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Real Estate Professional Status and SE tax

Brady Ascheman
New to Real Estate · Benson, MN · Member since 2021 · 39 posts · 13 votes

Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?

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Stephen Nelson
Accountant , CPA, MBA in Finance, MS in Taxation · Redmond, WA · Member since 2025 · 172 posts · 135 votes
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Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?

Just to clarify something subtle, being a real estate professional doesn't make your rental properties nonpassive. Being a real estate professional just means your rental properties are not automatically passive. This is an important distinction.

Example: You're a self-employed realtor and work full-time. You are a real estate professional because you meet the requirements of Section 469(c)(7). You go out and buy an apartment house and then hire a property manager so you don't have to personally spend time on the property. In this case, your rental property is passive because you lack material participation in the rental activity.

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  • Natalie KolodijBusiness Member
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    Quote from @Brady Ascheman:

    Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?


    It's not true and you may want to find a different CPA. 

    Having Dealer status subjects the income to SE tax; but even then it doesn't apply to the real estate dealer's rental income. (think flips, new construction etc.) 

    Or providing substantial services in conjunction with rental activities can subject to SE tax (hotel like services...room service, daily cleaning, meals, free shuttles etc).

    Being a REP just defaults the classification of the rentals from passive to non-passive. 

    Non-Passive =/= Subject to SE tax by default. 

    Passive vs. non passive is §469 and Self Employment Tax §1402. 


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  • Robere Istatia
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    @Brady Ascheman - No, if you are not offering the guests services that add to their convenience then there is no SE tax. If you are adding convenience services then there will be SE tax. If you are a REP and just collecting rental income there is no SE tax regardless if it is passive or not. @Natalie Kolodij was providing you with examples of services provided that would be adding to the convenience of the guest this they would be subject to SE taxes.

    The key question is are you just collecting rents (no SE tax) or are you adding services (there will be SE tax)

    Hope this helps clarify

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    Accountant , CPA, MBA in Finance, MS in Taxation · Redmond, WA · Member since 2025 · 172 posts · 135 votes
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    Quote from @Brady Ascheman:

    Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?

    Just to clarify something subtle, being a real estate professional doesn't make your rental properties nonpassive. Being a real estate professional just means your rental properties are not automatically passive. This is an important distinction.

    Example:     You're a self-employed realtor and work full-time. You are a real estate professional because you meet the requirements of Section 469(c)(7). You go out and buy an apartment house and then hire a property manager so you don't have to personally spend time on the property. In this case, your rental property is passive because you lack material participation in the rental activity.

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  • Michael PlaksPro Member
    Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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    Quote from @Brady Ascheman:

    Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?

    This advice is incorrect, as pointed out by several of my colleagues. But let me clarify another critical point that you seem to miss.

    When you have rental properties, your rent income ("gross income") does not matter for taxes. What matters is whatever number you have after subtracting from your rent all expenses, including depreciation ("net income"). You can end up with net income or, as is very common for rental properties, with net loss. Which is the result of applying depreciation: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/51/topics/1121063-expla...

    Real Estate Professional Status (REPS) is used when you have net losses and need a way to deduct these losses against your non-rental income. Normally there're restrictions on these losses, and REPS can defeat these limitations, providing that you qualify for REPS.

    Self-employment tax applies to net income. So, even if self-employment tax applied to rental properties (and it does not) - you would have still had zero SE tax because you have net loss, not net income. And SE tax never applies to rentals anyway, so you have two reasons to not worry about it.

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    @Brady Ascheman Your CPA's advice contains a common misconception. Gaining Real Estate Professional Status (REPS) under IRS rules allows rental losses to offset ordinary income if you materially participate, but it does not automatically make rental income subject to self-employment tax (SE tax). Rental income is generally considered passive and not subject to SE tax, even if you qualify as a real estate professional. However, if you provide substantial services—like managing short-term rentals similar to a hotel—then income could be classified as earned income and subject to SE tax.

