Slow market challenge for newer investors: make one offer before Halloween

Slow market challenge for newer investors: make one offer before Halloween

Real Estate Agent · Louisville, KY · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

Our market here in Louisville, KY just went quiet. Active inventory is up about 40% from a year ago. Fewer houses went under contract in September than last December. Rates are the highest they've been in a long while. Buyers are taking their time, because for the first time in a while, they can.

That's exactly when newer investors should be paying attention. Nothing good comes out of the barrel in a hurry. The people who buy in the quiet seasons are the ones who get to taste it later.

So here's the challenge I've been giving people locally. Make one offer before Halloween. One. A full contract, a letter of intent, a lowball, a seller-financing offer, a "would you consider an assumption" note. I don't care which. Just get one line in the water.

How I'd go about it right now, in pretty much any market:

  1. Find the tired sellers. Filter the MLS (or have your agent do it) for homes that have been sitting more than 90 days and have already cut their price. Last week I counted 84 of those under $200K in Jefferson County alone. That's not a list of bad houses. It's a list of people who are ready to talk.

  2. Run the numbers before you fall in love. Know your ARV (after repair value), your rehab budget and your max offer before you send anything.

  3. Send letters of intent. An LOI is a short, non-binding, one-page outline of price and terms. It lets you plant seeds with a lot of sellers without writing a full contract on every house.

  4. Ask about the loan, not just the price. FHA and VA loans are generally assumable with the lender's approval. When the bank's rate is over 7% and the seller's is 3%, that can be worth more than the countertops.

  5. If you're buying to live in it, ask for a rate buydown instead of a price cut. That's where the seller pays money up front to lower your interest rate. It changes the monthly payment more than knocking a few thousand off the price does.

  6. Look at small multifamily. Last week there were 53 two-to-four unit buildings for sale in Jefferson County under $300,000, more supply than we've had in years. If a seller has a balloon payment coming, that conversation starts now, not in March.

What hasn't changed: price it right and a house here still goes under contract in under a month at about 98% of list. So the deals aren't everywhere. They're in the listings that guessed high on day one and are still sitting.

The people who come out of a slow season with a deal are the ones who kept making offers while everyone else waited for permission.

So who's in? If you've been watching from the porch, what's the one thing stopping you from sending an offer this month?

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  • Stacy RaskinBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 514 votes
    6d

    Combining offering on listings that have been on the market longer with seller credits can be a useful strategy for real estate investors. If using DSCR loans for non owner occupied rental property financing, it can be helpful to get seller credits to help with a rate buydown to lower the interest rate and to help pay closing costs. Depending on the DSCR loan program that can be up to 6% of the purchase price. For example, if a $300,000 purchase price, that would be $18,000 in seller credits which can help increase cash flow and decrease upfront out of pocket cash for closing fees. Happy to connect to discuss further.

  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 821 posts · 601 votes
    6d

    Rob — what stops most people is they run numbers on the asking price instead of their price. My bottleneck at 236 doors is deal flow, not capital and not contractors, so I make offers, but only at my number. In Memphis that number is simple: single-family under $100K, ARV $180K to $265K, rent that clears the 1% rule, with a 3BR+ Section 8 rent of $1,395 to $1,950. If the roof and foundation are both bad, I do not offer at all. And I never put earnest money down — my offer is my word on a number that works, not a deposit on a number I hope works. One offer at your real number beats ten at theirs.

    • Financial Advisor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2021 · 27 posts · 19 votes
      6d

      Congratulations on that many doors James!

    • Real Estate Agent · Louisville, KY · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      11h

      @Joshua Parsons Appreciate you jumping in. James is a good example of what working from your own number looks like, and 236 doors didn't come from waiting on perfect conditions. As a financial advisor, what do you tell newer clients who are stuck on making a first offer?

  • Pittsburgh, Allegheny County · Member since 2026 · 28 posts · 10 votes
    6d

    Good challenge. Off the MLS, public records can surface the same tired sellers. In Pittsburgh, 2,246 residential properties are on the city's condemned list and 1,308 of them have an absentee owner, and that kind of overlap usually means the house is costing someone money every month.

  • Matthew MorrowBusiness Member
    Investor · PA - NY - NJ · Member since 2019 · 702 posts · 248 votes
    5d

    @Rob Bergeron Love this. The folks sitting out waiting for the perfect rate are going to miss the stretch where sellers actually negotiate. Newer folks, write the offer. Worst case they say no. Great post.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Louisville, KY · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11h

    Thanks for the replies, everybody.

    @Stacy Raskin Good point. A seller credit toward a rate buydown or closing costs can help a buyer's cash flow more than a price cut does. You mentioned some DSCR programs allow up to 6%. I'd confirm the cap with the lender before writing a number like that into an offer.

    @James Jones "One offer at your real number beats ten at theirs" is the whole challenge in one line. That's exactly the discipline I want newer folks to build. On earnest money, that's your call at 236 doors. For someone newer, I'd say a small deposit or a non-binding LOI first can help a listing agent take the offer seriously.

    @Dan Worth Good tip. Public records are a real way to find tired sellers off the MLS. Condemned lists overlapping with absentee owners is a smart cross-check. What records did you pull for it, and how did you match them up?

    @Matthew Morrow Appreciate it. Worst case they say no, and a no is an owner who knows your name when their situation changes.

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