All of a Sudden I’m Receiving Solicitations on BP

All of a Sudden I’m Receiving Solicitations on BP

Don KonipolBusiness Member
Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes

I can’t remember it happening previously.  In the last three days I received 5 colleague requests.  After accepting, I was hit with (thinly) disguised solicitations as messages (“I just want your advice/feedback, can we jump on a quick call to see if you qualify for our program”) by each one.  Has anyone else come across this? 

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Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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Quote from @Becca F.:

I receive mostly messages from new investors from California. When I first joined BP in 2022, I received over 50% DMs from agents or someone in the real estate industry, including CPAs. I rarely receive solicitations now. 

Two of the weird DMs: a scammer who tried to get me to loan him money in a double close who wound up getting arrested. @Jay Hinrichs read through this guy's documents and knew it was a scam. 

 The other one was this guy trying to pretend to be interested in real estate, looking to buy rental property in the Bay Area - said he was a physician with a real estate business (investment company??) talked to him on the phone but it was difficult because English wasn't his first language. Google searched him and could find no record of this person's name as a practicing physician in the USA. I even referred him to a Bay Area agent. He starts asking personal questions and telling me he would marry me and we could move to his home country and how he was grieving because his wife died...weird. He deleted his account before I could report him to BP. 

I'd say recently someone asked me if I needed private lending and to get on a call with CPA. My answer was no on the private lending. 

I'm not clear but are solicitations allowed in DMs? I know blatantly trying to sell something in the forums or self promotions isn't. 


 Unsolicited, out of the blue ones - no, they're not allowed. You can report them to moderators/staff and they will be dealt with. 

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  • Greg ScottPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    1y

    I have received three colleague requests in the past week, which is a little more than normal. All have been asking for advice, but they did not have a program they were selling.  They simply seemed to be newbies looking for help. 

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    1y

    latest one i get is weird dialogue that I have to say is a non English speaker.

    However I often get the can we do a  quick call.. I respond with send me a few bullet points on this system and If I can I will answer those I dont do calls..

    Unless I can tell its going to be a fruitful call as in the person writing has given me some interesting detail that I want to learn about.

    And then sometimes I just feel like I can go deeper if its a subject I like for instance land use issues or entitlement issues.. but if its just vanilla rental stuff or " I am just starting in rentals what should I do" I just respond with keep reading on BP buy the most expensive property you can afford in the best school district  :)

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    1y

    Hop on a quick call--(the wheels of commerce).

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Don Konipol:

    I can’t remember it happening previously.  In the last three days I received 5 colleague requests.  After accepting, I was hit with (thinly) disguised solicitations as messages (“I just want your advice/feedback, can we jump on a quick call to see if you qualify for our program”) by each one.  Has anyone else come across this? 


     I have been getting them from Virtual assistant firms etc. as well as since i have pro account getting leads come in that are spam. for example:



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    • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
      Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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      Quote from @Chris Seveney:
      Quote from @Don Konipol:

      I can’t remember it happening previously.  In the last three days I received 5 colleague requests.  After accepting, I was hit with (thinly) disguised solicitations as messages (“I just want your advice/feedback, can we jump on a quick call to see if you qualify for our program”) by each one.  Has anyone else come across this? 


       I have been getting them from Virtual assistant firms etc. as well as since i have pro account getting leads come in that are spam. for example:



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      Looking for something new to play? ������
      We just launched a collection of browser-based games at DreamWeaver Studios ��� no downloads, just instant fun!

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      thats the one I have been getting..  :)  BP being spammed
  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    I receive mostly messages from new investors from California. When I first joined BP in 2022, I received over 50% DMs from agents or someone in the real estate industry, including CPAs. I rarely receive solicitations now. 

    Two of the weird DMs: a scammer who tried to get me to loan him money in a double close who wound up getting arrested. @Jay Hinrichs read through this guy's documents and knew it was a scam. 

