Real Estate Agent · Denver, CO · Member since 2019 · 17 posts · 6 votes
Hey BP community,
My name is Eric Geers, and I live in Irvine, CA. I'm currently a land planner at Bassenian Lagoni Architects in Newport Beach specializing in designing residential communities. A friend of mine, who is an investor in the Indianapolis, IN area (I'm originally from Fort Wayne, IN), turned me onto BiggerPockets. I am interested in getting into real estate investing, but obviously prices in Southern California are a bit intense. I would like to invest in other markets in the Midwest (i.e., the Indianapolis area), and would love any advice from someone else who is doing something similar! I'm looking forward to learning as much as I can here.
Irvine, CA · Member since 2016 · 545 posts · 614 votes
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@Eric Geers Welcome to BP Eric! I live in Irvine as well near Irvine Spectrum.
I've looked at the Midwest and other Out Of State locations, IN. OH, TN, OK, VA, MD, and DC. With the exception of DC and VA I haven't been able to find any solid overall investments.
I'm seeing some Cash flow opportunities but they don't fit my criteria because they're in Class C- D neighborhoods which I don't invest in. If you're from the IN area you may have better luck finding deals because you'll know the neighborhoods better.
Irvine, CA · Member since 2016 · 545 posts · 614 votes
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@Eric Geers Welcome to BP Eric! I live in Irvine as well near Irvine Spectrum.
I've looked at the Midwest and other Out Of State locations, IN. OH, TN, OK, VA, MD, and DC. With the exception of DC and VA I haven't been able to find any solid overall investments.
I'm seeing some Cash flow opportunities but they don't fit my criteria because they're in Class C- D neighborhoods which I don't invest in. If you're from the IN area you may have better luck finding deals because you'll know the neighborhoods better.
I work and live in Okinawa but originally from Fort Wayne IN. I wish there were less investors in Fort Wayne because every time I find my first investment house I want to purchase someone else beats me to it. The time zone really hampers my communication with realtor.
Rental Property Investor · NY · Member since 2018 · 571 posts · 332 votes
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Hey Eric,
My wife was an exchange student from Japan, and she has an American family that took care of her when she was a student in Fort Wayne. We are still close with them and visit them once in a while. I started considering real estate investing around June last year. When I visited the family in Ft Wayne last July, i really liked the neighborhood and decided to start out my real estate investing there. I would have started local if NY's housing wasn't so darn expensive!
Pacifica, CA · Member since 2018 · 16 posts · 7 votes
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@eric geers I live in the bay area and invest in Fort Wayne from afar. This year I made the leap of investing out of state and so far have 10 doors in Fort Wayne and for the most part things are going well. I am really curious to hear your perspective on why you are selecting a different market as opposed to Fort Wayne (I am assuming you know fort wayne very well and maybe have networks there?) I looked at Indianapolis and though the appreciation might be higher the cash flow is significantly less. And actually from what I have seen Fort Wayne too has gained appreciation. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Orange, CA · Member since 2019 · 28 posts · 9 votes
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@Eric
@Eric Geers welcome. Glad you posted this question - I was also ruminating of this myself. So far my market selection criteria (just from a jobs potential) has helped me narrow Cleveland, Jacksonville, Houston, Louisville. I haven't traveled to any except Houston. Which makes me anxious about investing there yet.
Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2010 · 17 posts · 8 votes
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@Eric Geers Hi Eric, welcome! I wouldn't recommend investing out-of-state at the beginning of your career. You will likely be sold something that you wish otherwise. It's hard to find a cash flow positive rental in SoCal, but there are many ways to invest in RE. It also depends on whether you want to make a career of being an active investor, or just want to invest your capital. I would recommend stay local, see it, touch it, and it will eventually grow on you.
Realtor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 15 posts · 7 votes
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@Luis Escobar
I can attest to the appreciation in the Indianapolis area. While looking at market stats today I noticed the average sales price is up over 9% compared to last year. This is across the entire MIBOR (central Indiana mls) service area. Some select areas obviously being much higher increases.
Real Estate Agent · Denver, CO · Member since 2019 · 17 posts · 6 votes
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@Michinori Kaneko That's great! Fort Wayne is not a bad place to start. The city has done a lot of work revitalizing the downtown area, and I know they still have a lot of other big plans along the riverfront. Hopefully they'll be able to attract some larger companies to the area.
@Luis EscobarThe only reason I considered Indianapolis over Fort Wayne is because my friend already has a network built there. That's really interesting; I would think that Indy would have better cash flow. What kind of a difference have you found? I wouldn't doubt that Fort Wayne is seeing decent appreciation; like I said above, the city has really been investing a lot into redevelopment. What part(s) of the city have you been finding the best deals in?
@Account Closed I would love to connect! I'm interested in learning as much as I can from other people that have experience doing what I want to do.
Thanks everyone for the great welcome and feedback!
I live in Los Angeles and recently completed renovating and renting my first rental property in Santa Clarita, CA. I am already itching for my next one but am thinking of looking out of state (because Los Angeles is nuts). I have been thinking about Fort Wayne because my NYC-based investment partner has family there.
Can anyone point out some Class A or B neighborhoods.....and also where the Class D ones are?
Also, I know a lot of you are local, but do you use property managers? I am in search of a good one.
Rental Property Investor · NY · Member since 2018 · 571 posts · 332 votes
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@Eric Geers i would recommend reaching out to Camilla if you are interested in Fort Wayne area. She actually helped me greatly when i was just getting started (and still helping me to this day!)
Lender · Irvine, CA · Member since 2018 · 71 posts · 15 votes
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@Eric Geers Welcome to BP! I work in Irvine as well (a great place to live, not so great to invest) and you made me look into Fort Wayne market. I will analyze a deal in this market this week as part of my 90 day journal goal. Haha. Thanks!
My name is Eric Geers, and I live in Irvine, CA. I'm currently a land planner at Bassenian Lagoni Architects in Newport Beach specializing in designing residential communities. A friend of mine, who is an investor in the Indianapolis, IN area (I'm originally from Fort Wayne, IN), turned me onto BiggerPockets. I am interested in getting into real estate investing, but obviously prices in Southern California are a bit intense. I would like to invest in other markets in the Midwest (i.e., the Indianapolis area), and would love any advice from someone else who is doing something similar! I'm looking forward to learning as much as I can here.