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Douglas Underwood
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Blanket loan or LOC Needed on Portfolio of Duplexes for LLC

Douglas Underwood
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Posted Jun 29 2023, 16:04

I have a LLC in Washington state that owns a 24 unit portfolio in Kansas. I currently have a commercial loan on these and would like to take a loan out against the value of the properties but not sure the best approach/structure. Any advice and or recommendations would be appreciated.

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Greg Scott#2 Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice Contributor
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Replied Jun 29 2023, 17:18

Find an investor-friendly local bank that does portfolio loans.  It is best to reach out to local contacts to find a good one.  Just be sure that if you want to sell one asset out of the portfolio, they can isolate that one and you can sell that one like it had its own mortgage.  

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Replied Jun 29 2023, 18:10

We just closed two loans on similar situations earlier this week...one was a blanket and one we did each property individually. The biggest concern for each was partial releases. The one that closed yesterday was the blanket. It has partial releases at 120% of the amount allocated to each property. Let's say a loan is 4 pretty equal properties of $1M. Let's say they allocate each property an amount of $250K. If they want to sell and release one, then you would need to give them notice about the release and pay 1.2 times the allocated amount, or $300K. A blanket is a lot easier and less expensive to close, but its harder to do releases. To me, that's the big difference. 

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Replied Jun 29 2023, 18:20
Quote from @Douglas Underwood:

I have a LLC in Washington state that owns a 24 unit portfolio in Kansas. I currently have a commercial loan on these and would like to take a loan out against the value of the properties but not sure the best approach/structure. Any advice and or recommendations would be appreciated.


 I agree with first checking local CU's and Commercial banks that offer portfolio loans with an "OK on partial releases". I have seen several investors looking to refinance an individual property on a blanket loan and they won't be able to because of the partial release requirement. 

Or just refinance them individually. 

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Replied Jul 11 2023, 10:51

Hi @Douglas Underwood. Have you thought about doing a cashout refi DSCR loan? It could be an option. We do them for investing clients often. I even do them my for my own portfolio of properties.

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Tanner Lewis
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Replied Jul 11 2023, 14:44

Hi Douglas, I am currently closing a deal on a portfolio in Topeka, Kansas. With this deal, we are wrapping all the properties into a portfolio and underwriting them with one loan for a cash-out refi. It is a simple process and not too different from lending on an individual property.

If you are interested in connecting, feel free to DM me and I'd love to help you with securing financing!

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Replied Jul 18 2023, 07:09

Should be able to do these as a DSCR refinance and depending on property values can refinance all 24 into a long-term 30 year loan.

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Replied Aug 14 2023, 15:25

@Greg Scott Thank you!

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Replied Aug 14 2023, 15:26

@Doug Smith Excellent explanation! Thanks Doug!

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Replied Aug 14 2023, 15:29

@Zach Edelman Thanks Zach!

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Replied Aug 14 2023, 15:30

@Tanner Lewis Thanks Tanner!

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Replied Aug 14 2023, 15:31

@Erik Estrada Thanks Erik! I’ll look out for that.