I Tracked Every Dollar Across Flips — Here Are the 3 Line Items That Blew My Budget

I Tracked Every Dollar Across Flips — Here Are the 3 Line Items That Blew My Budget

Alexis DeAngelisBusiness Member
Property Manager · Raleigh, Raleigh-Durham area · Member since 2025 · 55 posts · 41 votes

After many completed flips across the RDU Triangle (NC) and Huntsville, AL, I finally sat down and did a full post-mortem on my rehab budgets. Not the pretty version I show my lender — the real one.

Here's what I found:

1. Dumpster runs and debris removal I used to budget $500–$800 for haul-off. Actual average across 7 projects? $1,400 each project. Demo always generates more waste than you think, and if you're doing a full kitchen gut + bathroom, you're looking at 2–3 dumpster pulls minimum. On one Huntsville deal I hit $2,100 because the previous owner left a basement full of junk nobody disclosed.

2. Permits, inspections, and "while we're at it" electrical/plumbing You budget for the visible stuff — new vanity, tile, fixtures. But then the inspector flags the panel, or your plumber finds galvanized supply lines behind the wall you just opened. My average electrical/plumbing overage was 22% above initial estimates. On flip #4, a $3,500 plumbing budget became $6,800 once we found cast iron drain lines that needed to be replaced.

3. Carrying costs during contractor delays This one's sneaky because it doesn't show up in your "rehab budget" — but it eats your profit just the same. My average project ran 3.2 weeks over timeline. At $1,200–$1,800/month in carrying costs (hard money interest, insurance, utilities), that's real money. Flip #6 ran 6 weeks over and cost me nearly $4K in extra carry alone.

The lesson I learned too late: I was estimating rehab costs with spreadsheets and gut feel for way too long. The deals where I actually nailed my budget were the ones where I over-estimated every category by 15–20% upfront and built in a real contingency line — not the "I'll figure it out" contingency we all pretend is a plan.

My question for you all: What's YOUR most consistently blown budget line item on flips? I have a feeling HVAC is going to come up a lot, but I got lucky on that front (only had 2 that needed full system replacements).

Would love to compare notes — especially from anyone flipping in the Southeast where we're dealing with older housing stock, crawl spaces, and humidity surprises.

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Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2021 · 788 posts · 509 votes
8mo

@Alexis DeAngelis - My biggest expense with flips is delays in general. With every day/week that passes you're paying on the loan, insurance, taxes, utilities, etc... that adds up. My last flip was with a contractor that had multiple projects at once and ran behind on all of them - I didn't find that out until later and suffered the consequences. 

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  • Michael K GallagherBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8mo

    Thanks for sharing this, and I appreciate the honesty with yourself on where you came up short.  I understand in some cases you likely buy these properties site unseen but things like a sewer scope in my mind are always worth it if you can make it work logistically.  And curious how the basement full of stuff was missed, just something no one had pictures of?  Are you getting video walkthroughs of properties done prior to closing? 

    • Alexis DeAngelisBusiness Member
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      Property Manager · Raleigh, Raleigh-Durham area · Member since 2025 · 55 posts · 41 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Michael K Gallagher:

      Thanks for sharing this, and I appreciate the honesty with yourself on where you came up short.  I understand in some cases you likely buy these properties site unseen but things like a sewer scope in my mind are always worth it if you can make it work logistically.  And curious how the basement full of stuff was missed, just something no one had pictures of?  Are you getting video walkthroughs of properties done prior to closing? 


       The basement full of stuff was actually a crawlspace and an attic combined that had clearly been the past residents storage for decades LOL 

  • Bo SmithPro Member
    Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 378 votes
    8mo

    This is gold. Dumpster runs being 75% over budget is one of those things that catches everyone because demo waste volume is genuinely hard to estimate. You can walk a property and plan every square foot of drywall, but nobody accounts for the fact that the previous owner was storing a garage's worth of junk in the crawlspace. That ,400 average validates what I've been seeing -- budget ,200 minimum just to be safe, and if the property has a basement or attic, add another 00.

