Are STR's good real estate investments for returns?

Are STR's good real estate investments for returns?

Member since 2024 · 86 posts · 69 votes

After 5 years of searching for a STR that had what I considered the components needed for success: vacation/tourist location and seasons, property curb appeal, size and etc. I found one. I purchased it early this year and after a four-month complete rehab/updating it has been available to rent through a property management company specializing in vacation rentals in this area. The property has been rented through Airbnb, VRBO and the manager's website and has obtained about a 60% occupancy from June to Sept. It has been pretty quiet in Oct. and Nov. and I will close it down after Jan. until April. I think that the occupancy has been pretty decent for a first year and maybe the second year will see closer to 100% for the rental season. It does seem that everyone has their hand in "my pie" with all of the rental management fees and taxes on STR's by every jurisdiction which in total amount to over 25% of income.

The returns on investment are pretty weak in my experience. I think that with full occupancy it might achieve a $25K net rental income and from that RE taxes, insurance, utilities and other expenses need to be deducted. These would add up to about $5K for a net of about $20K. My $400 K investment would yield about 5% and the yield on the $600K equity of 3.3%. Luckily, I did well on the purchase and rehab with a pre-tax yield of almost 43%. But to consider purchasing just for the STR investment I wouldn't even consider it a good place to park money unless I was planning to live there for the non-tourist months and move out for the seasonal rental. Otherwise, I will season the property for 24 months to gain capital gains status and use a 1031 Tax Deferred Exchange to a better returning property type like commercial or maybe just more fix and flips. I am not impressed with STR investments as a means to reasonable returns on investment.

Am I missing something here?   

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John UnderwoodPro Member
Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
10mo

Your not missing anything. STR'S are more work and in many cases your ROI can be better with a LTR, especially after you figure in your time.

There people doing well because they bought at a great price or have a gem of a property in a great area. 

Saturation has hurt many areas that were once highly sought after.

Our Lake House does really well because we bought it 10 years ago and we can do much better on margins that someone buying a lake house at 3x what we paid.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Louisiana · Member since 2017 · 215 posts · 149 votes
    10mo

    STR aren't as lucrative as they used to be. You need to find a real good deal to achieve numbers like we used to see. That being said, when you find a "gem" you'll still want to give it a year or so in order to get established & begin really producing. I always buy with the intention that year 1 will be a write off. If I make a little money, great but I am not expecting it.

  • Real Estate Agent · Colorado | stan.store/JamesCarlson · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10mo

    The STR world here in Colorado and it seems everywhere in the country is a tough one. Supply remains high from Covid-era buying of second homes/STRs, which pushes down revenue. Mortgage rates and higher prices remain, which push up the cost side.

    To kill it as an investment, you've got to bring your A-game in all realms. The good-enough Airbnb just doesn't seem to do that well anymore. 

    Or, like many of my clients in Colorado, you've got dual goals -- second home to enjoy and partially investment property to cover costs. 

    Good for you for taking the leap. It might not be what you want and maybe you've got to pivot now, but so many people don't even find that out for themselves. 

    • Member since 2024 · 86 posts · 69 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @James Carlson:

      The STR world here in Colorado and it seems everywhere in the country is a tough one. Supply remains high from Covid-era buying of second homes/STRs, which pushes down revenue. Mortgage rates and higher prices remain, which push up the cost side.

      To kill it as an investment, you've got to bring your A-game in all realms. The good-enough Airbnb just doesn't seem to do that well anymore. 

      Or, like many of my clients in Colorado, you've got dual goals -- second home to enjoy and partially investment property to cover costs. 

      Good for you for taking the leap. It might not be what you want and maybe you've got to pivot now, but so many people don't even find that out for themselves. 


  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    10mo

    What is the PM charging you? Not they taxes.

    That is usually a profit killer.

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    10mo

    Your not missing anything. STR'S are more work and in many cases your ROI can be better with a LTR, especially after you figure in your time.

    There people doing well because they bought at a great price or have a gem of a property in a great area. 

    Saturation has hurt many areas that were once highly sought after.

    Our Lake House does really well because we bought it 10 years ago and we can do much better on margins that someone buying a lake house at 3x what we paid.

