Who's Still Buying Performing Notes in 2026?

Who's Still Buying Performing Notes in 2026?

Member since 2026 · 35 posts · 12 votes

Hello Everyone!

Fellow investors - noticeably fewer active buyers in performing notes lately. Forums quieter, slower responses.

What's changed for you 2025-2026?

  • Servicing costs killing <$100K deals?
  • Pricing standoffs (sellers anchored to 2021)?
  • Ops RE (flips/rentals) better cash flow?
  • Institutions dominating pools?
  • Capital deployed elsewhere?

Active note buyers:

  • Current target sizes/yields vs 2023?
  • Sourcing working (or not)?
  • Servicing hacks that matter?

Sellers holding:

  • Waiting for rate cuts?
  • Borrower risk concerns?
  • Tax timing?

Notes aren't dying - evolved to precision niche. Curious about your take + one 2026 data point.

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Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
7mo
Quote from @Jason Malabute:

I have clients who are doing notes.  We did an analysis of their previous years tax return and we found their previous accountant missed a lot of tax opportunities. Make sure you are working with accountant who knows what they are doing 


 I am curious - what tax opportunities are there that you have in notes? Every CPA we have ever discussed this with is it is interest income, are you getting around it being interest income?

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  • Investor · Costa Mesa, CA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7mo

    Still buying. Currently paying around 10%.

  • Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7mo

    We had always focused on NPLs, but we moved out in 2014 when the pricing of the notes made other sectors more attractive for our capital. We're slowly moving back in, but we've found better yield in originating the loans (we own a licensed mortgage company) and then immediately sell off those investment-grade loans to tranches. I think it's all about yield and what opportunity cost/other alternatives are you facing. Servicers that milked the bill were certainly an issue. We're slowly moving back in and would consider holding performing loans, but that yield has to make sense with other alternatives out there. Nice post!

  • Bo SmithPro Member
    Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 1k+ posts · 373 votes
    7mo

    Notes market got tighter but here's what's working: stop hunting one by one, build an actual sourcing pipeline. Score leads, automate follow-ups, treat it like a system not manual grind. Are you still doing everything manually or running it systematically?

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    7mo

    We have seen a disconnect in the performing market since pre-Covid period. During that time you could target 12+ returns on re-performing loans, and newly originated paper would be 10-12%. Many investors today are trying to seek double-digit returns where yields have just compressed. People should be happy at 9-11% on a well-underwritten loan with low loan-to-value. 

    The other issue is there are a lot of properties that could be sold or financed with loan values between 50,000 or greater. Due to home appreciation it's much more difficult to find those lower price loans. If you find them, they're typically on properties that are in extremely poor areas or need significant work. 

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  • Jason MalabuteBusiness Member
    Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 901 votes
    7mo

    I have clients who are doing notes.  We did an analysis of their previous years tax return and we found their previous accountant missed a lot of tax opportunities. Make sure you are working with accountant who knows what they are doing 

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    • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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      Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
      7mo
      Quote from @Jason Malabute:

      I have clients who are doing notes.  We did an analysis of their previous years tax return and we found their previous accountant missed a lot of tax opportunities. Make sure you are working with accountant who knows what they are doing 


       I am curious - what tax opportunities are there that you have in notes? Every CPA we have ever discussed this with is it is interest income, are you getting around it being interest income?

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    • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
      Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
      7mo
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:
      Quote from @Jason Malabute:

      I have clients who are doing notes.  We did an analysis of their previous years tax return and we found their previous accountant missed a lot of tax opportunities. Make sure you are working with accountant who knows what they are doing 


       I am curious - what tax opportunities are there that you have in notes? Every CPA we have ever discussed this with is it is interest income, are you getting around it being interest income?


      its been interest income for me for 40 years now.. same question. 
    • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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      Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
      7mo
      Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:
      Quote from @Jason Malabute:

      I have clients who are doing notes.  We did an analysis of their previous years tax return and we found their previous accountant missed a lot of tax opportunities. Make sure you are working with accountant who knows what they are doing 


       I am curious - what tax opportunities are there that you have in notes? Every CPA we have ever discussed this with is it is interest income, are you getting around it being interest income?


      its been interest income for me for 40 years now.. same question. 

       must be one of the self promotion without self promotion posts.

