesale and even hard money lending spaces. Just had a $5.25mm appraisal from CBRE, of all places, that was cut down to $4.1mm because AI says so.
I get why any lender would adopt a more conservative modeling, but undercutting appraisers and by that much is overkill. Lately, this new modeling endeavor has been causing more issues that I've seen. Generally, speaking, the markets that have softened, we are seeing softening appraised values as well, but most clients have already adjusted their exits when flipping or planning to rent. Staying up to speed with your markets is key to not getting egg on your face. Adjust as needed and keep adapting when required to.
One other thing I am a but surprised by is how many times I've spoken to other brokers or LOs who see these low fair market rents on the appraisals and don't realize they can submit an ROV to rebuttal the rental comps. You don't have to only rebuttal the value, you can do one or the other or BOTH! We see about 60-70% success on getting some movement when we rebuttal, but many brokers and LO don't seem to realize you can push back on that directly with the appraiser. It literally costs nothing to try an ROV...
Real Estate Consultant · Connecticut Ct · Member since 2026 · 130 posts · 30 votes
7mo
That makes sense — market definitions really matter here.
In higher-cost markets like CA, I've also seen "house hacking" evolve more into SFR + ADU or room-by-room strategies, versus the traditional small multifamily approach that still works well in parts of the Midwest and South.
Curious — are you seeing more borrowers lean toward ADUs primarily for cash flow support, or more as long-term value/appreciation plays?
Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 373 votes
7mo
The #1 reason I see deals die here is overly optimistic DSCR assumptions. Lenders want to see 1.20-1.25x minimum on a 2-4 unit, but investors are modeling at 1.10-1.15x or sometimes ignoring seasoning requirements altogether. That gap kills the whole deal when the lender actually underwrites it.
Second issue is appraisal friction. Small multis appraise inconsistently because there are fewer comps. Your 3-unit in a residential neighborhood might not have solid 3-unit comps nearby, so the appraiser's going to use 1-2 unit sales or worse -- pull from a market comp that doesn't match your situation. You think you're at 75% LTV, appraiser comes in 20% lower, and now you can't hit your numbers.
The third thing that kills deals is hidden seasoning requirements. Owner-occupant or house hack financing looks flexible until you actually call lenders. Most now want proof of occupancy for 6+ months before they'll touch a refi or cash-out scenario. Investors planning a quick house hack flip often don't budget that timeline.
What market are you seeing this play out in, and is it the appraisal variance hitting you, or more the underwriting requirements side?
Real Estate Consultant · Connecticut Ct · Member since 2026 · 130 posts · 30 votes
7mo
I’m seeing a similar pattern in CT, especially on small multifamily and house hacks.
Appraisals and income are coming in tighter than buyers initially expect, and once taxes and insurance are finalized it often pushes DTI/DSCR out of tolerance. In-place rents are carrying a lot more weight than projected upside right now.
From what I’ve seen, the deals that survive in CT are the ones that either underwrite conservatively from day one or have enough margin to absorb those late-stage adjustments.
Real Estate Consultant · Connecticut Ct · Member since 2026 · 130 posts · 30 votes
7mo
Solid points — especially on appraisal friction and overly aggressive rent assumptions killing deals in underwriting.
One nuance worth calling out for the OP: on owner-occupied 2–4 units, lenders typically aren't underwriting strictly to investor-style DSCR thresholds the same way they would on a non-owner deal. Income, reserves, and documented in-place rents tend to matter more than hitting a clean 1.25x on paper.
That said, your appraisal point is dead on. Small multis can get sideways fast when comps don’t line up, and that’s usually where expectations break, not at pre-approval.
In markets like Buffalo with older housing stock, I’ve seen the safest path be properties with existing leases + conservative rent credit so the appraisal and underwriting stay aligned.
Curious in your experience — are you seeing more deals die at value or at rent haircut / seasoning once they hit full underwriting?
Real Estate Consultant · Connecticut Ct · Member since 2026 · 130 posts · 30 votes
7mo
This is a great callout — the AVM/AI overlays are becoming a real friction point, even when the actual appraisal is supportable.
I’m seeing the same thing: value looks reasonable on paper, then a lender’s internal model clips it another 20–30% and the deal breaks at the leverage stage, not because the asset is bad but because the model is conservative by design.
Completely agree on ROVs being underutilized — especially on rent schedules. Too many people assume the appraisal is final when, in reality, well-supported market rent comps and leases can move the needle.
For newer buyers reading this thread, the takeaway is underwriting defensively before contract and knowing where pushback is actually possible (ROV, rent comps) vs. where it usually isn’t (AVM overlays).
Appreciate you sharing real-world examples — this is exactly where deals are getting made or killed right now.
Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
7mo
Most of the requests we get are quite "Pollyanna" with their numbers. Particularly with less experienced investors, most we're seeing underwrite to best-case scenarios without considering vacancy or replacement reserves. I often get "but the listing agent said..." When the numbers on the appraisal don't align, newer investors tend to get upset. More experienced investors tend to be more conservative, but any fallout we see tends to come from the buyer underwriting to very aggressive "potential rents".
Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 373 votes
7mo
The #1 killer right now is appraisal hitting below ARV on value-add deals. Lenders are ordering appraisals on as-is condition, not factoring in the rehab scope you promised them. Then your proforma breaks, DSCR collapses, and you're stuck holding a renovated property with a loan that doesn't pencil.
Second issue: Owner-occupant financing is stricter than people think. Most lenders won't touch a house hack if they suspect you'll move out in Year 3 -- they're pricing you as an investor then, which kills your rates and DTI. And if you get honest with them upfront, they won't finance it at all. It's a legal gray area that no lender wants to touch anymore.
Third: The seasoning requirement on refi. You can't pull equity in Year 1 like you could five years ago. Most DSCR lenders now want 6-12 months of actual rent history before they'll touch a refi, which means your capital stays locked up longer. Kills the whole "BRRRR pull-out" play on small deals.
Pro tip: Quote your hard money lender a strict 12-month hold, build in seasoning time from day one, and don't assume you'll refi into a jumbo. What's your target rehab cost on the typical 2-4 unit you're looking at?
I’ve been seeing a consistent pattern with 2–4 unit deals that look solid on paper but never make it to closing — especially with house hacks and small multifamily.
Between appraisal issues, DSCR assumptions, seasoning, reserve requirements, and owner-occupant nuances, it feels like financing friction is killing more deals than the actual real estate.
For those actively buying, lending, or underwriting in this space:
what’s the #1 reason you’re seeing small MFH deals stall or die right now?
Curious to hear what others are seeing on the ground.
Quite the opposite with me. If I get past the inspection stage, I am 95% sure it will close. This makes sense though with a softening market though. I think this is mostly because the Greater Cincinnati market is old
Real Estate Agent · Temple, TX · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 700 votes
7mo
Honestly? Lately, it’s the insurance re-quotes coming in 3 days before closing.
I've seen three deals in the last month where the numbers worked perfectly on day one, but then the carrier decides the roof age is suddenly an issue or they're pulling out of the zip code. We had a solid 4-plex under contract where the premium jumped from a quoted $12k to $19k during the inspection period. It completely killed the DSCR, and the lender wouldn't budge.
Everyone talks about interest rates, but insurance is the silent deal killer right now. Are you seeing lenders getting pickier about the source of the down payment too? That's been my secondary headache.
Real Estate Consultant · Connecticut Ct · Member since 2026 · 130 posts · 30 votes
7mo
That makes sense, especially in older housing stock markets. Inspection is really the inflection point — once buyers get comfortable with deferred maintenance, deals tend to stick. Appreciate the Cincinnati insight.