  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    10mo

    Asking if a short term rental is a good investment is like asking if the stock market is a good investment.  It depends on what you buy.  You aren't investing in the short-term rental market, you are investing in one property.  

    All of mine do just fine. Did I get good deals on them?  Yes, but if you're going to make good money on any investment, you have to find a good deal.  

  • Investor · Plymouth, MN · Member since 2020 · 157 posts · 102 votes
    10mo

    As others have said, STRs are typically not as good as they used to be... saturated markets can drive ADRs down and in many areas tourist is down.

    However, there are still some good markets.  I just posted a link to a new development project in one of these good markets in the Classified forum.  This is my favorite small island - Isla Mujeres, Mexico.  It is a small island, without a lot of space to build, and great tourist destination.  The numbers at our existing place are excellent.  

    The key nowadays is to find something unique or in a very constrained market.

    • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Alex F.:

      As others have said, STRs are typically not as good as they used to be... saturated markets can drive ADRs down and in many areas tourist is down.

      However, there are still some good markets.  I just posted a link to a new development project in one of these good markets in the Classified forum.  This is my favorite small island - Isla Mujeres, Mexico.  It is a small island, without a lot of space to build, and great tourist destination.  The numbers at our existing place are excellent.  

      The key nowadays is to find something unique or in a very constrained market

      "The key nowadays is to find something unique or in a very constrained market."
      Agree I like an area that is self-limited by the amount of prime land. 
  • Mike GrudzienPro Member
    Lender · Eugene, OR · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10mo

    I really like Collin Hayes comment: "Asking if a short term rental is a good investment is like asking if the stock market is a good investment."
    Spot on, as always.  It's all in the numbers.  And yes, the markets have changed: competition, saturation, travel volume, etc.


  • Arman AhmedPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2024 · 2k+ posts · 953 votes
    10mo

    @Wade Wisner

    Great breakdown, Wade. You’re not missing much — STRs just aren’t producing the returns they used to. Between rising regulations, taxes, management fees, seasonal demand, and heavy competition, margins get squeezed fast. Your numbers are actually decent for a first year, but a stabilized 3–5% return is why a lot of investors I work with end up shifting to long-term rentals, small commercial, or value-add deals that offer stronger and more predictable cash flow. Your plan to season the property for 24 months and 1031 into a better-performing asset is what many smart investors are doing right now.

  • Contractor · Sheboygan, WI · Member since 2016 · 921 posts · 266 votes
    10mo

    @Wade Wisner it seems that you did not run the “ numbers”, cash on cash projections, before purchasing this property. You stated you had $400k investment and $600k equity. You bought a property worth $ 1 million that you can t net $100k on?

  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10mo

    1. This definitely sounds reasonable, depending on your market and the what your PM is charging.  Full service management is often 20% which will often take most if not all of your profit.  This is one of 2 reasons why I as a manager began offering a limited 10% option which not only allows for material participation but also helps still deliver a measurable profit.

    2. Most of my clients who made the purchase through me and then the ensuing management fall in the following buckets a) Second home owners - people who want to have a home with personal use and can still break even or make a little money b) tax buyers - looking to offset income with some cashflow and future appreciation c) true pure investors. The last category is a bit of a dying breed in the STR world from what I see.

    3. The returns are dependent on the property, here in Tampa usually the higher returns are made with the larger more unique properties.  Having a run of the mill 3/2 without a pool for example likely will struggle.

  • Travis TimmonsPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ellsworth, ME · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10mo

    There's just no way to make any cash on cash return if you are paying a management company. If you think about it, that's kind of the way it should and the market is functioning efficiently. If you can buy a vacation home, pay someone to manage it, and still clear a profit, I think every rich guy in the country would sign up for that. 

    I kind of look at STRs as a way to own a really good asset and not lose money more than a way to make income in the current market. 

    Or if you can do some blocking and tackling to get cash flow, and STR as a strategy helps you make enough money to get by in the meantime, that's a viable option. Our last two STR projects were a 3/1.5 lake house with the goal of converting the half bath into a full bath and a live-in rehab on 5 acres that can be parceled off into 3 additional lots to build on. On the other side a lot of patience and work, there will be significant cash flow...nothing out there where you can walk into 10-15-20% cash on cash after just furnishing the place as I see it (even if you self manage).

