Renting your first rental to a friend

Renting your first rental to a friend

Member since 2023 · 16 posts · 5 votes

Great morning BP family,

I purchased my first home on April 1, 2024. I bought a 3/2 1500sqft foreclosure in Ormond Beach Florida. My purchase price was 225k and I put 5% down. I put about 60 – 70k in repairs. I completely renovated the primary and guest bathrooms. Added brand new cabinets and granite countertops. I am in the process of getting it reappraised to eliminate PMI. I finished all my renovations in early November. I expect the home to be worth at least 300k conservatively, but up to 325k. It appraised 242k prior to any renovations.

My mortgage should be about $2,100 after I get PMI eliminated and I was going to rent it to a friend that I have known since high school for $2,000 a month. The home is in a B class neighborhood, in a good school district, and walking distance to parks. I expect it to appreciate over time. I plan to pull a standard lease agreement from the Florida Supreme Court website and review it with her next week.

I have received a new job opportunity where I will be making an extra 40k annually and must move out of my home quicker than I initially expected. Does it make sense to rent it out losing $100 a month? I planned to increase the rent to $2,100 next year to cover my expenses. On paper I am only expecting to lose $1,200 for the year (assuming no cap ex expenses since I renovated everything recently).

Alternatively, I feel that a property manager could probably rent the property out and cash flow even after they take their cut, but I am worried about the screening process and potential tenants destroying my new home. Admittedly, I made the interior nicer than I probably should have for the area. I have seen other similar homes rent for $2,200 - $2,500.

I appreciate any advice from this very helpful community!

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Alecia LovelessPro Member
Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
1y

@Troy Parker Every time I have rented to a friend or acquaintance it has ended poorly. The common thought is to not rent to friends or family. It often ruins the relationship.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    I would rent it out at market rent. If your friend is unwilling to pay that then move on. I think it would be awkward if you raise the rent after a year, might cause conflict between you two. Connect with a PM to make sure you are on par with market rent. Once you have a PM put it on market for rent your friend is more then welcome to go through the process with them. Remember you are running a business. 

  • Gina SternPro Member
    Investor · Boca Raton, FL · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 159 votes
    1y

    Hi Troy congrats on your purchase, which it seems you purchased at a forelcousre auction. Does your mortgage include your property tax payments? I always recommend to make even a little passive income from a rental after all your expenses, lets be honest you put a lot of effort into this rehab so you should reap a little return. Good luck at the auctions! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2019 · 90 posts · 49 votes
    1y

    Hey Troy! I'm in Oviedo nearby, love Ormond and it's a great market! Congrats on the great deal! My advice without even hesitating, I wouldn't rent anything that doesn't cash flow and provide a good cash-on-cash return out the gate.

    If you're not familiar with cash-on-cash I would recommend looking it up, I wish I knew about it when I was younger. When I was younger I spent a large amount on a rehab turned into long term rental, but nearly cleared out all my capital. Not realizing I was only getting a few hundred a month from it and from a cash-on-cash perspective I'd have been better off buying TBills with the click of a button instead of all the hard work, stress, time, and planning I put into it. 

    All the best to you in your real estate journey, and congrats again! 

  • Member since 2023 · 16 posts · 5 votes
    1y

    I contacted a property management company and they expect it would rent between $2,000 - $2,100. Obviously they would expect fees. It looks like I would be renting it at market value if I rent to my friend, but I would still be losing $100 a month. 

    I have not lived in the property two years and feel that any profit I may make on a sale would get chewed up by closing costs and capital gains. 

  • Michael SmytheBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    @Troy Parker how well do you know and like this friend?

    Are you willing to lose them over this rental?

    Have rented to friends twice and neither ended well, both still owe me money:(

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  • Member since 2018 · 113 posts · 135 votes
    1y

    As a long-term hold investor, I see this property as -$600/mo to -$800/mo depending on whether you use a PM or not. This includes cap ex, repairs (will a renter leave the property in the same condition you hand it off in? Not likely), vacancy (@ 8% for me), and a possible PM (10% normally).

    I recommend you reach out to a local seasoned investor and have them run your #s with you, as the #s depend on how you manage it (how hands on you are) and also local pricing. But that’s what it would be in my area. 

    I also don’t like renting really nicely rehabbed properties, most renters don’t take care of properties as well as we would hope. I would consider selling, i’m not necessarily saying you should, BUT only hold if you have a very strong belief in the appreciation of this property. 

    Also, I would only rent your friend if you think they are your best possible tenant. Don’t do any favors, this is your business, so treat it like a business. Good luck!

  • Alecia LovelessPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    1y

    @Troy Parker Every time I have rented to a friend or acquaintance it has ended poorly. The common thought is to not rent to friends or family. It often ruins the relationship.

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    1y

    I think it's a bad investment. Even if you break even, you will lose money every month it sits vacant, when you need repairs, property management, etc. Why not sell it and try again at the new location?

    I definitely don't recommend renting to a friend. Those situations go bad more often than not, costing you money and the friendship.

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  • Northern Virginia · Member since 2024 · 7 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    If you need to get it rented fast, a great property manager would list the home for $2100 (below market) and get several quality applicants competing against each other to drive the price up to the max so you don't risk vacancy by starting out too high and gradually reducing to find the sweet spot. So much depends on your intended move out date since you said you're moving out faster than expected. You said "I am worried about the screening process and potential tenants destroying my new home". All Landlords risk tenants damaging the home, but a NICE home attracts NICE tenants so the fact that you've made the home very NICE means you should be able to take your pick of applicants. Also, ask your agent to do prior rental verifications and to run the applicants through Forewarn app. Zillow screening doesn't catch all backgrounds, but Forewarn does and county records do as well. Don't discount your property and don't make the newbie mistake of renting to friends and family. You're not running a charity, you're running a business.

  • Kyle MccawBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Keller, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    @Troy Parker

    Congratulations on the renovations and your new job opportunity! Renting to a friend can complicate things, especially if you're starting below market rent. Friendship and business don’t always mix well, so it’s critical to use a solid lease and treat this as a business arrangement. Ensure you collect a proper security deposit (typically one month's rent in Florida) to cover potential damages.

    Your plan to increase rent next year makes sense given rising costs (taxes, insurance, and maintenance). However, be mindful that preventative maintenance, such as HVAC servicing, can arise even with recent renovations. It’s good to budget for unforeseen expenses.

    Regarding PMI, it's worth discussing directly with your loan servicer since many lenders require holding the property for a period or reaching specific equity thresholds before removal.

    If market rents are $2,200–$2,500, hiring a property manager could help you optimize rent while taking the burden of tenant screening off your plate. A professional manager can find qualified tenants who respect your home and handle day-to-day issues. This could turn a potential loss into positive cash flow while protecting your property’s value.

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  • Josh SedivyBusiness Member
    St. Louis, MO · Member since 2024 · 134 posts · 55 votes
    1y

    Congrats on your first home! If you trust your friend as a tenant, renting at $2,000 now and increasing to $2,100 next year is reasonable. A property manager could help secure $2,200–$2,500 but comes with fees. Weigh convenience vs. control—your renovations and location set you up well for long-term growth! 

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