New Member from Glendora, CA (Los Angeles)

New Member from Glendora, CA (Los Angeles)

Investor · Glendora, CA · Member since 2016 · 41 posts · 72 votes

Hi BP people!

My name's Jonathan, and I'm a father of 3 kids (6, 4, 2) with 1 more due this October. Yes, they're cute (and of course, I'm biased :) ):

I'm also a co-owner in a design/web/strategy business that's been going strong for 16 years--and we've also branched out to work with smaller scale web projects recently.

My business has allowed us to let my wife be a stay-at-home mom, and live in a great city outside of LA with one of the best local school systems.

Currently, our net worth is tied up in a pretty big chunk of equity in our Glendora home (bought it 10 years ago, and have it on a 15 yr fixed now), and a large of amount of stocks (that have done very well for us) we invested while my wife worked in Starbucks corporate for 10 years.

So, now I'm looking to diversify and increase cash flow by purchasing 1 or 2 SFH rentals this year.

But not here in Glendora. Or within 40 miles of my home. The ROI on buying a SFH around here just doesn't make sense to me--on larger MFH, you might be able to find something, but I don't have _that_ much to invest.

So, I'm looking out of state for my first investment to purchase in cash and see a small start to additional monthly cash flow, rather than letting the equity in my primary residence sit and do nothing for me.

I've spent the last couple months listening to BP podcasts, reading a couple books, picking the brain of a realtor friend, talking to a mortgage broker, discussing investment accounting practices with my CPA (which, once again, confirmed to me how absolutely stupid and suffocating California's tax code is), and talked to a couple turnkey providers.

I'm getting close to feeling comfortable in purchasing my first investment. But I'm going to wait for the best opportunity... I just hope it comes before I have to pay for my 3 year old's preschool bill! :)

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Bakersfield, CA · Member since 2016 · 378 posts · 307 votes
10y

Bakersfield has great cash flow, likely some of the best in the state. My investor clients are pretty much all from Los Angeles, San Diego, or San Francisco areas where the high costs to purchase simply do not justify the comparative rent values, so they buy rental properties here in Bakersfield. The reason is that it's very inexpensive to purchase SFRs and multi-units here, yet the rental values are relatively high compared to what it costs to buy. This combo obviously makes for a great cash flow investment. If you are 100% set on buying an SFR, go for it. But, I'd highly consider a multi-unit like a triplex or fourplex. There are several B-class neighborhoods here in Bakersfield that you can get a SFR for $100 a sq ft, yet you can buy a triplex that is literally next door for $80 a sq ft. Not only is it cheaper "per square foot" to buy a multi-unit in any given neighborhood, you are also making three separate rents so the overall cash flow (after you pay your mortgage payment and other expenses) is always much higher on a multi-unit. Other areas may vary, but that's how it is here in Bakersfield...

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  • Investor · Glendora, CA · Member since 2016 · 41 posts · 72 votes
    10y

    Thanks for the welcome, @Tom Ott! Looks like you're based out of Northern Ohio, right?  I spent most of my schooling years in Grove City, PA, and spent many summers aching for that one day we could make it to Cedar Point (and would often head over to Youngstown too).

    I'll keep you in mind when I'm ready to move forward with a purchase to pick your mind and see what you have to offer!

  • Equity Raiser and Turnkey Provider · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Jonathan Watson:

    Thanks for the welcome, @Tom Ott! Looks like you're based out of Northern Ohio, right?  I spent most of my schooling years in Grove City, PA, and spent many summers aching for that one day we could make it to Cedar Point (and would often head over to Youngstown too).

    I'll keep you in mind when I'm ready to move forward with a purchase to pick your mind and see what you have to offer!

    Such a small world! My family is from Youngstown and I have been to Cedar Point many times! It's the goal of the summer for most people in Cleveland.

    Feel free to reach out to me any time. I'd love to share some information about investments.

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 33 posts · 7 votes
    10y

    Devin,

    One of the places that I would like to invest in is Memphis. We should definitely chat. Sending request now.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Turlock, CA · Member since 2015 · 94 posts · 30 votes
    10y

    Welcome to BP! These are my favorite markets right now for Buy/Holds. Some offer better cashflow like Tennesee but remember that TX and CA offer better long term equity growth. So if cashflow is key go with the cheaper markets. 

    Central Valley (Fresno, Merced, Turlock)

    Arizona (Phoenix)

    Texas (Dallas, Houston)

    Tennessee (Memphis)

  • Alex CraigBusiness Member
    Real Estate Professional · Memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    Memphis is certainly the linear market out of the ones you listed. Cash flow good with over the top rehab. So-so rehab will bleed you in longer vacancy as several TK providers and newer landlords are running circles around the old guys still doing paint and carpet rehabs. Appreciation is in "A" class areas and it is certainly there.  A little in B class.  

  • Property Management · Memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 667 posts · 362 votes
    10y

    Welcome!

  • Penny ClarkPro Member
    Sacramento, CA · Member since 2014 · 513 posts · 319 votes
    10y

    @Jonathon Watson, Welcome to BP! My husband and I do all our investing in Sacramento and have a vacation rental in Amador. If you have any questions about the market here, feel free to PM me.

  • Investor · Gilroy, CA · Member since 2016 · 255 posts · 195 votes
    10y

    @Alex Craig

    I noticed that Memphis as a whole is ~3.5% overall for appreciation. I forget which website I pulled that from, might have been city-data.com  What is the rate for the A-class neighborhoods? I assume the A-class neighborhoods are probably more expensive. What would you say the typical entrance cost for a an A-class neighborhood is using a TK.

  • Curt DavisBusiness Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Memphis, TN · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    I think anything over $100k could be considered A but if you wanted to play a little more conservative you could say $110k and above. 

    Curt Davis - KAIZEN Realty538 Reviews
  • Alex CraigBusiness Member
    Real Estate Professional · Memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Alexander Price There is not really much "A" opportunity for cash flow within the city limits.  Most of the "A" class is going to be found in the suburbs.  But for example there are deals in certain parts within the city, I did a deal at White Station and Walnut Grove which is true East Memphis. I sold the house for $137,900.  Retail comps suggest $150 to $160 is not out of the question. House rented for $1,350. Taxes are about $2,500 a year. Not great returns on paper, but that house will rent out quickly each and every time because of the area. I would say 3 to 6% is possible. Suburbs could be the same. I would really have to dig into the #'s do give you an accurate #.

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