Jimmy Napier - Fox the Financing

Jimmy Napier - Fox the Financing

Don KonipolBusiness Member
Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes

Jimmy Napier - Fix the Financing

Jimmy Napier used to teach a course he called fixing the financing. The gist of it was that an

Investor could profit by buying (or investing in) real estate where either a “bad” loan encumbered the

property or the owner was unable to obtain a loan at all. Jimmy presented this as an alternative to the

typical “flip n flip” which he called “fixing the real estate”.

A entire book could be written on just a few of his techniques, but I’ll just provide a quick summary of

some of them. If anyone would like greater details on any of these, just respond to this thread with your

question. Comments, especially from investors who used one of these techniques, or something similar,

are of course most welcome.

1 - Use your good credit in exchange for property ownership. For a property encumbered with an ultra

high interest (hard money) loan, and which the borrower can’t qualify for conventional/institutional

long term, low fixed rate financing, the investor can negotiate a percentage ownership of the

property in exchange for their ability to refinance the property with a much lower rate loan. I’ve

chronicled in other threads how my partner and I obtained a 60% ownership in a 26,000 sf retail/

service center by replacing a 16% loan with a 4% bank loan.

2 - Same scenario as above. Investor previously purchased a property with owner financing at 0 or low

interest rate with SUBSTITUTION OF COLLATERAL clause. Sell the property the loan is secured by,

and MOVE the mortgage (substitute collateral) to the subject property again in exchange for

ownership interest.

3 - For property encumbered with previously owner financing, Negotiate to buy a property at fair value,

then offer to buy existing loans at 30 - 60% discount.

4 - Same as above, offer note holder some cash pay down to restructure the note at 0 interest over

longer term of 7 - 10 years.

5 - Buy property at full price with 0% owner financing and 10 - 15 year term. Resell property for same

price with wrap loan at 8%

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  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    4h

    It is pretty awesome. If you understand finance, how many different options, ways, and strategies you can use to structure a deal. The one I have never gotten comfortable with is the financing-for-equity component with a third-party lender, because I just don't trust the other party.

    Now, if you have more than 50% ownership and have some stake in the overall management of the property, that's probably a different story.

    Curious: what are some of the ways, when you structure it like this, to make sure your investment was protected when you had a partial interest?

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    • Don KonipolBusiness Member
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      Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
      4h

      Chris, as usual you’re absolutely CORRECT; a minority interest in a property controlled by a majority stake holder who can’t even obtain a decent loan is at the very least, somewhat suspect.

      So, we used this or a variation of the financing for equity strategy twice. With the 26,000 retail/service center mentioned we actually also invested $200,000 as working capital for tenant buildouts. We received a 60% ownership so that was no problem.

      The other deal is a warehouse. We obtained 25% ownership, but here's the situation. The title is placed in a new LLC, of which I am the only managing member and the other owners are members, but not managers. The operating agreement gives them the ability to remove me only for fraud or mental incompetence. So I effectively have control of the property. I had originally suggested a structure whereby title was transferred to the LLC with myself as sole member, and the other owners having an option to buy me out for a mutually agreeable price, but the deal killers (attorneys) couldn't come together on agreeable protection for both parties.

      Chris, also note that the loans in these two instances are from banks we have great relationships with; as such we're at their lowest interest available ( the retail/service center loan was taken out in 2021 and was fixed 20 years at 4%) and is not personally guaranteed by us as long as it's at 50% LTV or less AND has a one time assumable clause!

      Now the bad news, the main bank we used was bought out and the parent bank won’t even consider a loan under anything like those terms; as a result the other bank has revised their offer to reflect the (lack of ) competition. The offer to us is still attractive enough for us to pursue another similar deal, but the window of opportunity is somewhat narrower.

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