    The electrical/plumbing discovery during permits is brutal because it's the one thing that kills timeline. You find galvanized lines or an undersized panel and suddenly you're in a 3-week detour that costs you 00-400/day in carrying costs. That 22% overage you're seeing tracks with my experience. I now build in a hard 15% buffer on electrical and plumbing specifically before I even start the job, and I call it "hidden infrastructure costs." Saves me from being surprised.

    Your point on carrying costs is the one that kills flippers most because it's abstract. Three weeks over on a 0k rehab with ,500 monthly carry is an extra ,250 that comes straight out of profit. How are you adjusting for contractor delays now -- are you adding contingency timeline upfront, or building hard money fees to account for the overrun?

  • Dan H.Pro Member
    Investor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    8mo
    Quote from @Alexis DeAngelis:

    After many completed flips across the RDU Triangle (NC) and Huntsville, AL, I finally sat down and did a full post-mortem on my rehab budgets. Not the pretty version I show my lender — the real one.

    Here's what I found:

    1. Dumpster runs and debris removal I used to budget $500–$800 for haul-off. Actual average across 7 projects? $1,400 each project. Demo always generates more waste than you think, and if you're doing a full kitchen gut + bathroom, you're looking at 2–3 dumpster pulls minimum. On one Huntsville deal I hit $2,100 because the previous owner left a basement full of junk nobody disclosed.

    2. Permits, inspections, and "while we're at it" electrical/plumbing You budget for the visible stuff — new vanity, tile, fixtures. But then the inspector flags the panel, or your plumber finds galvanized supply lines behind the wall you just opened. My average electrical/plumbing overage was 22% above initial estimates. On flip #4, a $3,500 plumbing budget became $6,800 once we found cast iron drain lines that needed to be replaced.

    3. Carrying costs during contractor delays This one's sneaky because it doesn't show up in your "rehab budget" — but it eats your profit just the same. My average project ran 3.2 weeks over timeline. At $1,200–$1,800/month in carrying costs (hard money interest, insurance, utilities), that's real money. Flip #6 ran 6 weeks over and cost me nearly $4K in extra carry alone.

    The lesson I learned too late: I was estimating rehab costs with spreadsheets and gut feel for way too long. The deals where I actually nailed my budget were the ones where I over-estimated every category by 15–20% upfront and built in a real contingency line — not the "I'll figure it out" contingency we all pretend is a plan.

    My question for you all: What's YOUR most consistently blown budget line item on flips? I have a feeling HVAC is going to come up a lot, but I got lucky on that front (only had 2 that needed full system replacements).

    Would love to compare notes — especially from anyone flipping in the Southeast where we're dealing with older housing stock, crawl spaces, and humidity surprises.

    I typically do not have an issue with item #1 or #3.  

    A big exception for #1 not being an issue for us is plaster and lathe demo is significantly heavier.   We took down 4 lathe and plaster walls and a brick fireplace on our last rehab.   The weight was as though we took down at least 4 times that many drywall walls.  Because of limited experience with lathe and plaster, I sugnificantly underestimated the haul away costs.

    as for #2, I regularly get additional plumbing costs over projection.   I also regularly underestimate the plumbing costs.  Plumbers in my market are crazy expensive.   You open walls and it can be shocking what you find With regard to plumbing.

    my last rehab was the most over budget of any of our rehabs, but only 0.5 weeks late to plan (with a lot going wrong including 2 contractors not finishing their commitment).

    good luck
    • Alexis DeAngelisBusiness Member
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      Property Manager · Raleigh, Raleigh-Durham area · Member since 2025 · 55 posts · 41 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Dan H.:
      Quote from @Alexis DeAngelis:

      After many completed flips across the RDU Triangle (NC) and Huntsville, AL, I finally sat down and did a full post-mortem on my rehab budgets. Not the pretty version I show my lender — the real one.

      Here's what I found:

      1. Dumpster runs and debris removal I used to budget $500–$800 for haul-off. Actual average across 7 projects? $1,400 each project. Demo always generates more waste than you think, and if you're doing a full kitchen gut + bathroom, you're looking at 2–3 dumpster pulls minimum. On one Huntsville deal I hit $2,100 because the previous owner left a basement full of junk nobody disclosed.

