Rental Property Investor · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2018 · 142 posts · 55 votes
Alright so I'm sure there are a lot of good complete systems/programs that people have developed but if you had to choose one single thing you do that has the biggest impact on your success, what would it be?
I pray day and night. And I don’t invest so I can drive fancy cars and smoke cigars. My husband and I (yes I’m gay and conservative) live humbly, and live in a house that is smaller than any of our rentals. Our tenants live better than us! The key for me is Jesus and remaining humble. Without Him I have nothing.
Alright so I'm sure there are a lot of good complete systems/programs that people have developed but if you had to choose one single thing you do that has the biggest impact on your success, what would it be?
I am a newbie, haven't bought a single investment property yet. I speak more like an outsider in RE, and my opinion is based on my general understanding of a bigger picture and lifetime of observation of things around me.
If you ask of technical side, I would say what you pay for investment property will decide the outcome of your project. Buy it for 60% of AS IF value, and you can probably wholesale it, you won't even need to rehab it. Rehab it, and you will make even more money. And if you are unlucky and buy it just before market crashes, still you should not be ruined. Because houses are unlikely to lose 40% of the value even if we have another Great Recession tomorrow. During the last housing bubble national medial price fell only by 6%, and only few markets took a hit of 13% to 20%. So, get the house for 70% or less of AS IS value (or 70% of ARV minus repair costs), and you should be Ok.
But above is just a math, the numbers, the logical side of it. Social interactions (of which any business is inseparable part of) is more than just about a drawing board, numbers, planning on the paper and executing your goal. We are collectively animals. Imperfect biological machines with all the passions, desires, fears and destructive, irrational behaviors of animals we observe in the nature. Things like your likability, manners, appearances can and will play great role in how well you do in this or any other business. Tone of your voice, choice of words will determine if the person on the other end of the phone will want to have more than 30 seconds of conversation with you. If that person happens to be the owner of the house, a subtle difference can make a difference between closing a deal or getting cursed for unwanted marketing call.
And to one or another degree this same pattern of interaction will follow you anywhere you go, be it a networking meeting, conversation with the lender, a realtor , an attorney and so on. More people like you, the greater your chances to have them cooperate with you and facilitate things along the path. Opposite will happen if you don't fit the mold and are not the type that most people would want to do the business with. To make things worse, this may have nothing to do with your true intentions or with what type of human you are. It has a lot to do with perceptions. And, in my personal opinion, your people skills (ability to deal with others) is of greater importance than your math skills and ability to figure things out in the drawing board. Because if those around you don't work with you , you will accomplish little even if you have brains of Einstein.
And if you have both people skills and a level head on your shoulder, well, then sky is the limit. Those are the types who boast of building a portfolio of 200 houses from $20,000 initial cash investment in a matter of 3 years.
@Steve Emling grit, tenacity and gumption. None of the words I have used to describe myself, but used to describe me by others. But it’s how I’ve gone about my life and career. With a laser focus!
Consistent effort each day in the direction of your goals. Avoid shiny object syndrome.
It starts with mindset and your strong “why”, but nothing comes to fruition without taking action.
@Jim K. What you said about taking after your father hit hard. I'm struggling with this. My Dad didn't like my first property and told me not to buy it. His fear about money and risk are blinding my investment goals.
Sitting down with my wife every month and deciding on our budget for the following month. Even while our income was pretty low we were able to accomplish a lot by being diligent with our spending. Now, we've been married for 11 years, have 11 years of budgets we can look back on, and very rarely fight/argue about money.
Persistence. You gotta keep going and try hard even if things at first don't work out the way you want them to. Success will find you working :) And I would also say that it's crucial to be open to new ideas and strategies. The world is changing very fast, and we have to be responsive to change.
@Account Closed surround yourself with the right people. We've all heard it, you become the sum of the 5 around you most. Well, it's true. Get involved and create a layer of insulation with people who are climbing the same hill as you. Oh and getting out of your own head is very helpful. Most people are actually scared of success. Let that sink in...
As everyone can see with all of these posts, everyone is different. What works for one might be different for another. That's why you can read 100 books and there will be 100 different opinions on why that way is the best.
I love to just drive through neighborhoods and explore/compare properties. That gives me an idea of what to look for or where not to look. That way you are not just very familiar with your area, but you know what is worth it or not, and what areas are worth your REI model, so you don't speculate or spend additional time.
Driving is fun, looking at properties on your computer with "photo shop pictures" is boring.
there are many things that contributed but if i had to claim just one as the holy grail to set a blaze the road that leads to success it is simply this. . .
@Account Closed kudos for a great thread! I would echo a lot of what has been mentioned here and wanted to offer a little broader perspective. Consider there are some fundamentals that are important to have in place before any one thing can have the impact it is capable of.
Belief. When you begin each day with the belief that what you are focused on will happen, it allows you to be creating during your day. Lack of belief invites worry, concern, anxiety, fear, etc. and that is not a fun way to live a life.
Direction. When you know exactly what your target is, it's easier to ignore the noise around you and stay focused on the goal. Lack of clarity here just invites constant distraction.
Action. With those established, the daily ingredient becomes consistent action. If you believe in what you are doing and you are crystal clear on the direction you want to go, then it is just a matter of taking that daily step.
@Account Closed Persistence. You have to put in offers and reach out to owners non stop. It doesnt matter what market you are in or what part of the market cycle. You will find good deals if you are persistent enough.
@Account Closed The Only Thing Failure Can't Deal With Is Persistence
When I first started it took me 18 months to get my first deal....crazy...but worth the wait.
This! I also looked for a year and a half for a deal. I started in early 2009 looking in Vegas, but banks were unresponsive to offers I placed for their foreclosures. Later, I switched to Phoenix and same story. Later I looked in cities in my region, but banks insisted to sell foreclosures to primary occupants. In the summer of 2010 I was tired, discouraged and about to give up, and as I was taking a walk outside my house in the evening, I noticed just around the corner from my house a big new sign that said "For sale in public auction" - that's the first one I bought! How ironic that after trying so hard out of state, I ended up buying a great deal just a few hundred feet from my own home... that was the beginning of my journey, but persistence really paid off.
@Steve Emling Waking up early and making my bed. It sounds stupid, but it sets the tone for the rest of the day. When the alarm goes off the “loser” inside me wants to sleep in. When I get up I start my day off with a win. I believe self discipline is the key factor that differentiates successful people from average people.