4 Million Dollars in 4 years - Thank you BP

4 Million Dollars in 4 years - Thank you BP

Shiloh LundahlPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes

I was just updating my portfolio spreadsheet and I noticed that our equity position for our portfolio just surpassed the 4 million dollar mark (the majority of which is split between a partner and me). When I saw that, I sat back and pondered the last 4 years that it took to build up the portfolio and I thought to myself that I am grateful, thankful, and blessed.  

I started with access to about 300k of equity 4 years ago, and along with an awesome partner, a rockstar assistant, some mentors, and the BiggerPockets community, we have built up a real estate portfolio of over 13 million dollars, with 150 properties, and about 30k in monthly cashflow (most of which gets reinvested still at this point).

I'd like to share what I consider were the key factors in spring boarding us from 300k to 4 million in 4 years.

  1. 1. Watching some shows on HGTV and talking with my wife and saying, "We could do that."
  2. 2. Partnering up with a buddy of mine who is a realtor and who had a lot of experience investing in real estate but had lost everything in the crash of '08 and '09.
  3. 3. Going to one of those expensive real estate "guru" courses and making connections with the presenters.
  4. 4. Coming across BiggerPockets in 2016.
  5. 5. Going to another "guru" who teaches about lease options and deciding to switch from flipping properties in 2016 to doing lease options in 2017.
  6. 6. Getting the contact of the banker of one of the presenters at the first "guru" program, making the connection with that banker, and getting approved for 16 loans (1.6 million dollars) in 2017.
  7. 7. Networking with other investors at lunch, listening to podcasts, and combining ideas that lead to the BRRRLO model.
  8. 8. Attracting private money lenders from people who wanted to learn from us.
  9. 9. Starting a meetup in Mesa, Arizona which enabled me to attract more private money lenders.
  10. 10. Getting on the BiggerPockets podcast #287 which enabled me to get onto more podcasts and attract more private money lenders.
  11. 11. Making more connections with bankers which enabled me to continue to get loans on properties and transition to portfolio loans and pay off the private money lenders.
  12. 12. Starting to buy mobile home parks in December of 2018
  13. 13. Switched to a new assistant that is incredible and is able to handle everything we threw at her.
  14. 14. Starting a mastermind group in January of 2019 and another one in March of 2020.
  15. 15. Continued growing and Stabilizing our portfolio and building up cash reserves to handle the pandemic.
  16. 16. Coaching other investors on the BRRRR method and BRRRLO model.

The last 4 years hasn't been without challenges.  Here is a list of things that occurred over the past 4 years that we have had to overcome on our journey.

  1. 1. Lending to a flipper in Phoenix who overestimated the ARV and wasn't able to sell the flips where I was his gap lender. I had to take back the properties, finish the rehabs, and drop the prices in order to sell them. The total loss was about 80k and it took about 9 month back in 2016 and 2017.
  2. 2. I had a contractor whose life started to fall apart and he used my rehab money to try to salvage it.  I ended up losing about 85k with him among 5 properties in 2018.
  3. 3. My original assistant started having difficulties in her life and was not able to complete many of her assigned tasks which slowed us up incredibly.
  4. 3. Bankers that said that they would lend in a few month but then they suddenly decided not to and ghosted me. 
  5. 4. Hard money lenders that committed to lending on deals but then started going through personal challenges and backed out of deals right before the closing table.
  6. 5. A tenant in our mobile home park who was evicted but kept coming back and started one of the mobile homes on fire.
  7. 6. One of our tenants got deep into drugs and then rented out the bedrooms in the place he was renting from us and then we had to go through the whole eviction process for everyone but they kept coming back.  We were super lucky to get the eviction done right before the moratorium freeze.

In truth, it has been a wild ride.  I am grateful for those I have met and those who have helped us along this journey so far.  And especially I am grateful for the connections and associations that I have met through BiggerPockets.  It would have been very difficult to have done this without this great platform.  Thanks BP.

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    Rental Property Investor · Northern NJ · Member since 2019 · 672 posts · 677 votes
    5y

    Thats a hell of a ride, congrats. I alwsys like to ask successful RE investors like yourself, do you feel your equity/properties are protected in case of a severe downturn? What measures have you taken to protect your positions?

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    • Jonathan Taylor SmithBusiness Member
      Rental Property Investor · Durham / Raleigh (Triangle), NC · Member since 2015 · 840 posts · 801 votes
      5y

      Congrats @Shiloh Lundahl - I enjoyed the read here and your episode on BP Podcast. I'm not at your equity level or unit count (YET) - but I've also had a great run these last 4 or 5 years and BP has (and continues to) play a major roll in that. Congrats again!

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    • Rental Property Investor · Northern NJ · Member since 2019 · 672 posts · 677 votes
      5y

      Thats a hell of a ride, congrats. I alwsys like to ask successful RE investors like yourself, do you feel your equity/properties are protected in case of a severe downturn? What measures have you taken to protect your positions?

