Jeez, these days, the question is more like, "Who DOESN'T offer training and coaching?" Many of the book authors listed in my post about multifamily books here seem to offer coaching. Many of the authors are also podcasters and share much of their knowledge on those.
In the end, reading the books I mentioned in my other post should get you 80% there in the education dept. If you want mentoring/coaching, then any of the authors should be able to help....or just meet a MF investor in your local REIA and ask him or her to help you. Personally, I think $300 is all training/coaching is worth...any more than that, and I think you are wasting your money or you are just too lazy to read the books, watch the videos, and listen to the podcasts.
Hello @Jeff Banky. I have a couple groups that have been amazing for me. Robert Helms and Russ Gray of The Real Estate Guys. They do an event that teaches real estate syndication, myself and many of their students are in the multifamily world. Brad Sumrok is also a good one. I haven't been a student of his, but I've met him and I know many guys that have learned the business under him and are doing very well. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help!
I have been to the Real Estate Guys events(just signed up for 2 more) I cant say enough great things about them! I have met brad and a lot of people who have benefited greatly from his group. Even had the opportunity to enjoy a drink with @Tom Lafferty in San Diego a week ago! Great times and great education!!
I have attended The Real Estate Guy's syndication seminar and found it very worth while. I am also in Brad Sumrock's foundation program. I have learned a lot from both of these groups and highly recommend them. You asked about the cost, don't let that be your deciding factor.
Jeez, these days, the question is more like, "Who DOESN'T offer training and coaching?" Many of the book authors listed in my post about multifamily books here seem to offer coaching. Many of the authors are also podcasters and share much of their knowledge on those.
In the end, reading the books I mentioned in my other post should get you 80% there in the education dept. If you want mentoring/coaching, then any of the authors should be able to help....or just meet a MF investor in your local REIA and ask him or her to help you. Personally, I think $300 is all training/coaching is worth...any more than that, and I think you are wasting your money or you are just too lazy to read the books, watch the videos, and listen to the podcasts.
Would look into Joe Fairless' program if you are looking to get coaching from someone doing big deals and w/frequency. Something that Joe's program offers that I have not heard of from others is an opportunity to potentially raise capital for Joe's deals. Why would that be important? Think leveraging credibility (if you are lacking experience in large MF) and the fact that the investors you bring to the deal are your investors to cultivate, which will be your investors when you are ready to syndicate your own deal. You can listen to some of my podcast interviews on my BP page to see how Joe's program was the ultimate launching pad for my success in this area.
Overall, real estate is a relationship business. You can read every book, blog, podcast out there, but can't do a deal without getting in relationship with someone. One could look at the amount that I've spent for events, conferences and mentoring and think I'm crazy when I could have taken that time and money and out it into a deal; which they'd be absolutely right. But my perspective is that I'm not in this just for a deal, but to help me to ask the right questions and ultimately build a business that will last. Relationships that I've developed at these events and mentoring, not including the facilitators themselves, have been worth the "price of admission". Since he's a part of this thread, I'll mention him: I've had the good fortune to meet guys like @Tom Lafferty who is out there doing deals and has been amazing about answering questions and offering advice.
The point is, whatever way you choose, make sure it aligns with your values and goals, and throw your heart and sweat in it. Shelling out cash isn't going to find you deals and make you a success. You're the only one that determines your success. Preaching to the choir here; BP is full of awesome people that are out there doing the thing!
Hi @Jeff Banky, You shouldnt Pay there is Hundreads of guys that like sharing there knowledge, find the clubs in Your area even do I am a Consultant, I dont charge for Talking and holding your hand to the right deal.
do a lot of self education, read and maybe attended some coaching latter, but nothing better then doing it your self and learning, with the best coach you can also fail.
@Tom Lafferty, @Thomas Leonard, I am considering attending Brad's 2 day class in March, I know he will promote sighing up for his program there. Do you think an out-of-state investor like me will benefit it? He is in TX and I am in Ohio. I'd like to meet other apartment investors and maybe do deals together but does it make sense to go all the way to TX? I only want to do local deals , Columbus OH is s great market.
@Jessie Niu, the majority of his students are around Texas and most of the deals are around Texas (it's just a good market). But he has plenty of students around the country and they're doing deals around the country. There was one deal last year where the student was in LA, Brad was in Dallas, and the deal was in New Mexico.
If you're looking for a mentor closer to you, @Joe Fairless is in Cincinatti. But Joe also works with people around the country. So don't let the distance deter you.
Thanks everyone for the input...were good advice from you all.....Taken to heart for sure....Good luck out there and i hope i hva e the pleasure of meeting some of you along the way! Go get em!!