  • Real Estate Investor · Saint Paul, MN · Member since 2017 · 543 posts · 474 votes
    10mo

    @Wade Wisner in addition to all the other good comments, people fail to realize that the short term rental business is really a hospitality business more than a real estate investment. And succeeding in hospitality takes a a lot more effort than simply buying property.

    • Collin HaysBusiness Member
      Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Mark S.:

      @Wade Wisner in addition to all the other good comments, people fail to realize that the short term rental business is really a hospitality business more than a real estate investment. And succeeding in hospitality takes a a lot more effort than simply buying property.


       Bingo. Short Term Rentals are small hotels.  

  • Real Estate Investor · Saint Paul, MN · Member since 2017 · 543 posts · 474 votes
    10mo

    @Wade Wisner in addition to all the other good comments, people fail to realize that the short term rental business is really a hospitality business more than a real estate investment. And succeeding in hospitality takes a a lot more effort than simply buying property. We’ve come through a period where the ‘gurus’ touted it as an easy way to make a lot of money and leave your W-2 job behind. Unless you were fortunate enough to buy a handful of properties in great markets years ago, that’s not likely to happen. 

  • John MorganPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10mo

    My very first rental property I bought 10 years ago is a STR in Branson, MO and is my worst performing property out of 31 SFR I've got now. lol. It's worth almost 3X's what I paid for it (paid 130k and worth 360k now) and it's only making $500/month profit. I am paying a PM 25% to keep it 100% passive. It's my only STR and I wouldn't invest in another. It's fun to visit once a year so we'll probably keep it. But I could have done MUCH better investing in something else.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    10mo

    I found that the only way to make good money on my STRs was to be completely hands-on.....meaning that I did my own remodel/repairs, booking, cleaning....everything. If you are having a PM, cleaners, handymen, etc....cutting into your profit, then, of course you are going to have a slim profit margin.

    Of course this is true of LTRs as well....

  • Member since 2024 · 86 posts · 69 votes
    10mo

    Thanks so much for all of the responses and feedback. I like to try different real estate investment products to see for myself whether they are cash cows or drains. This one is mostly a drain, but I bought it with my usual approach, which is based on the ARV value and working backward to the as is value. In this case the ARV if $600K and I have about $410K into it with furnishings. So no matter what the STR returns looks like I made about 45% on the rehab, which is the focus of most of my investments - value added.

    I also have multiple exit plans in any real estate investment and in this case have 3 or 4 - Keep it as a STR, Move into the property for part of the year and STR for the season, Resell and pay the tax on the gain, sell and take-back a mortgage for a well-heeled buyer or 1031 Exchange to a better property type. All Good!

    Thanks again for the feedback. You have confirmed what I am seeing and I probably will not do another STR unless it is a really good deal and I just can't walk away from it.

  • Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 292 votes
    10mo

    You're not missing anything. The STR market is saturated, and margins just aren't what they used to be. Even with good occupancy, fees, taxes, and seasonality cut deep into profits. And if you do want to squeeze out more income, it usually requires being far more hands-on with management, pricing, and guest experience.

  • Camren BerryPro Member
    AZ · Member since 2021 · 86 posts · 14 votes
    10mo

    this is the part most people don’t talk about with STRs. Between management fees, local taxes, and seasonality, the net yields can feel pretty underwhelming unless you’re in an A+ market or self-managing. Your numbers actually look better than a lot I’ve seen.

    If your goal is better ROI with less volatility, you're definitely thinking in the right direction with shifting into long-term rentals or commercial. That's exactly the space I work in. I help investors get into buy-and-hold rentals with no money down as long as they've got strong credit. It tends to produce much more predictable returns without all the moving parts STRs have.

    If you're curious what those numbers might look like compared to your STR, happy to show you some examples or run scenarios with your criteria

  • Lender · Chicago, IL · Member since 2025 · 204 posts · 101 votes
    10mo

    The fact that you're analyzing the numbers this closely already puts you ahead of many STR investors. A lot of people jump into short-term rentals for the hype, but you're looking at the real performance — and that's how smart investors make their next move. Based on my experience working with real estate investors on the mortgage side, what you're seeing aligns with today's STR landscape.