    • Joe S.Pro Member
      Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
      5y

      Pretty impressive. So of the 30 K monthly that  you cash flow  half of that is your partners? 

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Joe S. Correct. Half of the equity and half of the cash flow will go to each of us when we start taking profits.

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Mark F. the Corona Virus lead us to reconsider our liquidity. At the beginning of the year our burn rate was 2 months. Now we at are a 8-10 month burn rate if everyone were to stop paying in our units.

    • Rental Property Investor · Northern NJ · Member since 2019 · 672 posts · 677 votes
      5y
      Originally posted by @Shiloh Lundahl:

      @Mark F. the Corona Virus lead us to reconsider our liquidity. At the beginning of the year our burn rate was 2 months. Now we at are a 8-10 month burn rate if everyone were to stop paying in our units.

      Awesome, love to hear it. Seen your posts before on BP,  thanks for all your contributions. I'm hoping for the same in holdings (still love my full time job) in 5 years. Thanks for sharing your faults as well. 

    • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5y

      @Shiloh Lundahl congrats on your success and perseverance! What are your longterm goals/plans?

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Brian G. I know it sounds cliche, but my financial goals are to 10X where I am right now within the next 10 years.  My financial goal is 100 million in assets with 20 million in personal equity and 150k in monthly cash flow.

    • Rental Property Investor · Brooke Park Drive · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
      5y

      Is there any free cash flow to your pocket, or it all goes to paying back investors?

    • Kansas City / MO · Member since 2019 · 5 posts · 0 votes
      5y

      @Shiloh Lundahl Thank you for sharing these great experiences.

    • Rental Property Investor · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2020 · 75 posts · 39 votes
      5y

      It's been inspiring to interact with you on BP and be a virtual attendee at your meetups! Congratulations on your success! Looking forward to continuing to follow your journey, and hoping to meet you in person when we come back to the east valley.

    • Ian WalshBusiness Member
      Lender · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5y

      Congrats!

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Account Closed The 30k in cash flow is after all expenses, including interest on payments to private lenders, are paid. But as I mentioned above, We haven't been taking the cash flow yet. We have kept reinvesting it into the businesses.

    • I​nvestor & Agent · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5y

      @Shiloh Lundahl

      Inspiring, practical, simple and wise. Thanks for writing this. I am and will be emulating many of these things as I hope my 4yr upward trajectory is now - 2024.

    • Rental Property Investor · Chandler AZ and Sylvania, OH · Member since 2009 · 708 posts · 561 votes
      5y

      @Shiloh Lundahl congrats buddy. Look forward to catching up soon.

    • Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 9 votes
      5y

      What a fantastic success story...can't wait till I can write mine! In the meantime, thanks for the inspiration. I know it can be done & I'm working my way there. :) I'll be listening to your podcast on the way home from my day job today!

    • Arlington, VA · Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 7 votes
      5y

      @Shiloh Lundahl congrats that is awesome, always wanted to get into lease options, advice on where to start? Great you mention the fails and as well the wins. It's never easy but definitely worth it! 

    • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
      5y

      That is awesome @Shiloh Lundahl and of course the secret sauce in your success is your hustle and determination. Most people won't do one of those 16 things you mentioned, let alone all 16. I am curious on your personal assistant, is that a virtual one or someone local you hired? 

    • Joe S.Pro Member
      Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
      5y
      Originally posted by @Shiloh Lundahl:

      @Account Closed The 30k in cash flow is after all expenses, including interest on payments to private lenders, are paid. But as I mentioned above, We haven't been taking the cash flow yet. We have kept reinvesting it into the 


      If you’re putting everything back into the business where are you getting your funding to feed your family and pay your own personal bills?

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Joe Splitrock our assistant is an in person local assistant. She manages all of our projects and our properties. We are now in the process of finding another assistant because of our growth. I don’t want to burn her out. She has shared with us and in our meetup groups that she really enjoys working with us and the things she is learning from us. We have helped her acquire 4 of her own properties. 

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Joe S. I pay my living expenses with my counseling practice income. I do real estate part time (even though my wife would say I do it full time).

    • Investor · Marin County California · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
      5y

      Is the $9 million you owe now mostly bank debt or private money?  Curious as to the average interest rate you have had to pay to assemble that large an amount of financing over 4 years.

    • Joe S.Pro Member
      Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
      5y

      @Shiloh Lundahl Do you have a physical office location that you run your Real estate business out of? Does your assistant work from home?

    • Shiloh LundahlPro Member
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      Rental Property Investor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5y

      @Joe S. No. I don’t have a dedicated real estate office. I just have my counseling practice office. My assistant works from everywhere and anywhere. She has the work phone, her laptop, and she works from out in the field.

    • Brian BoydPro Member
      USA · Member since 2019 · 305 posts · 536 votes
      5y

      That is an incredible story. Congrats on your hard earned success!

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