Where Are The Deals!?

Where Are The Deals!?

Member since 2023 · 50 posts · 16 votes

I'll start here... I have 8 doors. I have been involved in many facets of real estate. I am not a newbie but my portfolio is small and I am eager to grow it fast. I like to stick with 2-4 unit properties so I don't need a commercial loan, and I don't have a ton of cash in the event of a massive vacancy or capital investment, so more expensive isn't necessarily in my wheelhouse. I recently started out of state investing in Texas. Since I am out of state, I like to avoid the uncertainty of older home and prefer new builds or houses that are within 10 years old, max. I prefer Texas because it's a landlord friendly state, there is no state income tax so I don't need to file taxes in TX and MA (where I am from), the tenant's pay for a lot of the repairs, maintenance, etc. and there are no snow removal costs. Construction/Labor is cheap and its a growing state with respect to population, and lack of available housing.

All this being said...I CANNOT find a good deal. The houses are expensive, the rents haven't caught up, the int rates are through the roof, and the rent alone cannot even cover the operating expenses and debt service, nevermind turn a profit. Even if I go up to 50% equity, and zero out my vacancy factor, cost to lease, R&M and CapEx underwriting, I barely turn a profit (a few hundred a month). I want find a deal and put in an offer within the next 2 months. How are you all finding anything that makes sense?!

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Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
2y

The proper translation of “I cannot find a good deal” is “I cannot find people stupid enough to leave money on the table.”

The proper response to that is: “Why should they?”

That leads you to the answer: What are you doing to find motivated sellers — people who are willing to leave some money on the table in order to resolve some personal problem or situation?

There are two parties to every sale, and the sale is a zero sum event — every dollar you keep the seller doesn’t get. What are you doing to find motivated sellers who have the houses you want to buy?

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  • Journey TooleBusiness Member
    Realtor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2021 · 39 posts · 21 votes
    2y

    @Selina Giarla

    Hello!

    I think your criteria is a little tight, I won’t speak for every market, but only buying brand new construction limits you quite a bit.

    There are lots of good deals out there. I can send you 8 that I analyzed just today here in Cleveland (older than 10 years old).

    Not many markets that work right now for cashflow with high rates, throw in that you only want brand new construction where prices are even higher. Makes things hard!

    Keep looking! Best of luck.

  • Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    The proper translation of “I cannot find a good deal” is “I cannot find people stupid enough to leave money on the table.”

    The proper response to that is: “Why should they?”

    That leads you to the answer: What are you doing to find motivated sellers — people who are willing to leave some money on the table in order to resolve some personal problem or situation?

    There are two parties to every sale, and the sale is a zero sum event — every dollar you keep the seller doesn’t get. What are you doing to find motivated sellers who have the houses you want to buy?

  • Member since 2023 · 50 posts · 16 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Journey Toole:

    @Selina Giarla

    Hello!

    I think your criteria is a little tight, I won’t speak for every market, but only buying brand new construction limits you quite a bit.

    There are lots of good deals out there. I can send you 8 that I analyzed just today here in Cleveland (older than 10 years old).

    Not many markets that work right now for cashflow with high rates, throw in that you only want brand new construction where prices are even higher. Makes things hard!

    Keep looking! Best of luck.


     Agree, it does make things hard. I could be somewhat flexible on age of the house, but I chose 10 years because if we are living out of state, we would need to rely on local contractors for repairs and capital items, which can be costly and eat up all your annual profit. I appreciate the offer to send the deals you looked at, that would be great. Do you mind sharing your underwriting/proforma? Always curious what other investors are doing to run analysis.

  • Member since 2023 · 50 posts · 16 votes
    2y
    Quote from @John Clark:

    The proper translation of “I cannot find a good deal” is “I cannot find people stupid enough to leave money on the table.”

    The proper response to that is: “Why should they?”

    That leads you to the answer: What are you doing to find motivated sellers — people who are willing to leave some money on the table in order to resolve some personal problem or situation?

    There are two parties to every sale, and the sale is a zero sum event — every dollar you keep the seller doesn’t get. What are you doing to find motivated sellers who have the houses you want to buy?


