Russia / Georgia Crisis

Russia / Georgia Crisis

Joshua D.Pro Member
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This situation really has me peeved. I'm trying to look at both sides of the coin, but Russia is really seeming to take things too far in their aggression. It seems like they are just trying to flex their muscles to show the world that they are back . . . ok, we get it.

What does everyone think about what is happening in the former Soviet state?

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  • Real Estate Investor · Millsboro, DE · Member since 2008 · 480 posts · 26 votes
    18y

    Russia does seem to be the aggressor, and their case is the fact they believe its not a defensive weapon system, like we claim.


    Too bad they cant attack totally by water. We would have TONS of screen door subs ready to counter....

    (im half polish, no worries)

  • Jeff TumbarelloPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 323 votes
    18y

    Joshua,
    In 1989 as a young Jarhead, I had dinner in the Hard Rock Café in Tokyo. We started chatting with the guy at the table next to us. He had 2 of the most beautiful blonde women you have ever seen. Come to find a he was a Russian Infantry Officer attached to the Embassy (a spook probably). We ended up sitting at his table. We had lots of drinks and chatted about our lives. We are pretty much the same, but...... we have the constitution and they have the KGB. When we were leaving to go to Roppongi, we parted with a handshake. I looked him I the eye and laughed, told him “I hope I never have to shoot you†LOL, he said the same.

    The Russians are not Bad people, they are the product of a horrible amount of corruption

  • Jeff TumbarelloPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Fort Myers, FL · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 323 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by Anthony Sulecki:
    Russia does seem to be the aggressor, and their case is the fact they believe its not a defensive weapon system, like we claim.


    Too bad they cant attack totally by water. We would have TONS of screen door subs ready to counter....

    (im half polish, no worries)



    War is very fast and brutal now. Its all about who has the best toys. They would not have a chance.

    I have a guy I was in the USMC with, He is Cuban, she is Polish, they just had a baby. I look foreward to the christening. Its fun to watch the two sides of the world interact.

  • Real Estate Investor · Millsboro, DE · Member since 2008 · 480 posts · 26 votes
    18y

    That was actually a joke. The screen door submarine joke about the poles.....

    "how do you sink a polish submarine? Forget to close the screen door."

    haha classic.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    18y

    Here's a new bit of info, fresh today, that demonstrates the danger of the present situation:
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1621970.ece

    Apparently conducting joint military exercises with Georgia would be considered an act of war with Russia.

    Interesting.

  • Real Estate Investor · Elgin, IL · Member since 2008 · 11 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    It's a dangerous situation, the Russian Bear is out of hibernation, and is rumbling through the forest again. I say we should steer clear.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    18y
    Originally posted by Mike Fuller:
    It's a dangerous situation, the Russian Bear is out of hibernation, and is rumbling through the forest again. I say we should steer clear.


    Are you saying that we should just allow Russia to continue bullying their neighbors? Should we allow them to violate international borders, should we allow them to violate cease-fire agreements?
  • OR · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 845 votes
    18y

    I'd like it a lot better if the European countries would deal with it. It's their backyard, not ours.

    I get really tired of the USA being the policeman for the entire world.

    Europe is propsperous because they don't have to pay for any defense systems. They just expect the States to defend them, and at the same time, they hate America for it and do a lot of whining about USA aggression--- except when it is their own bacon that needs to be pulled out of the fire, and then they are all "Where's the United States? Why doesn't America take care of this?"

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    18y

    I agree. Sadly, though, history has shown that Europe either can't or doesn't have the will to stand up when situations like this present themselves.

    Countries in Eastern Europe are really shaken by all of this and they should be pressing for action from their neighbors/allies. Lets see what happens.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    18y

    Here are 2 more articles worth reading:

    Friday:
    http://iht.com/articles/2008/08/29/europe/georgia.php

    Saturday:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4635843.ece

    To anyone who says that we're to blame here, just read Saturday's article. Russia is planning on annexing South Ossetia. As Europe and the West watched, Russia just grabbed its first colony of the new century.

  • Investor · Albany, NY · Member since 2008 · 17 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    Georage was attacked as a slap in the face to us. The Russians were pissed that we tried to get them into Nato (if we had been successful, this never would have happened). So they were waiting for a chance to regain some control.

    Currently they are accusing us of delivering weapons, kind of the same way they are selling modren weapon systems to Iran.

    This is the main reason we need to get the WORLD off oil. If not for the gas and oil, Iran and Russa would all be too broke to do the kind of things they are doing.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
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    18y
    Originally posted by Garry Martin:

    This is the main reason we need to get the WORLD off oil. If not for the gas and oil, Iran and Russa would all be too broke to do the kind of things they are doing.


    You said it, Garry! :kewl:
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