      2. Permits, inspections, and "while we're at it" electrical/plumbing You budget for the visible stuff — new vanity, tile, fixtures. But then the inspector flags the panel, or your plumber finds galvanized supply lines behind the wall you just opened. My average electrical/plumbing overage was 22% above initial estimates. On flip #4, a $3,500 plumbing budget became $6,800 once we found cast iron drain lines that needed to be replaced.

      3. Carrying costs during contractor delays This one's sneaky because it doesn't show up in your "rehab budget" — but it eats your profit just the same. My average project ran 3.2 weeks over timeline. At $1,200–$1,800/month in carrying costs (hard money interest, insurance, utilities), that's real money. Flip #6 ran 6 weeks over and cost me nearly $4K in extra carry alone.

      The lesson I learned too late: I was estimating rehab costs with spreadsheets and gut feel for way too long. The deals where I actually nailed my budget were the ones where I over-estimated every category by 15–20% upfront and built in a real contingency line — not the "I'll figure it out" contingency we all pretend is a plan.

      My question for you all: What's YOUR most consistently blown budget line item on flips? I have a feeling HVAC is going to come up a lot, but I got lucky on that front (only had 2 that needed full system replacements).

      Would love to compare notes — especially from anyone flipping in the Southeast where we're dealing with older housing stock, crawl spaces, and humidity surprises.

      I typically do not have an issue with item #1 or #3.  

      A big exception for #1 not being an issue for us is plaster and lathe demo is significantly heavier.   We took down 4 lathe and plaster walls and a brick fireplace on our last rehab.   The weight was as though we took down at least 4 times that many drywall walls.  Because of limited experience with lathe and plaster, I sugnificantly underestimated the haul away costs.

      as for #2, I regularly get additional plumbing costs over projection.   I also regularly underestimate the plumbing costs.  Plumbers in my market are crazy expensive.   You open walls and it can be shocking what you find With regard to plumbing.

      my last rehab was the most over budget of any of our rehabs, but only 0.5 weeks late to plan (with a lot going wrong including 2 contractors not finishing their commitment).

      good luck

       Thank you so much! Best of luck with all your renovations :-) 

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    8mo

    This is why it is so important to include a contingency in your flips and make sure you budget appropriately. Far too many times people take the rosiest of pictures and put together a budget as if things go perfectly, which is never the case. We see this also frequently when people are using ARV and holding costs, as well as the income side of rent when money is coming in the door.

    The best way to understand this is how you did it, though, which is to have the information handy and readily available and track it. If it can be measured and tracked, it is much better. 

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    • Alexis DeAngelisBusiness Member
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      Property Manager · Raleigh, Raleigh-Durham area · Member since 2025 · 55 posts · 41 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      This is why it is so important to include a contingency in your flips and make sure you budget appropriately. Far too many times people take the rosiest of pictures and put together a budget as if things go perfectly, which is never the case. We see this also frequently when people are using ARV and holding costs, as well as the income side of rent when money is coming in the door.

      The best way to understand this is how you did it, though, which is to have the information handy and readily available and track it. If it can be measured and tracked, it is much better. 


       Yeah 100%. The current house that we lost the most on, we have definetly learned a lot from. We won't purchase a house this big again... we bit off way more than we can chew. The good thing is, once it's sold it'll be a great visual to show the work our company is capable of, if that makes sense :-)

  • Bo SmithPro Member
    Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 378 votes
    8mo

    Alexis, this is exactly the post folks need to see. The carrying cost piece is what kills most flippers because it doesn't feel like a "rehab overage" -- it feels like bad luck. But it's not. It's the cost of contractor delays, inspector findings, and timeline compression.

    The ,400 dumpster average is spot on. Most first-timers budget 00 because they don't account for multiple haul-offs. You're doing full kitchen and bath renovation, and the debris is usually 40% more than expected. I've seen that single line item swing a 5k profit deal into a break-even or worse.

    What I'd add to your list: the electrical/plumbing surprise is almost always a panel upgrade or code compliance issue the previous owner deferred. When you open walls, the inspector sees what the old owner was hiding. That's not a "surprise" -- it's inevitable. So budget for it from day one. Same with the carrying costs. If your hard money is ,500/month and your project is 8 weeks, you're already assuming 8 weeks. Tariffs and labor delays have stretched timelines 2-3 weeks longer in 2026. That's another -4.5k in your math before you even start.