     I am not so concerned on the house price itself, I am not looking for an under market deal although it would be nice. However, the rents have not caught up to the increase in house prices which are making the metrics impossible to factor. Do you have any suggestions?

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Selina Giarla:

    I'll start here... I have 8 doors. I have been involved in many facets of real estate. I am not a newbie but my portfolio is small and I am eager to grow it fast. I like to stick with 2-4 unit properties so I don't need a commercial loan, and I don't have a ton of cash in the event of a massive vacancy or capital investment, so more expensive isn't necessarily in my wheelhouse. I recently started out of state investing in Texas. Since I am out of state, I like to avoid the uncertainty of older home and prefer new builds or houses that are within 10 years old, max. I prefer Texas because it's a landlord friendly state, there is no state income tax so I don't need to file taxes in TX and MA (where I am from), the tenant's pay for a lot of the repairs, maintenance, etc. and there are no snow removal costs. Construction/Labor is cheap and its a growing state with respect to population, and lack of available housing.

    All this being said...I CANNOT find a good deal. The houses are expensive, the rents haven't caught up, the int rates are through the roof, and the rent alone cannot even cover the operating expenses and debt service, nevermind turn a profit. Even if I go up to 50% equity, and zero out my vacancy factor, cost to lease, R&M and CapEx underwriting, I barely turn a profit (a few hundred a month). I want find a deal and put in an offer within the next 2 months. How are you all finding anything that makes sense?!

     Go out of state. I know dozens that live overseas and all across America, including me and do all their business in the Midwest Double digit net caps are the norm. I get deals sent to me daily. I just locked up 7 more SF all will have about 15% or better net caps. 

    All the best 

  • Mackaylee BeachPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 492 votes
    2y

    I'd be happy to connect with you if you ever consider the Kansas City market.

  • Preston DeanBusiness Member
    Realtor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2021 · 779 posts · 368 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Selina Giarla:

    I'll start here... I have 8 doors. I have been involved in many facets of real estate. I am not a newbie but my portfolio is small and I am eager to grow it fast. I like to stick with 2-4 unit properties so I don't need a commercial loan, and I don't have a ton of cash in the event of a massive vacancy or capital investment, so more expensive isn't necessarily in my wheelhouse. I recently started out of state investing in Texas. Since I am out of state, I like to avoid the uncertainty of older home and prefer new builds or houses that are within 10 years old, max. I prefer Texas because it's a landlord friendly state, there is no state income tax so I don't need to file taxes in TX and MA (where I am from), the tenant's pay for a lot of the repairs, maintenance, etc. and there are no snow removal costs. Construction/Labor is cheap and its a growing state with respect to population, and lack of available housing.

    All this being said...I CANNOT find a good deal. The houses are expensive, the rents haven't caught up, the int rates are through the roof, and the rent alone cannot even cover the operating expenses and debt service, nevermind turn a profit. Even if I go up to 50% equity, and zero out my vacancy factor, cost to lease, R&M and CapEx underwriting, I barely turn a profit (a few hundred a month). I want find a deal and put in an offer within the next 2 months. How are you all finding anything that makes sense?!

     Hey @Selina Giarla I have found some solid deals on the MLS that I have sent along to my bigger pockets investors. I'll send you a connection request

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  • Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Selina Giarla:

    "Rents have not caught up to the increase in house prices" and "I cannot find a good deal" mean one thing: You are trying to fight market forces. You cannot win.

    Let me start first by observing that you didn't tell us what your financial criteria are. You told us you wanted landlord friendly state/city and houses under ten. Not a word about ROI or other measures of dead presidents.

    Second, given that you cannot fight market forces, you can at best evade them for a short while, what are you doing to evade those forces? I mentioned finding sellers who are not indifferent to selling, and therefore are motivated to sell. I asked what you were doing to find those sellers, and you did not say. I can only assume that you're doing nothing to find motivated sellers.

    Third, another poster mentioned going to different markets physically (midwest, foreign) where the market forces might more closely align with your (undisclosed) financial criteria. I see no response from you there.