    Here’s how your situation fits with what I see every day:

    1. The fees take a bigger bite than most expect.
      Management fees, platform fees, STR taxes, insurance, utilities, and maintenance can easily take 25–30% of your revenue before true cash flow is even calculated.

    2. Seasonality heavily impacts annual returns.
      Strong summer occupancy is great, but October through April can be slow in many markets. That seasonal dip has a major impact on your yearly profit.

    3. A 5% annual return on a $400K STR is realistic in today's environment.
      Most STR owners using property management land in the 5–8% range after all expenses. Unless you purchased well under market or plan to use the property personally, STRs rarely produce the high returns they once did.

    4. Your real win came from buying right and rehabbing well.
      That 43% pre-tax return created through acquisition and renovations is impressive. That's exactly how the savvier STR investors still make these deals work. The cash flow is simply a bonus.

    5. Your plan to hold for 24 months and use a 1031 exchange is a strong strategy.
      Many seasoned investors stabilize the STR, then exchange into a higher-yielding asset like commercial, multifamily, or value-add deals that offer better long-term performance.

    Here’s an example:
    I worked with an investor who bought a $500K mountain STR. After cleaning fees, STR taxes, management, and utilities, they netted around $22K annually — roughly a 4–5% return. Beautiful property, but weak performance. After seasoning it, they executed a 1031 exchange into an eight-unit multifamily building that now nets about 11% annually with far less volatility.

    And here’s something I always remind investors:
    Working with the right mortgage professional truly makes a difference. You want someone who understands investment strategies, can walk you through financing options, and helps you structure loans in a way that supports your long-term goals. Not all lenders have experience with investors, and choosing the wrong one can cost you both time and money. The right mortgage partner helps you avoid mistakes and positions your portfolio for growth.

    You're on the right track, and the way you're evaluating this STR shows you're thinking like a long-term investor setting up your next profitable move.

    • Collin HaysBusiness Member
      Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Ebonie Beaco:

      The fact that you're analyzing the numbers this closely already puts you ahead of many STR investors. A lot of people jump into short-term rentals for the hype, but you're looking at the real performance — and that's how smart investors make their next move. Based on my experience working with real estate investors on the mortgage side, what you're seeing aligns with today's STR landscape.

      Here’s how your situation fits with what I see every day:

      1. The fees take a bigger bite than most expect.
        Management fees, platform fees, STR taxes, insurance, utilities, and maintenance can easily take 25–30% of your revenue before true cash flow is even calculated.

      2. Seasonality heavily impacts annual returns.
        Strong summer occupancy is great, but October through April can be slow in many markets. That seasonal dip has a major impact on your yearly profit.

      3. A 5% annual return on a $400K STR is realistic in today's environment.
        Most STR owners using property management land in the 5–8% range after all expenses. Unless you purchased well under market or plan to use the property personally, STRs rarely produce the high returns they once did.

      4. Your real win came from buying right and rehabbing well.
        That 43% pre-tax return created through acquisition and renovations is impressive. That's exactly how the savvier STR investors still make these deals work. The cash flow is simply a bonus.

      5. Your plan to hold for 24 months and use a 1031 exchange is a strong strategy.
        Many seasoned investors stabilize the STR, then exchange into a higher-yielding asset like commercial, multifamily, or value-add deals that offer better long-term performance.

      Here’s an example:
      I worked with an investor who bought a $500K mountain STR. After cleaning fees, STR taxes, management, and utilities, they netted around $22K annually — roughly a 4–5% return. Beautiful property, but weak performance. After seasoning it, they executed a 1031 exchange into an eight-unit multifamily building that now nets about 11% annually with far less volatility.

      And here’s something I always remind investors:
      Working with the right mortgage professional truly makes a difference. You want someone who understands investment strategies, can walk you through financing options, and helps you structure loans in a way that supports your long-term goals. Not all lenders have experience with investors, and choosing the wrong one can cost you both time and money. The right mortgage partner helps you avoid mistakes and positions your portfolio for growth.

      You're on the right track, and the way you're evaluating this STR shows you're thinking like a long-term investor setting up your next profitable move.


      Really good stuff here. I might add that STRs were producing crazy high returns for a very short period of time. There were several factors that caused it, but it was a bubble that burst.

    • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Collin Hays:
      Quote from @Ebonie Beaco:

      The fact that you're analyzing the numbers this closely already puts you ahead of many STR investors. A lot of people jump into short-term rentals for the hype, but you're looking at the real performance — and that's how smart investors make their next move. Based on my experience working with real estate investors on the mortgage side, what you're seeing aligns with today's STR landscape.

      Here’s how your situation fits with what I see every day:

      1. The fees take a bigger bite than most expect.
        Management fees, platform fees, STR taxes, insurance, utilities, and maintenance can easily take 25–30% of your revenue before true cash flow is even calculated.

      2. Seasonality heavily impacts annual returns.
        Strong summer occupancy is great, but October through April can be slow in many markets. That seasonal dip has a major impact on your yearly profit.

      3. A 5% annual return on a $400K STR is realistic in today's environment.
        Most STR owners using property management land in the 5–8% range after all expenses. Unless you purchased well under market or plan to use the property personally, STRs rarely produce the high returns they once did.

      4. Your real win came from buying right and rehabbing well.
        That 43% pre-tax return created through acquisition and renovations is impressive. That's exactly how the savvier STR investors still make these deals work. The cash flow is simply a bonus.

      5. Your plan to hold for 24 months and use a 1031 exchange is a strong strategy.
        Many seasoned investors stabilize the STR, then exchange into a higher-yielding asset like commercial, multifamily, or value-add deals that offer better long-term performance.

      Here’s an example:
      I worked with an investor who bought a $500K mountain STR. After cleaning fees, STR taxes, management, and utilities, they netted around $22K annually — roughly a 4–5% return. Beautiful property, but weak performance. After seasoning it, they executed a 1031 exchange into an eight-unit multifamily building that now nets about 11% annually with far less volatility.

      And here’s something I always remind investors:
      Working with the right mortgage professional truly makes a difference. You want someone who understands investment strategies, can walk you through financing options, and helps you structure loans in a way that supports your long-term goals. Not all lenders have experience with investors, and choosing the wrong one can cost you both time and money. The right mortgage partner helps you avoid mistakes and positions your portfolio for growth.

      You're on the right track, and the way you're evaluating this STR shows you're thinking like a long-term investor setting up your next profitable move.


      Really good stuff here. I might add that STRs were producing crazy high returns for a very short period of time. There were several factors that caused it, but it was a bubble that burst.

      I think this is why, as with most RE, the folks who have reasonable expectations, buy smart, consider the variety of financial advantages and are in it for the long haul will continue to do well overall. 

  • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10mo

    Great points @Ebonie Beaco Based on my investment goals a yearly net of 3-5% on STR in addition to tax advantages, anticipated appreciation and some personal time there is a win. I have plenty in TSM index funds to balance out the risks vs rewards.

  • Investor · FL · Member since 2016 · 332 posts · 388 votes
    10mo

    One part not talked about is how interest rates are currently killing the STR returns people use to get.

    Case study:

    A $1M property on a 2.75% loan bought in 2021. If you bought the same property in the past year at the same cost the interest rate would be 7% to 8%. That is close to a 5% increase in APR and almost a $40k a year more in interest. It turns a good return into a property making a meager return.

    You can't control much on the interest rates, so instead now you really have to control the purchase price to get the ROI needed.

    I expect rates to drop another 1% to 1.5% by the end of 2026 with the new feds and new fed chair. Refis will happen for alot of properties bought by investors in the past 36 months and ROI will increase for owners.

    If you agree that interest rates will drop then now is a good time to buy properties at a discount knowing the first year's return will be less, but in the long term a good investment.

    • Member since 2024 · 86 posts · 69 votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Account Closed:

      Thanks Chris for your comments.  I am typically a cash investor so debt service is not and expense that I track, but of course my $$'s have value.  If what you are predicting with interest rates decreasing going forward that could play into my plan of selling with a 1031 Exchange in the beginning of 2027.  Cheaper cost for the buyer and maybe some appreciation for me.  Lower interest rates would certainly help with my sale at that time.  Wade

  • Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10mo

    What market is this? If it is a tourist destination with high demand you should be able to get closer to 80%+ in high season. If it's super high demand push for 1 week minimums or at least 3-4 night minimums over weekends during high season. Loosen up the discounts during the shoulder season. 