    What's your current contingency strategy on new deals -- are you building that 15-20% buffer into every project upfront, or are you still evaluating deals at "best case" numbers and hoping contractors stay on timeline?

    • Alexis DeAngelisBusiness Member
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      Property Manager · Raleigh, Raleigh-Durham area · Member since 2025 · 55 posts · 41 votes
      8mo
      Quote from @Bo Smith:

      Alexis, this is exactly the post folks need to see. The carrying cost piece is what kills most flippers because it doesn't feel like a "rehab overage" -- it feels like bad luck. But it's not. It's the cost of contractor delays, inspector findings, and timeline compression.

      The ,400 dumpster average is spot on. Most first-timers budget 00 because they don't account for multiple haul-offs. You're doing full kitchen and bath renovation, and the debris is usually 40% more than expected. I've seen that single line item swing a 5k profit deal into a break-even or worse.

      What I'd add to your list: the electrical/plumbing surprise is almost always a panel upgrade or code compliance issue the previous owner deferred. When you open walls, the inspector sees what the old owner was hiding. That's not a "surprise" -- it's inevitable. So budget for it from day one. Same with the carrying costs. If your hard money is ,500/month and your project is 8 weeks, you're already assuming 8 weeks. Tariffs and labor delays have stretched timelines 2-3 weeks longer in 2026. That's another -4.5k in your math before you even start.

      What's your current contingency strategy on new deals -- are you building that 15-20% buffer into every project upfront, or are you still evaluating deals at "best case" numbers and hoping contractors stay on timeline?


       We are building the contingency into each purchase, but unfortunately we are hitting blocks when opening up walls and draining pools LOL. The current house we are working on is a BEAR and I swear it seems like every other day there's new costs. I praying we get this house on the market soon! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2021 · 788 posts · 509 votes
    8mo

    @Alexis DeAngelis - My biggest expense with flips is delays in general. With every day/week that passes you're paying on the loan, insurance, taxes, utilities, etc... that adds up. My last flip was with a contractor that had multiple projects at once and ran behind on all of them - I didn't find that out until later and suffered the consequences. 

  • Bo SmithPro Member
    Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 378 votes
    8mo

    Alexis, this is solid data and your conclusions are exactly right. The dumpster thing gets underestimated constantly. Demo and haul-off are the places where inexperienced flippers think they can save money by doing it themselves or low-balling the bid. It never works. You always underestimate debris volume, and when you're in the middle of a full kitchen gut, you can't be running trash to the dump yourself. The labor cost of that alone exceeds the dumpster invoice you should've just paid upfront.

    The permit and electrical/plumbing surprises are where deals break. You mentioned finding cast iron drain lines -- that's the moment the budget turns red. A plumbing surprise on a full rehab can swing your entire deal from 20% margin to 5%. And yes, most flippers budget for the visible work and ignore what's behind the walls. That's an estimation failure, not bad luck.

    Carrying costs getting buried in a separate line item instead of the rehab budget is where a lot of deals get underwritten wrong. A timeline slip doesn't show up as "rehab overrun" -- it shows up as silent margin erosion. Investors who don't account for it get surprised at closing.

    Your 15-20% upfront buffer approach is the right move. Are you using that buffer as actual contingency, or are you finding that most projects still come in right at that padded number?

  • Frank PyleBusiness Member
    Specialist · USA · Member since 2024 · 280 posts · 130 votes
    8mo

    Mine has probably been scope creep after demo more than any single trade. Once the walls are open on older houses you find the stuff nobody saw on the walk through and that is where the budget starts drifting fast. Your point on carry is real too because a few extra weeks can hurt just as much as a bad plumbing surprise and it usually comes from the same root issue which is the original scope was cleaner on paper than it was in the house. I have started looking at every older flip like there is going to be one decent sized surprise hiding in electrical plumbing or subfloor and I am less shocked when it shows up.

    This is honestly a big part of why we built IEC. Too many investors were buying based on the clean version of the budget and then getting hit by the real version after closing, so we wanted a way to pressure test deals up front with real numbers and real execution assumptions before those surprises turn into lost profit.

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