    So you're looking in places where market forces mean that housing prices have outstripped rents for -- drum roll please -- sub-areas where the surrounding market forces are somehow suspended and don't apply to the sub-area (niche market) you're looking in, and therefore rents/purchase prices meet your (undisclosed) financial criteria. I might add that the suspension of market forces you seek does not come from sellers being motivated.

    You are looking for a unicorn. You can:

    Go to other markets, or;
    Find motivated sellers or;
    Adjust your financial criteria to reflect market forces (either directly or through using some value-add approach after purchase), or;
    Hold off expansion of your empire until the Gods (market forces) see things your way, or;
    Pack it in and play the stock market.

    BTW, drop the "two months" self-imposed deadline: You will wind up doing a deal for the sake of doing a deal, trying to convince yourself it is "good'" not because it actually is "good." That's a disaster waiting to happen.

    Unicorns are cute and all, but being a unicorn hunter is not a good career path.

    Now go, my child, and sin against the market no more.

  • Alecia LovelessPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    2y

    @Selina Giarla My sister has been investing in Denton, Texas for the past 15 years. She has 17 SFH but has not bought anything new in Denton in the past 3-4 years because the property taxes keep going up by at least 30-40% each year which has turned her meager cash flow into almost nothing. She is an attorney so is able to easily fight the property taxes herself through the system without having to hire anyone else to help her but only has marginal success. She was also able to refinance the loans that made sense to near rock bottom rates when rates were low.

    To her it no longer makes sense to invest in Texas for just the same reasons you have mentioned. Costs have increased too much and she’s only been able to increase her rents by about $100/month over the past 4 years.

    She and I have recently partnered to purchase a multi family property elsewhere that has solid cash flow and more stable property taxes and bills.

  • Member since 2023 · 19 posts · 3 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Mackaylee Beach:

    I'd be happy to connect with you if you ever consider the Kansas City market.


     Likewise! I'm a lender that does a lot in KC but can also help in TX and other states you've considered. 

  • Investor · Corpus Christi, TX · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    @Selina Giarla

    Sounds like your sourcing your "deals" from the MLS (retail market), which means you're paying retail most of the time. It's always hard to cash flow retail deals which is why most investors market heavily to locate motivated sellers. Profitable deals are found primarily off market through dedicated marketing or through relationships.

  • Member since 2019 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Selina Giarla:

    I'll start here... I have 8 doors. I have been involved in many facets of real estate. I am not a newbie but my portfolio is small and I am eager to grow it fast. I like to stick with 2-4 unit properties so I don't need a commercial loan, and I don't have a ton of cash in the event of a massive vacancy or capital investment, so more expensive isn't necessarily in my wheelhouse. I recently started out of state investing in Texas. Since I am out of state, I like to avoid the uncertainty of older home and prefer new builds or houses that are within 10 years old, max. I prefer Texas because it's a landlord friendly state, there is no state income tax so I don't need to file taxes in TX and MA (where I am from), the tenant's pay for a lot of the repairs, maintenance, etc. and there are no snow removal costs. Construction/Labor is cheap and its a growing state with respect to population, and lack of available housing.

    All this being said...I CANNOT find a good deal. The houses are expensive, the rents haven't caught up, the int rates are through the roof, and the rent alone cannot even cover the operating expenses and debt service, nevermind turn a profit. Even if I go up to 50% equity, and zero out my vacancy factor, cost to lease, R&M and CapEx underwriting, I barely turn a profit (a few hundred a month). I want find a deal and put in an offer within the next 2 months. How are you all finding anything that makes sense?!


    in the market where multifamily cap rate is 4 to 5 even sometimes 3, it's difficult to be even breakeven. Choice is either buying problematic MF but then problem is the ARV / value add cost ; invest OOS or sell everything. For me I would rather sell it all and put the money to the CD, it's not even worth it anymore considering the low cap rate and huge additional supply that keeps coming up. It would just pressurize the rent. We are entering very slow growth and flattening curve here...

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    2y

    I would drop your 'newer home' criteria. I've always found the deals to be in the fixer-upper category. This usually means an older house.....