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  • Jay ReddingPro Member
    Investor · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2010 · 90 posts · 81 votes
    7mo

    We are still investing in performing 1st lien seller financed notes.  We are mainly purchasing partials to lower our risk but a large enough partial with full collateral assignment to allow the seller to recapitalize if they are into the deal as they should be. 

  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    7mo
    Quote from @Frances Cammack:

    Hello Everyone!

    Fellow investors - noticeably fewer active buyers in performing notes lately. Forums quieter, slower responses.

    What's changed for you 2025-2026?

    • Servicing costs killing <$100K deals?
    • Pricing standoffs (sellers anchored to 2021)?
    • Ops RE (flips/rentals) better cash flow?
    • Institutions dominating pools?
    • Capital deployed elsewhere?

    Active note buyers:

    • Current target sizes/yields vs 2023?
    • Sourcing working (or not)?
    • Servicing hacks that matter?

    Sellers holding:

    • Waiting for rate cuts?
    • Borrower risk concerns?
    • Tax timing?

    Notes aren't dying - evolved to precision niche. Curious about your take + one 2026 data point.

    “Ops RE (flips/rentals) better cash flow?”

    We have minimum ROI requirement (adjusted for risk) that has in the last 3 years eliminated our ability to purchase notes and obtain our require risk adjusted return. Our syndications and funds are still able to obtain this return thru our originating mid size ($1 - 5 million) commercial mortgage notes.


    For my personal portfolio, as my notes pay off I’ve reinvested in selected equity REITS. 

      Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
    • Jacob CamhiBusiness Member
      Hinton, WV · Member since 2026 · 132 posts · 40 votes
      6mo

      Seeing the same thing on my end, the performing note buyer pool feels thinner than it did a couple years ago. 2025-2026 has mostly been about two things: servicing costs and yield expectations. Sub‑$100K UPB is hard to make pencil once you bake in servicing, reserves, and any legal, so the focus has shifted to roughly $75K-$250K notes where you can still clear around 9-11% yield instead of the 7-9% that felt acceptable in 2023.

      A lot more paper is getting passed on because sellers are still mentally anchored to 2021 pricing and it feels better to sit in cash than stretch on clean firsts at 6-7%. Operational real estate that actually cash flows has gotten more attractive, so notes have to compete with that.

      On sourcing, the easy stuff feels picked over: fewer strong tapes from the usual brokers, more noise in the email blasts, so most of what is actually getting bought is coming from smaller originators and individual seller‑finance holders where there is already a relationship. Short version: buying less, buying a bit bigger, pushing for higher yields, and trying not to force deals just because 2021 was more fun.

      • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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        Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
        6mo
        Quote from @Jacob Camhi:

        Seeing the same thing on my end, the performing note buyer pool feels thinner than it did a couple years ago. 2025-2026 has mostly been about two things: servicing costs and yield expectations. Sub‑$100K UPB is hard to make pencil once you bake in servicing, reserves, and any legal, so the focus has shifted to roughly $75K-$250K notes where you can still clear around 9-11% yield instead of the 7-9% that felt acceptable in 2023.

        A lot more paper is getting passed on because sellers are still mentally anchored to 2021 pricing and it feels better to sit in cash than stretch on clean firsts at 6-7%. Operational real estate that actually cash flows has gotten more attractive, so notes have to compete with that.

        On sourcing, the easy stuff feels picked over: fewer strong tapes from the usual brokers, more noise in the email blasts, so most of what is actually getting bought is coming from smaller originators and individual seller‑finance holders where there is already a relationship. Short version: buying less, buying a bit bigger, pushing for higher yields, and trying not to force deals just because 2021 was more fun.


