Investor · Vermilion, OH · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 13 votes
Although I'm already considering at least one tax preparer I wanted to see what everyone else on Bigger Pockets is doing. Flips are short term and rental properties are long term. I understand you don't want to mix the two.
Investor · Baltimore County, MD · Member since 2014 · 466 posts · 439 votes
6y
I believe there is a tax forum that would likely bringing more thorough answers for you, but the question really revolves around your personal circumstances and goals. Each entity has pros and cons. I don't think starting a REIT is where you are yet, so we can probably cross that one off the list. I have found LLCs to work best for our situation but that does not mean that would be best for you.
Although I'm already considering at least one tax preparer I wanted to see what everyone else on Bigger Pockets is doing. Flips are short term and rental properties are long term. I understand you don't want to mix the two.
I have an s-corp that owns nothing and more than one MMLLC for commercial properties only. What are you trying to do?
Sometimes the answer is none of the above. I would not try to stuff a residential house with debt inside an entity, especially a corp.
Attorney · Doylestown, PA · Member since 2015 · 103 posts · 65 votes
6y
Agree with @Jamie Bateman - you need to sit down with a CPA that has experience with Real Estate investors/investments. The decision will be made based upon your business model as well as your own personal (and possible partners) financial situations. I represent alot of investors, and I never recommend making a decision on which business entity to choose without first getting the opinion of my client's CPA.
Edmonds, WA · Member since 2019 · 61 posts · 46 votes
6y
I know Mark Kohler has a lot of info on this. You can look him up on YouTube for some free research. From what I understand from the way he structures things, you want a passive side (rentals) and an active side (own a business, fix and flip, wholesale, etc). You would use LLCs for passive side and S-Corp for the active side. C-corps, from what I hear, are really expensive, you'd really only use it if you planned to have your business go public (as in selling shares) or if you were single and basically terminally ill. Haven't really looked into REITs too much other than investing in them myself, so can't comment on that.
As everyone suggested though, check with a CPA, preferably one that specializes in real estate.
Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
6y
There is no cookie cutter, one size fits all approach to this. A good CPA will find out more about your personal situation, such as additional sources of income, long and short term goals, retirement plan goals, etc before recommending a strategy.
Accountant · Rochester, NY · Member since 2017 · 36 posts · 20 votes
6y
As always, you would want to talk with your personal CPA who has more intimate knowledge on your situation.
One of the reasons you want to keep these two forms of investment separate is because of how the IRS is likely to treat either. In the eyes of the IRS, flipping is more akin to a normal business (like the act of renting a property or construction), so they typically seek to tax this at ordinary rates. For long-term rentals, however, the IRS is more kind with its tax treatment. They'll treat the holding of the property as an investment acted, subject to the capital gains tax law and regulations.
Now, you could accomplish this using two separate LLCs. LLCs are typically easier to setup and, if structured properly, can provide enough protection. Depending on your situation, a different form may be better for the flipping business, but I would discuss this with your lawyer and CPA. A REIT is really for a more specific type of investment, which I don't think would be beneficial here.
Investor · Vermilion, OH · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 13 votes
6y
Thank you, everyone, for your advice. I'm still studying all opportunities so I haven't decided which REI path to take just yet. Before I do, I will consult with a tax pro who specializes in that area.