How do investors feel about wholesalers ?

How do investors feel about wholesalers ?

Baltimore, MD · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 0 votes
Good morning everyone I’m new to wholesaling here in Baltimore, Md and I was just wondering how do investors feel about wholesalers? Do investors consider wholesaler deals ? What’s the typical criteria investors look for ? What is considered a good deal for investors coming from a wholesaler?
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Rental Property Investor · Lodi, CA · Member since 2018 · 14 posts · 10 votes
8y

I have not used a wholesaler yet, but I plan to.  From my understanding, just like anything there are good ones and there are bad ones.  Wholesalers who are honest, give fair ARVs and repair costs can be successful.  Its all about the network and keeping a good reputation.  One shady deal can hurt.  I'd say that a high percentage of investors use a wholesaler for some percentage of their deals.  As far as a good deal, that varies from investor to investor, generally as long as it fits there numbers and they can cash flow (if renting) or make money in a flip, it will be a good deal for them.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Lodi, CA · Member since 2018 · 14 posts · 10 votes
    8y

    I have not used a wholesaler yet, but I plan to.  From my understanding, just like anything there are good ones and there are bad ones.  Wholesalers who are honest, give fair ARVs and repair costs can be successful.  Its all about the network and keeping a good reputation.  One shady deal can hurt.  I'd say that a high percentage of investors use a wholesaler for some percentage of their deals.  As far as a good deal, that varies from investor to investor, generally as long as it fits there numbers and they can cash flow (if renting) or make money in a flip, it will be a good deal for them.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y

    Highly regional.. and your region is loaded with wholesalers..

  • Rock Hill, SC · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 597 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    Good morning everyone I’m new to wholesaling here in Baltimore, Md and I was just wondering how do investors feel about wholesalers? Do investors consider wholesaler deals ? What’s the typical criteria investors look for ? What is considered a good deal for investors coming from a wholesaler?

     Most Folks start out wholesaling in this business( not every one ). So it is natural for folks to need or deal with wholesalers. I would focus on meeting local folks who are buying and selling. Learning and understanding the numbers is most important.  My first few were years were wholesaling deals locally. Even today I love a quick whole sale deal. Please ask away

    Alex

  • Baltimore, MD · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    8y
    @Alex Franks Thanks for the response. How long did you wholesale before you started moving on to different avenues in real estate ? And do you have any good tips as a former wholesaler ?
  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    8y

    A good deal is a good deal where it originated is less important-I have no problem with wholesalers-someday I may even get over my avoidance of FSBO!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2016 · 807 posts · 815 votes
    8y

    Those are really vague questions that have already been answered many times on this forum. I'd suggest you do a quick search.

  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    8y

    Yes investors consider wholesale deals if they are good deals. The key is "Good Deals".  As @Jay Hinrichs says there are a ton of wholesalers in the Baltimore area. Most push deals so bad i wonder if they have ever done a deal. Serious buyers will gladly buy from a wholesaler, but they are more likely to laugh at how bad the deals are. 

    Regarding what investors look for, there are lots of ideas here on how to evaluate deals. Check out the free beginners guide here if you haven't found it yet. (under the education tab) Then check out the 70% rule.

  • Rock Hill, SC · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 597 votes
    8y

    @tre Craw If I could back and do it again. First, make sure the legality in your area. I still wholesale today when I can find a package of deals. keep some, wholesale others. Trying to pay off a few free and clear. Go back through some of my older post on wholesaling. If I can help answer any questions feel free to reach out. Number one thing learn the local numbers. 

    Alex 



    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    @Alex Franks Thanks for the response. How long did you wholesale before you started moving on to different avenues in real estate ? And do you have any good tips as a former wholesaler ?
     
  • Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2017 · 84 posts · 35 votes
    8y

    From the investors I've met in town, it's a fairly mixed bag. Just like agents or property managers, there are good ones who are a delight to work with, and bad ones who misrepresent what they're selling and aren't reliable. 

  • Investor · Dallas TX, United States · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    Wholesalers can be a fantastic source of good deals. They can also be a waste of time. Not all wholesalers are created equal. The good ones, leave some meat on the bone. They also know how to evaluate the deal on the front end, so that I am not wasting my time looking at a house that is supposed to have a 150k ARV in a neighborhood where no house has ever sold above 100k.