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    What's wrong with a few hundred a month? That's still a profit :)

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Are you open to out of state investing? How about Detroit, Baltimore, NEW BEDFORD?

  • Real Estate Agent · Gainesville, FL · Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
    2y

    @Selina Giarla
    I am an investor's realtor and investor based in Gainesville, Fl.
    North central Florida has many good investment opps. Especially with the entry level SFH. Whether it be a fix/flip, STR, MTR, or LTR.

    DM me to discuss

  • Michael SmytheBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Selina Giarla:
    Quote from @John Clark:

    The proper translation of “I cannot find a good deal” is “I cannot find people stupid enough to leave money on the table.”

    The proper response to that is: “Why should they?”

    That leads you to the answer: What are you doing to find motivated sellers — people who are willing to leave some money on the table in order to resolve some personal problem or situation?

    There are two parties to every sale, and the sale is a zero sum event — every dollar you keep the seller doesn’t get. What are you doing to find motivated sellers who have the houses you want to buy?


     I am not so concerned on the house price itself, I am not looking for an under market deal although it would be nice. However, the rents have not caught up to the increase in house prices which are making the metrics impossible to factor. Do you have any suggestions?


     Every investor should be looking for an under-market property!

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  • Rental Property Investor · New Braunfels, TX · Member since 2022 · 408 posts · 408 votes
    2y
    Quote from @John Clark:
    I love this! Well said 🙌 
  • Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    Every investor should be looking for an under-market property!

     A useless bromide, like saying "War is bad and peace is good." I notice you skip right over the heart of the matter, which is HOW is one looking for an under-market property. The original poster never said how she was doing that, but complained that she couldn't find any.

  • Michael SmytheBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @John Clark:
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    Every investor should be looking for an under-market property!

     A useless bromide, like saying "War is bad and peace is good." I notice you skip right over the heart of the matter, which is HOW is one looking for an under-market property. The original poster never said how she was doing that, but complained that she couldn't find any.


     Since you asked so "nicely":

    Why does everyone want to chase strangers – and ignore their own personal network?

    Which do you think will be more competitive, buying from wholesalers or your own referrals?

    Per this NY Times article, the average American knows around 600 people.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/science/the-average-american-knows-how-many-people.html#:~:text=The%20average%20American%20knows%20about,do%20you%20know%20named%20Kevin%3F

    Per the US Census Bureau, the average American moves 11.7 time in their life, which based upon an approximate lifespan of 84 years, works out to be about every 7 years.
    https://www.census.gov/topics/population/migration/guidance/calculating-migration-expectancy.html#:~:text=Using%202007%20ACS%20data%2C%20it,one%20move%20per%20single%20year

    So, if the average American knows 600 people and they each move about every 7 years, that means that the average American knows around 85 people that move in any given year.

    How many of those moves do you want to be involved in?

    To maximize the number of transactions you’re involved in you will need to:

    • Be Top of Mind when they think about moving - which requires consistent reminders.
    • Be seen as an Expert – which requires a consistent message and Evidence of Success stories
    • Gain their Trust – which requires communicating integrity

    So, start out by listing everyone you know in an Excel spreadsheet.

    Why Excel? Because later, you can easily use it as your mailing list! Create columns for Name, Street Address, City, State, Zip and then contact info: Last Contact, Relationship, Status, Email & Phone.

    IMPORTANT: do NOT ask people for THEIR business, ask for referrals! Why? Because they will get defensive if they feel you are pressuring them. Remember, they can always refer themselves😊

    Now, make it a goal to call at least 5-10 of these people EVERY day and ask a MAX OF THREE off the list below of who they know that:

    • Just inherited a home
    • Had a loved one pass away
    • Is behind on their mortgage or tax payments
    • Has a relative that can’t take care of their house anymore
    • Has a house they’re having trouble selling
    • Is facing bankruptcy
    • Knows a probate attorney
    • Knows a bankruptcy attorney
    • etc

    Why only three off the list per contact? Because on average, we can only remember three things at a time. If you try to go over the whole list, you’ll lose the attention of an average person and they won’t remember anything!