        Interets rates have been pretty stable (exclusive of the recent oil hike), but with them stabilized and lower and banks paying lower interest you would think people would still be happy with a solid 7-9% on a performing loan - especially with low equity as the risk is significantly lower. Days of gettin 12% on 40% LTV is not happening unless you are originating the paper yourself, but getting it on secondary market is harder - but still can be had with some of the fix and flip loans - but those also hold significant risk

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      • Don KonipolBusiness Member
        Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
        6mo
        Quote from @Chris Seveney:
        Quote from @Jacob Camhi:

        Seeing the same thing on my end, the performing note buyer pool feels thinner than it did a couple years ago. 2025-2026 has mostly been about two things: servicing costs and yield expectations. Sub‑$100K UPB is hard to make pencil once you bake in servicing, reserves, and any legal, so the focus has shifted to roughly $75K-$250K notes where you can still clear around 9-11% yield instead of the 7-9% that felt acceptable in 2023.

        A lot more paper is getting passed on because sellers are still mentally anchored to 2021 pricing and it feels better to sit in cash than stretch on clean firsts at 6-7%. Operational real estate that actually cash flows has gotten more attractive, so notes have to compete with that.

        On sourcing, the easy stuff feels picked over: fewer strong tapes from the usual brokers, more noise in the email blasts, so most of what is actually getting bought is coming from smaller originators and individual seller‑finance holders where there is already a relationship. Short version: buying less, buying a bit bigger, pushing for higher yields, and trying not to force deals just because 2021 was more fun.


        Interets rates have been pretty stable (exclusive of the recent oil hike), but with them stabilized and lower and banks paying lower interest you would think people would still be happy with a solid 7-9% on a performing loan - especially with low equity as the risk is significantly lower. Days of gettin 12% on 40% LTV is not happening unless you are originating the paper yourself, but getting it on secondary market is harder - but still can be had with some of the fix and flip loans - but those also hold significant risk

        When rates compress investors who are reluctant to “give up” the higher interest rates they were getting are usually willing to go further out the risk scale to maintain those higher interest rates.  Problem is that they don’t recognize that the entire risk profile of their portfolio has changed.  This is the classic case of the tail wagging the dog.  They spend years to achieve a “proper” (for them) risk return profile and then “chase” rates and completely change the risk character of their portfolio over what’s often a temporary situation. 

        Sometimes a change in risk profile is warranted, but the decision should be well thought out and considered not a “knee jerk” reaction to current market conditions. 

        On the other hand some investors don’t understand risk at all.  Years ago I received a call from one of our pretty good sized investors.  He informed me that he wanted to withdraw his funds invested in our mortgage fund because he found a similar investing paying 48% interest vs our 15% (this was in the early 2000s).   We had numerous investors willing to take him out, so I facilitated the transaction.  About 8 months later he called me to tell me that he had lost about half his capital with his “replacement” investment fund.  Turns out the 48% interest was being offered secured by accounts receivable, not real property.  
        Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
      • Dan DeppenBusiness Member
        Erie, CO · Member since 2017 · 274 posts · 267 votes
        6mo
        Quote from @Jacob Camhi:



        A lot more paper is getting passed on because sellers are still mentally anchored to 2021 pricing and it feels better to sit in cash than stretch on clean firsts at 6-7%. 

         Mentally anchoring on past market conditions is the fatal flaw of most note investors. Many are still anchored on the market conditions from 10 years ago. 

        Something I've learned in the last 18 months or so is that the pool of note buyers and note creators are completely different in terms of personality. Note 'buyers' tend to be wildly conservative and will look for any reason not to do a deal. Most people who claim to be note buyers I suspect don't actually buy notes at all. Most note creators tend to be super aggressive and rotated way in the other direction. Also, note buyers and creators tend to not know one another, which is weird to me because the 2 communities should have a symbiotic relationship. That's why the top tier note creators deal with banks and larger institutions when they need to recapitalize.

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