     The other one was this guy trying to pretend to be interested in real estate, looking to buy rental property in the Bay Area - said he was a physician with a real estate business (investment company??) talked to him on the phone but it was difficult because English wasn't his first language. Google searched him and could find no record of this person's name as a practicing physician in the USA. I even referred him to a Bay Area agent. He starts asking personal questions and telling me he would marry me and we could move to his home country and how he was grieving because his wife died...weird. He deleted his account before I could report him to BP. 

    I'd say recently someone asked me if I needed private lending and to get on a call with CPA. My answer was no on the private lending. 

    I'm not clear but are solicitations allowed in DMs? I know blatantly trying to sell something in the forums or self promotions isn't. 

    • JD MartinBusiness Member
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      Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Becca F.:

      I receive mostly messages from new investors from California. When I first joined BP in 2022, I received over 50% DMs from agents or someone in the real estate industry, including CPAs. I rarely receive solicitations now. 

      Two of the weird DMs: a scammer who tried to get me to loan him money in a double close who wound up getting arrested. @Jay Hinrichs read through this guy's documents and knew it was a scam. 

       The other one was this guy trying to pretend to be interested in real estate, looking to buy rental property in the Bay Area - said he was a physician with a real estate business (investment company??) talked to him on the phone but it was difficult because English wasn't his first language. Google searched him and could find no record of this person's name as a practicing physician in the USA. I even referred him to a Bay Area agent. He starts asking personal questions and telling me he would marry me and we could move to his home country and how he was grieving because his wife died...weird. He deleted his account before I could report him to BP. 

      I'd say recently someone asked me if I needed private lending and to get on a call with CPA. My answer was no on the private lending. 

      I'm not clear but are solicitations allowed in DMs? I know blatantly trying to sell something in the forums or self promotions isn't. 


       Unsolicited, out of the blue ones - no, they're not allowed. You can report them to moderators/staff and they will be dealt with. 

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    • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @JD Martin:
      Quote from @Becca F.:

      I receive mostly messages from new investors from California. When I first joined BP in 2022, I received over 50% DMs from agents or someone in the real estate industry, including CPAs. I rarely receive solicitations now. 

      Two of the weird DMs: a scammer who tried to get me to loan him money in a double close who wound up getting arrested. @Jay Hinrichs read through this guy's documents and knew it was a scam. 

       The other one was this guy trying to pretend to be interested in real estate, looking to buy rental property in the Bay Area - said he was a physician with a real estate business (investment company??) talked to him on the phone but it was difficult because English wasn't his first language. Google searched him and could find no record of this person's name as a practicing physician in the USA. I even referred him to a Bay Area agent. He starts asking personal questions and telling me he would marry me and we could move to his home country and how he was grieving because his wife died...weird. He deleted his account before I could report him to BP. 

      I'd say recently someone asked me if I needed private lending and to get on a call with CPA. My answer was no on the private lending. 

      I'm not clear but are solicitations allowed in DMs? I know blatantly trying to sell something in the forums or self promotions isn't. 


       Unsolicited, out of the blue ones - no, they're not allowed. You can report them to moderators/staff and they will be dealt with. 


       Got it. So I reach out (initiate the contact)  to an agent, CPA, lender etc that's fine. If they DM me first and say "I'm an agent in XYZ city or a CPA with ABC CPA Inc. Would you be interesting in hopping on call to discuss this market, etc" that is solicitation? 

      The more gray areas are we share our investing stories then they do the sales pitch. 

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    1y

    It happens maybe once a month. But I just click on the button right next to it that says report solicitation/span, whatever it says. 

    Ps. I don’t know why salespeople are so enamored with phone calls. I’m almost never a “phone guy” and certainly not when I want an exact record of what was said/promised. 

    • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Bill B.:

      It happens maybe once a month. But I just click on the button right next to it that says report solicitation/span, whatever it says. 

      Ps. I don’t know why salespeople are so enamored with phone calls. I’m almost never a “phone guy” and certainly not when I want an exact record of what was said/promised. 


      Not relevant to BP solicitation but I get multiple calls/texts and letters in the mail from wholesalers or "real estate investment companies" asking to buy my California and Indiana properties. The REI companies won't come out and say they're wholesalers.