    You may want to consider self management, find cleaners on Turno and you'll be most of the way there. Whoever you used for the renovation should be able to be a handyman or at least refer you to someone. 

    Otherwise no, you aren't missing anything. STR is death by a thousand paper cuts, you are constantly getting nickel and dimed. However the returns are pretty solid if you buy right.

    • Member since 2024 · 86 posts · 69 votes
      10mo

      Hey Jon, Thanks for your comments. This is Chincoteague Island in VA. Very much a tourist destination and yes with the second year of rental I would expect closer to 90% occupancy during the summer months. We already reduce the rate and term (1 wk. min in summer, 3 days in off-season). As STR's rentals are in my mind hospitality and not real estate I have hired a local property manager who has about 100 vacation homes on the Island and does a good job at a reasonable rate of 16%. They also absorb the rental fees from Airbnb and other online venues, that come so I am in as good a position there as I can be. I handle any property maintenance, repairs, lawn mowing, landscaping while they handle the leasing and cleaning.

      Overall, It has been and interesting experiment, but the returns are just not what I am used to or want so I am planning my exit to a better investment.  

    • Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Wade Wisner:

      Hey Jon, Thanks for your comments. This is Chincoteague Island in VA. Very much a tourist destination and yes with the second year of rental I would expect closer to 90% occupancy during the summer months. We already reduce the rate and term (1 wk. min in summer, 3 days in off-season). As STR's rentals are in my mind hospitality and not real estate I have hired a local property manager who has about 100 vacation homes on the Island and does a good job at a reasonable rate of 16%. They also absorb the rental fees from Airbnb and other online venues, that come so I am in as good a position there as I can be. I handle any property maintenance, repairs, lawn mowing, landscaping while they handle the leasing and cleaning.

      Overall, It has been and interesting experiment, but the returns are just not what I am used to or want so I am planning my exit to a better investment.  

      Yes, property management fees are especially tough because they come right off the top line. There simply is not much meat on the bone left after 15-20%+ of total revenue and all other expenses are deducted. You need north of 25% revenue/year relative to purchase price to have anything significant left with those kind of fees. 

      Don't let self management scare you, it really is the only way. If you are willing to do the maintenance, all you really need is a cleaner. The platforms do the hardest work, which is getting eyeballs on your property. 

  • Contractor · Sheboygan, WI · Member since 2016 · 921 posts · 266 votes
    10mo

    @John Morganwhy don’t you triple net lease (30 yr)the property to a management company for $20k per year? Sell the furniture to them. 

    How many beds and bathrooms?

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10mo

    You're not wrong, @Wade Wisner, purely from a cash-on-cash standpoint, STRs look a lot less attractive today once you layer in management fees, cleaning, platform fees, and local STR taxes. The part many investors don't factor in is the tax side. In years where you do a rehab, a cost seg, or major improvements, STRs can generate very large first-year deductions, and because STRs don't require REPS to be non-passive, those losses can often offset W2 or business income if you materially participate. That's where most of the "returns" come from for STR owners, not just the cash flow. But once you get past the first year or two, if the income isn't strong enough for you, your plan to season for long-term capital gains and 1031 into something with better yield is a perfectly solid move. The numbers you're running make sense and you aren't missing anything, it just depends on whether the tax benefits in the early years justify holding the asset long-term.

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  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10mo

    You’re not wrong, @Wade Wisner, purely from a cash-on-cash standpoint, STRs look a lot less attractive today once you layer in management fees, cleaning, platform fees, and local STR taxes. The part many investors don't factor in is the tax side. In years where you do a rehab, a cost seg, or major improvements, STRs can generate very large first-year deductions, and because STRs don't require REPS to be non-passive, those losses can often offset W2 or business income if you materially participate. That's where most of the "returns" come from for STR owners, not just the cash flow. But once you get past the first year or two, if the income isn't strong enough for you, your plan to season for long-term capital gains and 1031 into something with better yield is a perfectly solid move. The numbers you're running make sense and you aren't missing anything, it just depends on whether the tax benefits in the early years justify holding the asset long-term.

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