I listen to a lot of podcasts involving Real Estate investing. One common theme that I've learned from those that are successfully doing deals is to find a mentor. The right mentor, and not a Guru, will save you a lot of time and avoid making a lot of mistakes.
@Tom Lafferty, @Thomas Leonard, I am considering attending Brad's 2 day class in March, I know he will promote sighing up for his program there. Do you think an out-of-state investor like me will benefit it? He is in TX and I am in Ohio. I'd like to meet other apartment investors and maybe do deals together but does it make sense to go all the way to TX? I only want to do local deals , Columbus OH is s great market.
Jessie, have you checked out any local groups in Columbus? There are a lot of apartment owners that attend two local meetups that happen every month that I'm sure could help you get an idea of what to do.
@Tom Lafferty, @Thomas Leonard, I am considering attending Brad's 2 day class in March, I know he will promote sighing up for his program there. Do you think an out-of-state investor like me will benefit it? He is in TX and I am in Ohio. I'd like to meet other apartment investors and maybe do deals together but does it make sense to go all the way to TX? I only want to do local deals , Columbus OH is s great market.
Hi Jessie, yes it does make sense to come to Dallas for Brads event, even if you don't do anything further with his group. You will learn a lot! There are a lot of members that live in other states doing deals with mentoring from Brad. It helps if you're able to come to the events if you want to network with others and take full advantage of the group.
@Jeff Banky HI Jeff!! "The Real Estate Guys" are a great source for syndication and sales training. They also have a great Culture within their group and events that are like no other. We have found that having integrity and authenticity are paramount in this industry, as with most industries, and they have both! They have a very "Abundant" mindset (meaning they believe that there is more than enough to go around and that competition is actually a "good thing"). They definitely talk against the "typical guru" for a reason! Gurus may preach integrity and Abundance...but do your due diligence and keep your guard up when evaluating who to give your money to. I wish you Good luck as you begin your search!
Gateway to Multifamily by Jake & Gino has been invaluable to me. It walks you through every step of finding, financing, and running Multifamily properties
@Tom Lafferty, @Thomas Leonard, I am considering attending Brad's 2 day class in March, I know he will promote sighing up for his program there. Do you think an out-of-state investor like me will benefit it? He is in TX and I am in Ohio. I'd like to meet other apartment investors and maybe do deals together but does it make sense to go all the way to TX? I only want to do local deals , Columbus OH is s great market.
One of Brad's previous mentee's did two deals in Ohio. I think that you will meet people from all over the country at Brad's group.
I am a member at Lifestyles Unlimited and have been happy there. Brad Summrock was my mentor at Lifestyles unlimited before he broke off to do his own program. Brad is an excellent teacher and it is well worth it to go to his seminar. I stuck with LifeStyles Unlimited because I paid the fee there and is cheaper for me to maintain the membership than switch. I don't have a lack of deals to choose from. I may at some point join Brad's program if I need more opportunities to purchase at some point. In either program, there are a lot of investors with similar mindsets that are doing deals. It is fascinating to experience.
@Tom Lafferty, @Thomas Leonard, I am considering attending Brad's 2 day class in March, I know he will promote sighing up for his program there. Do you think an out-of-state investor like me will benefit it? He is in TX and I am in Ohio. I'd like to meet other apartment investors and maybe do deals together but does it make sense to go all the way to TX? I only want to do local deals , Columbus OH is s great market.
Jessie, have you checked out any local groups in Columbus? There are a lot of apartment owners that attend two local meetups that happen every month that I'm sure could help you get an idea of what to do.
Thanks Robert, I am looking for a networking group that focus on apartment building, most people in those networking events I've been to at Columbus are SHF investors.
To my knowledge there is an association that you can join of multifamily apartment owners. Ed's dublin landlord meeting has some that own multifamily properties. Other than that I would recommend one on one meetings with property owners. Each time you sit down with someone ask for another recommendation of someone else that owns 10+ multifamily properties. We are agents that sell multifamily properties and i have plenty of connections that would sit down with someone just getting started in columbus if you need one or two to start
It is tough to find REIA's or mentoring groups that are specific to multifamily. The Real Estate Guys put on great events, and I continue to attend them. Their syndication event is a great introduction, has great content and well-informed speakers. They also attract high quality attendees. Just know that it is not focused on any particular asset class, and does not go into depth on any particular topic. They cover a lot, and the event would have to be a week long to go into detail.
I don't know about a lot of the others you mentioned, but I would make sure they have long term experience.