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2015 · 270 posts · 217 votes
    8y

    I've almost always done better on the MLS, honestly.

  • Ozzy SirimsiBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 782 votes
    8y

    A good deal is a good deal.

    Doesn't matter who brings it whether MLS, or whoelsaler or your friend etc...

    If you find one, any investor will take it even if they hate wholesalers :))

  • Rental Property Investor · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2016 · 93 posts · 85 votes
    8y

    Wholesalers solve a good problem- they offer marketing and sales skills to investors who may have neither or would like to delegate the work. People with true RE sales and marketing skills have a tremendous value in the industry, and any acquisition firm would pay a lot of money to have them, which is why I believe there are few good wholesalers, and the few that are good just haven't realized their full potential yet 

  • Wholesaler · Waldorf, MD · Member since 2015 · 459 posts · 245 votes
    8y

    @Account Closed asking questions in a forum like - " What’s the typical criteria investors look for ? What is considered a good deal for investors coming from a wholesaler? " is very generic.

    Every investor has a different criteria & what THEY consider a good deal.

    Let's take Baltimore, you may have an investor that only invests on the West side, or the East side, only on blocks with no board ups, on blocks with no more than 2 board ups, only on the county line if it is in the city, only wants turnkey, only wants 2-4 units, only wants small residential commercial with value add, only wants small residential that are rent ready, only flips no rentals, only if they can net 40K+ in a rehab, only 3/2 with basement, only flips on a busline, only rentals on a busline, only the county, only buys 1 deal every quarter, looking for 2 deals a month, send me everything you have, etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah......

    What you need to focus on is to Learn how to find off-market, discounted properties. Once you understand how to find deals, then you can narrow your focus to determine what are the deals for your buyers. Everything IMHO is irrelevant if you can't find off-market discounted properties.

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    Good morning everyone I’m new to wholesaling here in Baltimore, Md and I was just wondering how do investors feel about wholesalers? Do investors consider wholesaler deals ? What’s the typical criteria investors look for ? What is considered a good deal for investors coming from a wholesaler?

    When I hear the word "Wholesaler" the 1st words that come to my mind are

    • Uneducated
    • Unprofessional
    • Impostor
    • Fake Realtor
    • Illegal Broker
    • Daisy Chain
    • Time Waster
  • Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2016 · 121 posts · 60 votes
    8y

    @Account Closed, wholesaler are a dime a dozen but i do believe they do serve a purpose.  If you are putting  your customer first, investor, I think you will have more business than you can handle.  Seems like alot of wholesalers are just throwing things out to the market seeing what sucker might take it and bc the market is so tight things are getting bought up that are not good deals.  I just encourage newer investors to always due extra due diligence and bounce the deal off multi other people when dealing with wholesalers!  Good luck, I hope you will be one of the good ones.

  • Investor · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2018 · 63 posts · 45 votes
    8y

    I agree with @Bjorn Ahlblad. A good deal is a good deal, it doesn't matter where it comes from. Wholesaling is an easy point of entry into RE, so it's only natural that a lot of wholesalers are new and unexperienced. BUT, there are some great ones. 

    I definitely don't agree with Jame's purely negative views on them. In my experience they are a lot like realtors. 80% of them don't know what they're doing. 5% are really good at what they do.

  • Wholesaler · Waldorf, MD · Member since 2015 · 459 posts · 245 votes
    8y

    @James Wise please tell us how you really feel. I'm glad none of the investors I've closed deals with feel that way,. Especially the many that are repeats. Else I would "feel bad" and quit after reading your post!!

    I need an image for an eye roll here.

    @Account Closed why worry or be concerned about what others feel about the industry of "wholesaling or assigning".

    Here's a tip

    1) Get educated

    2) Be professional

    3) Be real, don't say you are going to "buy" someone's house, because you are not.

    4) No need to become a realtor if you don't desire OR get one if it would help you get educated.

    5) Wholesaling real estate in the DMV is not illegal. No need to worry about getting locked up, as in other states

    6) Create your own deals, don't tack on a fee to another deal & try to shop it around

    7) If you do #s 1-6, you won't be wasting anyone's time

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