Bought Property in 2017, is it too late to start Cost Seg 2023?

Bought Property in 2017, is it too late to start Cost Seg 2023?

Member since 2023 · 8 posts · 4 votes

Hey all,

I bought a property in 2017 and just started understanding what cost segregation is. My question is, is it already too late to start conducting cost segregation on my home for the tax year 2023?

Thank you.

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Michael PlaksPro Member
Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
3y
Quote from @Phil Contreras:

I bought a property in 2017 and just started understanding what cost segregation is. My question is, is it already too late to start conducting cost segregation on my home for the tax year 2023?


We have to assume you are talking about a rental home you bought in 2017 and have been renting since. (If you're talking about your personal home - cost segregation does not apply.)

You can still do cost segregation today and apply it retroactively to 2017. Whether or not it is beneficial to you is case by case.

The process of applying it to the past years is not simple and should not be DIY-ed. This is on top of the cost of cost segregation itself.

Also, read this post for a better understanding of cost segregation: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

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  • Joseph PalmieroBusiness Member
    CPA · PA · Member since 2023 · 151 posts · 115 votes
    3y

    It is not too late for a cost seg.  However, your 5 and 7 year property are already fully depreciated which will decrease the benefit.

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    If it benefits you, you can do the cost seg in 2023 or even 2022 if you amend it. 

    You will have to file Form 3115. Not a DIY project.  

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  • Real Estate Consultant · Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 667 posts · 389 votes
    3y

    @Phil Contreras  The only way to know is to get a no cost pre-analysis on your property. You may or may not be too late. There too many factors to consider. Why guess when all you have to do is answer some questions you already have the answers to. 

  • Member since 2022 · 38 posts · 26 votes
    3y

    Just to clarify your question,  Phil. 

    Are you asking Cost Seg study on your home?!  Your primary residence?  

  • Henry ClarkPro Member
    Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y

    Talk with your cpa. With that said.

    You’re dealing with 15 year lives or less.  Depending on how you did year one, let’s say you have done 5 years of depreciation thru 2022 return.  As mentioned above disregard all asset classes 7 years or earlier.  

    Keep in my cost seg is a cash timing benefit.  Not a tax savings long term.  

    For discussion let’s say a cost study costs you $3,000.  You will lose or spend this money.

    Depending on asset type the building might be depreciated at 27.5 or 39 years.  Let’s use 27.5 for discussion.  

    If your entire asset base excluding land is combined and depreciated at the 27.5 years.  Then cost seg will benefit you in two ways.  

    1.  Either faster depreciation say 5 years versus 27.5. Since you are already past 5 years you would get the majority of the depreciation expenses on your short term assets .

    2.   Or year one write off of the entire short term life categories.

    Your tax preparer will have to file a change in accounting practice.   Also this is the sun setting of the year one depreciation  Will have to see if you get to do 100% or 80% for 2023.

    Before you go through this I would dummy up some numbers to see if it is worth it to you.  On a piece of paper break the asset into categories and discuss with your tax preparer.

    Driveway and parking. $20,000.        

    Landscaping $5,000

    Electric outside. $5,000

    Sewer outside $5.000

    Fencing &10,000

    Personal property furniture etc $20,000

    Hvac $10,000

    Well xxxxx

    Land xxxxx

    Base house. Xxxx

    Etc etc.

    jave them assign life’s to them. And walk you though coat aef impact.  Then tax affect it. Is this cash worth it to you?     

    What is the cost basis of your asset?   Forget depreciation. 

    Driving so the above are

    Broad points. 

  • Michael PlaksPro Member
    Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Phil Contreras:

    I bought a property in 2017 and just started understanding what cost segregation is. My question is, is it already too late to start conducting cost segregation on my home for the tax year 2023?


    We have to assume you are talking about a rental home you bought in 2017 and have been renting since. (If you're talking about your personal home - cost segregation does not apply.)

    You can still do cost segregation today and apply it retroactively to 2017. Whether or not it is beneficial to you is case by case.

    The process of applying it to the past years is not simple and should not be DIY-ed. This is on top of the cost of cost segregation itself.

    Also, read this post for a better understanding of cost segregation: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

  • Julio GonzalezPro Member
    Specialist · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    @Phil Contreras Is this a personal property or a rental property? If it's a rental property, I'd recommend getting a free cost/benefit analysis from a cost segregation company to see if the tax benefits will outweigh the cost of the study.

  • Member since 2023 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    3y

    @Julio Gonzalez it's a rental property. Thanks for the recommendation on the cost of study.

  • Accountant · Member since 2023 · 18 posts · 6 votes
    3y

    @Phil Contreras If it was placed into service from September 2017 and on its eligible for bonus, half the studies i do are lookbacks. We don't charge for the 3115 :)

  • Accountant · Franklin, TN · Member since 2023 · 204 posts · 91 votes
    3y

    It is not too late. Check out 481a adjustments.

  • Attorney · Boston, MA · Member since 2023 · 140 posts · 75 votes
    3y

    @Phil Contreras nope but you’ll need to file a few extra forms

  • Member since 2023 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Joseph Palmiero:

    It is not too late for a cost seg.  However, your 5 and 7 year property are already fully depreciated which will decrease the benefit.


     Thanks for the feedback Joseph.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 667 posts · 389 votes
    3y

    @Phil Contreras Bonus Depreciation was available before September 2017 but it was about 40-50% the year before. Get the estimate and then make the decision with a RE savvy CPA. Later in 2017 it jumped to 100% Bonus through December 2022. 

  • Basit SiddiqiBusiness Member
    Accountant · New York, NY · Member since 2015 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y

    Yes, you can do a cost segregation study on a property placed into service in a prior year.

  • Accountant · Franklin, TN · Member since 2023 · 204 posts · 91 votes
    3y

    Not necessarily. What are some additional details?

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