      One of them offered a number on my Bay Area property - I literally laughed at such a low price... trying to super lowball me. I texted them back and said "do you know how much this worth?" They claimed to be "direct buyers" and made it sound like they would move into the house, blah blah blah. And this was during the 2021 sellers market when CA properties were getting multiple offers. Unfortunately I think people that are unaware of their property value or don't have any real estate knowledge could be taken advantage of these lowball offers. 

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    1y

    @Becca F.. The ones I hate are the texts where the first contact is..

    Are you still interested in selling property X? (Property I never wanted to sell.)

    Did you look over my offer for property x? (They never sent one.)

    I’m standing in front of your house, I love it, I have an offer for you.

    Starting your sales pitch with a lie doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. 

    And it’s kind of obvious when they don’t even cross check their contact info so I get 5 texts or calls in 15 minutes. 

    • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Bill B.:

      @Becca F.. The ones I hate are the texts where the first contact is..

      Are you still interested in selling property X? (Property I never wanted to sell.)

      Did you look over my offer for property x? (They never sent one.)

      I’m standing in front of your house, I love it, I have an offer for you.

      Starting your sales pitch with a lie doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. 

      And it’s kind of obvious when they don’t even cross check their contact info so I get 5 texts or calls in 15 minutes. 


       "I'm standing in front of your house and I have an offer"... that sounds creepy. Tenant is probably wondering who this person is lurking around.

      I told one of them to remove me from their call list then another one from same "investment company" calls me lol 

      I recognize the same area code with the different phone number variations calling 6 times in a row in 2 hours. One of these times I'll answer it and say "Pizza Hut, how can I help you?" just to mess with them. 

  • Doug SmithPro Member
    Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    1y

    Its funny that I see the people actively answering this thread have many, many posts and votes while 90% of initial posts I'm seeing lately are Posts:1, Votes: 0. I have met some wonderful people on here and some I've done business with, but I am very apprehensive to answer a post where the stats are 1/0. It seems we're getting more and more spammers/scammers over the past few months. I'm with you guys. 

    • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Doug Smith:

      Its funny that I see the people actively answering this thread have many, many posts and votes while 90% of initial posts I'm seeing lately are Posts:1, Votes: 0. I have met some wonderful people on here and some I've done business with, but I am very apprehensive to answer a post where the stats are 1/0. It seems we're getting more and more spammers/scammers over the past few months. I'm with you guys. 


       Someone just asked for my phone number in a DM out of the blue - person has no posts on BP.  I'm not giving out my number without at least having a message thread about their specific investing situation or goals. No info in their bio on their profile. I have no idea if they're a scammer. 

      I think some of the "one post" people may just create an account, post then never come back because maybe they're not seriously interested in real estate or the ones who say how great a guru/coach is or a certain real estate company. Those almost seem like shills planted to stir up business for the guru or company. 

  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    1y

                                            Please report these. 

    Just click the link on the upper right of the message

    • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Ned Carey:

                                              Please report these. 

      Just click the link on the upper right of the message


       What exactly happens with the account who is doing the spamming? I reported it and I still this person's messages in my Inbox. Are they put on restriction or banned? Does it depend on the severity or frequency of their infractions (solicitations)? 

    • Ned CareyPro Member
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      Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Becca F.:
      Quote from @Ned Carey:

                                              Please report these. 

      Just click the link on the upper right of the message


       What exactly happens with the account who is doing the spamming? I reported it and I still this person's messages in my Inbox. Are they put on restriction or banned? Does it depend on the severity or frequency of their infractions (solicitations)? 


       Becca, I don't know what specifically happens. I suspect they get a warning and after a couple of warnings they removed. But that is speculation based on my reports. 

  • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Don Konipol:

    I can’t remember it happening previously.  In the last three days I received 5 colleague requests.  After accepting, I was hit with (thinly) disguised solicitations as messages (“I just want your advice/feedback, can we jump on a quick call to see if you qualify for our program”) by each one.  Has anyone else come across this? 

    Yeah, I just give them the number to the white house, say ask for Don and I never hear back from them.

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