    It should only take you about a month or two to contact everyone on your list and then the tough part – you start all over again.

    Why the repetition? Because it takes repetition for people to remember things and you have to be top-of-mind when they encounter a potential client for you!

    Have you ever been to McDonalds? Of course you have! So, why is McDonalds still spending billions on advertising?

    One more tip – people remember stories that trigger their emotions. So, tell a story of how you (or a fellow wholesaler) helped a seller out with their challenge(s). Change your story each month as different stories will resonate with different people AND use each story to emphasize one of your “who do you know…” questions.

    As you start closing deals, you will need to reinvest your profits into mailing lists and other scalable activities to grow your business.

    One last thing – we recommended you create a Status column on your spreadsheet, now we’ll explain why. If you find someone that seems to know a lot of people needing your services, wouldn’t it make sense to focus more resources on them? Conversely, you will run into people on your list that just seem to be a waste of time, so you’ll want to avoid them. So, create status codes for both of these and a few in-between codes to help you work smarter, not harder.

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  • Realtor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2014 · 86 posts · 33 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Bob S.:
    Quote from @Selina Giarla:

    I'll start here... I have 8 doors. I have been involved in many facets of real estate. I am not a newbie but my portfolio is small and I am eager to grow it fast. I like to stick with 2-4 unit properties so I don't need a commercial loan, and I don't have a ton of cash in the event of a massive vacancy or capital investment, so more expensive isn't necessarily in my wheelhouse. I recently started out of state investing in Texas. Since I am out of state, I like to avoid the uncertainty of older home and prefer new builds or houses that are within 10 years old, max. I prefer Texas because it's a landlord friendly state, there is no state income tax so I don't need to file taxes in TX and MA (where I am from), the tenant's pay for a lot of the repairs, maintenance, etc. and there are no snow removal costs. Construction/Labor is cheap and its a growing state with respect to population, and lack of available housing.

    All this being said...I CANNOT find a good deal. The houses are expensive, the rents haven't caught up, the int rates are through the roof, and the rent alone cannot even cover the operating expenses and debt service, nevermind turn a profit. Even if I go up to 50% equity, and zero out my vacancy factor, cost to lease, R&M and CapEx underwriting, I barely turn a profit (a few hundred a month). I want find a deal and put in an offer within the next 2 months. How are you all finding anything that makes sense?!

     Go out of state. I know dozens that live overseas and all across America, including me and do all their business in the Midwest Double digit net caps are the norm. I get deals sent to me daily. I just locked up 7 more SF all will have about 15% or better net caps. 

    All the best 


    This sounds great. I have been looking at high single for SFR BTR. Sent a connection request love to see what you have

  • Realtor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2014 · 86 posts · 33 votes
    2y

    Wow lot of people coming at you for this post and your struggles.  I think this is a more than fair post.  I also do not think you are trying to start a new career finding motivated sellers some other people are really trying to get you to work.  All though knowing what you have to spend would be helpful.  I would imagine you have at least 50k-100k to utilize.  You mention rents not keeping with prices.  Rents will catch up in nearly any place you buy.  There is just not enough homes available. Some experts say as many as 5.5 million homes short.  We can say 3 million to be conservative.  You will see upward pressure on rents.  People who cannot buy will continue to be forced to rent.  Especially for the entry level homes.  I think you just need to possibly look a little more east and maybe deal with some snow.  Plenty of new homes that can cash flow with 20% down at a 7% interest rate.  Instead of buying 2-4 units buy 2 units in a BTR community.  I am in Orange County and nothing cash flows here without at least 50% down.  So out of state is the only play for me.  Happy to connect on what I have found out there.  States I like Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and Indiana. With some interest and more research to do in the Cleveland and Kansas City areas.  I also like north Florida but it is getting a bit too expensive.  

  • Danny RandazzoPro Member
    Apartment Syndicator · Charleston, SC · Member since 2016 · 973 posts · 728 votes
    2y

    @Selina Giarla you should find a local group of investors to meet with on a monthly or biweekly basis to discuss new ideas for sourcing more deals. There are deals out there you just need to look at more volume.

  • Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:
    Quote from @John Clark:
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    Every investor should be looking for an under-market property!

     A useless bromide, like saying "War is bad and peace is good." I notice you skip right over the heart of the matter, which is HOW is one looking for an under-market property. The original poster never said how she was doing that, but complained that she couldn't find any.


     Since you asked so "nicely":

    Why does everyone want to chase strangers – and ignore their own personal network?

    Which do you think will be more competitive, buying from wholesalers or your own referrals?

    Per this NY Times article, the average American knows around 600 people.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/science/the-average-american-knows-how-many-people.html#:~:text=The%20average%20American%20knows%20about,do%20you%20know%20named%20Kevin%3F

    Per the US Census Bureau, the average American moves 11.7 time in their life, which based upon an approximate lifespan of 84 years, works out to be about every 7 years.
    https://www.census.gov/topics/population/migration/guidance/calculating-migration-expectancy.html#:~:text=Using%202007%20ACS%20data%2C%20it,one%20move%20per%20single%20year

    So, if the average American knows 600 people and they each move about every 7 years, that means that the average American knows around 85 people that move in any given year.

    How many of those moves do you want to be involved in?

    To maximize the number of transactions you’re involved in you will need to:

    • Be Top of Mind when they think about moving - which requires consistent reminders.
    • Be seen as an Expert – which requires a consistent message and Evidence of Success stories
    • Gain their Trust – which requires communicating integrity

    So, start out by listing everyone you know in an Excel spreadsheet.

    Why Excel? Because later, you can easily use it as your mailing list! Create columns for Name, Street Address, City, State, Zip and then contact info: Last Contact, Relationship, Status, Email & Phone.

    IMPORTANT: do NOT ask people for THEIR business, ask for referrals! Why? Because they will get defensive if they feel you are pressuring them. Remember, they can always refer themselves😊

    Now, make it a goal to call at least 5-10 of these people EVERY day and ask a MAX OF THREE off the list below of who they know that:

    • Just inherited a home
    • Had a loved one pass away
    • Is behind on their mortgage or tax payments
    • Has a relative that can’t take care of their house anymore
    • Has a house they’re having trouble selling
    • Is facing bankruptcy
    • Knows a probate attorney
    • Knows a bankruptcy attorney
    • etc

    Why only three off the list per contact? Because on average, we can only remember three things at a time. If you try to go over the whole list, you’ll lose the attention of an average person and they won’t remember anything!

    It should only take you about a month or two to contact everyone on your list and then the tough part – you start all over again.

    Why the repetition? Because it takes repetition for people to remember things and you have to be top-of-mind when they encounter a potential client for you!

    Have you ever been to McDonalds? Of course you have! So, why is McDonalds still spending billions on advertising?

    One more tip – people remember stories that trigger their emotions. So, tell a story of how you (or a fellow wholesaler) helped a seller out with their challenge(s). Change your story each month as different stories will resonate with different people AND use each story to emphasize one of your “who do you know…” questions.

    As you start closing deals, you will need to reinvest your profits into mailing lists and other scalable activities to grow your business.

    One last thing – we recommended you create a Status column on your spreadsheet, now we’ll explain why. If you find someone that seems to know a lot of people needing your services, wouldn’t it make sense to focus more resources on them? Conversely, you will run into people on your list that just seem to be a waste of time, so you’ll want to avoid them. So, create status codes for both of these and a few in-between codes to help you work smarter, not harder.

    Which answers the “how” and is a very workable plan. Now to find out what the original poster is doing and how she can implement your plan and other plans. 
  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2019 · 235 posts · 107 votes
    2y

    If you are interested in KCMO, all of the good deals under 10 years of age will be rare, and will need to be acted upon with CASH and speed through a wholesaler. Google New Western KCMO and one of their reps will gladly put you on their email list. I will PM you the one I get off-market properties from. These prices will be 10-15% less than MLS listed properties. Newer homes in desirable areas will come on the MLS under market value, and you can finance these. but they are rare and go quickly.

    Happy to give you a break down of the Kansas City Metro market

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