    The primary benefit of REPS is the ability to deduct real estate losses against W-2 or other active income, reducing taxable income significantly. This can be especially valuable for high-income earners who actively manage their properties. If your rental activities remain passive (e.g., long-term rentals with standard landlord responsibilities), rental income remains exempt from SE tax. To ensure correct classification, consult a real estate tax expert to optimize deductions and compliance.

    This post does not create a CPA-Client relationship. The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon. Readers should seek professional advice.

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  • Sean GrahamBusiness Member
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    Quote from @Brady Ascheman:

    Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?


    There is not self-employment tax on real estate whether you are using REPS or STR Loophole. It all still goes on Schedule E.

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  • Mohamed YoussefBusiness Member
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    Quote from @Brady Ascheman:

    Hi everyone, when meeting with my CPA recently I was instructed by here that if you obtain "Real Estate Professional Status" as per the IRS rules then your rental income become "active" instead of "passive" income in the eyes of the IRS. She then stated that when it becomes active income it is subject to the 15.3% self-employment tax. I wanted to get some insight from others on if this is true since I can't find a good answer on the IRS website, and if it is true why does anyone want to gain real estate professional status?

     @Brady Ascheman If the activity is reported on schedule E, which is the case with real estate professional status, then there is no self-employment tax. Just income tax.

    If the activity is reported on Schedule C, then most likely you will have to pay self-employment tax and income tax.

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  • Aaron ZimmermanBusiness Member
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    Rentals would not be subject to SE tax.

    However, if you’re a real estate broker or active trade or business, then you may be subject to SE tax depending on entity structure (just like a normal business). Rentals would not be subject to SE tax in this situation though. 

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  • Rohullah Sharifi
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    If you are actively engaged in the real estate business—such as rental property ownership, real estate investment, and property management—and you meet the material participation test, your activities may qualify you as a real estate professional for tax purposes. In this situation, where there is no W-2 job or other earned income, the net income from real estate operations could be treated as subject to self-employment tax (FICA).

    It is therefore essential to maintain accurate and detailed records documenting your level of participation, income, expenses, and management activities. Proper recordkeeping not only supports compliance with IRS requirements but also strengthens your position in the event of an audit.

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      Quote from @Rohullah Sharifi:

      If you are actively engaged in the real estate business—such as rental property ownership, real estate investment, and property management—and you meet the material participation test, your activities may qualify you as a real estate professional for tax purposes. In this situation, where there is no W-2 job or other earned income, the net income from real estate operations could be treated as subject to self-employment tax (FICA).

      It is therefore essential to maintain accurate and detailed records documenting your level of participation, income, expenses, and management activities. Proper recordkeeping not only supports compliance with IRS requirements but also strengthens your position in the event of an audit.


      This is unfortunately incorrect. 

      Real estate professional status does not subject someone to self employment tax. 

      SE Tax is is a separate code section under 1402 not 469. Whether a rental activity is subject to self-employment tax is dependent on the level of services provided in conjunction with the rental property, not if the taxpayer is a real estate professional or not. 
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    • Rohullah Sharifi
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      Quote from @Natalie Kolodij:
      Quote from @Rohullah Sharifi:

      If you are actively engaged in the real estate business—such as rental property ownership, real estate investment, and property management—and you meet the material participation test, your activities may qualify you as a real estate professional for tax purposes. In this situation, where there is no W-2 job or other earned income, the net income from real estate operations could be treated as subject to self-employment tax (FICA).

      It is therefore essential to maintain accurate and detailed records documenting your level of participation, income, expenses, and management activities. Proper recordkeeping not only supports compliance with IRS requirements but also strengthens your position in the event of an audit.


      This is unfortunately incorrect. 

      Real estate professional status does not subject someone to self employment tax. 

      SE Tax is is a separate code section under 1402 not 469. Whether a rental activity is subject to self-employment tax is dependent on the level of services provided in conjunction with the rental property, not if the taxpayer is a real estate professional or not. 

       no actively participate, main source of income, no w2 job, then, the income is active income and mostly get 1099, which is qualify for the SE taxes. 

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      Quote from @Rohullah Sharifi:
      Quote from @Natalie Kolodij:
      Quote from @Rohullah Sharifi:

      If you are actively engaged in the real estate business—such as rental property ownership, real estate investment, and property management—and you meet the material participation test, your activities may qualify you as a real estate professional for tax purposes. In this situation, where there is no W-2 job or other earned income, the net income from real estate operations could be treated as subject to self-employment tax (FICA).

      It is therefore essential to maintain accurate and detailed records documenting your level of participation, income, expenses, and management activities. Proper recordkeeping not only supports compliance with IRS requirements but also strengthens your position in the event of an audit.


      This is unfortunately incorrect. 

      Real estate professional status does not subject someone to self employment tax. 

      SE Tax is is a separate code section under 1402 not 469. Whether a rental activity is subject to self-employment tax is dependent on the level of services provided in conjunction with the rental property, not if the taxpayer is a real estate professional or not. 

       no actively participate, main source of income, no w2 job, then, the income is active income and mostly get 1099, which is qualify for the SE taxes. 


       That is just not true. 

      It seems like you may be mixing together a few different concepts - but someone qualifying a a real estate professional under 469(c)(7) does not default their rental income to Ordinary income subject to SE tax. 

      Below is the tax code section on this - 

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.1402(a)-4

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      Quote from @Natalie Kolodij:
      Quote from @Rohullah Sharifi:

      If you are actively engaged in the real estate business—such as rental property ownership, real estate investment, and property management—and you meet the material participation test, your activities may qualify you as a real estate professional for tax purposes. In this situation, where there is no W-2 job or other earned income, the net income from real estate operations could be treated as subject to self-employment tax (FICA).

      It is therefore essential to maintain accurate and detailed records documenting your level of participation, income, expenses, and management activities. Proper recordkeeping not only supports compliance with IRS requirements but also strengthens your position in the event of an audit.


      This is unfortunately incorrect. 

      Real estate professional status does not subject someone to self employment tax. 

      SE Tax is is a separate code section under 1402 not 469. Whether a rental activity is subject to self-employment tax is dependent on the level of services provided in conjunction with the rental property, not if the taxpayer is a real estate professional or not. 

      Doesn't what your intentions are for the property, play a role?

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      Quote from @Ken M.:
      Quote from @Natalie Kolodij:
      Quote from @Rohullah Sharifi:

      If you are actively engaged in the real estate business—such as rental property ownership, real estate investment, and property management—and you meet the material participation test, your activities may qualify you as a real estate professional for tax purposes. In this situation, where there is no W-2 job or other earned income, the net income from real estate operations could be treated as subject to self-employment tax (FICA).

      It is therefore essential to maintain accurate and detailed records documenting your level of participation, income, expenses, and management activities. Proper recordkeeping not only supports compliance with IRS requirements but also strengthens your position in the event of an audit.


      This is unfortunately incorrect. 

      Real estate professional status does not subject someone to self employment tax. 

      SE Tax is is a separate code section under 1402 not 469. Whether a rental activity is subject to self-employment tax is dependent on the level of services provided in conjunction with the rental property, not if the taxpayer is a real estate professional or not. 

      Doesn't what your intentions are for the property, play a role?


       If the intention is to buy property to re-sell it for profit then yes; we're looking more toward dealer status and SE tax. That's an ordinary business activity. 

      But if someone is just holding rentals; and not providing hotel-like services- 

      Them being a REP, flipping other houses, being a developer, being an agent etc....

      Does not make the rents from those unrelated rentals subject to SE tax. 

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  • Basit SiddiqiBusiness Member
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    it appears that your accountant is not familiar with real estate taxation.

    Being a real estate professional does not make your activity subject to self-employment taxes.

    You may want to consider looking for a new accontant.

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