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DSCR bait & switch. Any ideas?

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We are under contract on a house that will be used as an STR. Our loan deadline is tomorrow (Monday). We finally received the DSCR ratio terms on Friday. Long story short, they are not including the unconforming basement bedrooms in their anlaysis (which is literally just the general # that Airdna pulls up). This means we are going to have to go with a higher rate with worse terms and more points. We are super pissed off. The actual appraisal of the house came in over what we are paying - but that appraisal DID have the legal description as a 2 Bed. 1.5 bath so this is what they put into airdna. It's actually a 5 BR, 2.5 bath. The house is 3000 sq feet and we chose this lender because they said they did a deep use analysis (not just do a 1 second search on airdna w/ the legal description from the appraisal). Obviously we are going to put in egress windows in the BR's in the basement (to make them comforming) and finish off the 1 bathroom that is in bad shape due to water line replacement (which I guess is why the appraiser didn't count it) but we feel totally taken advantage of. I spent soooooo much time talking to lenders to find out their process and how the ratio would be calculated. They totally lied to us and didn't have anyone with a brain even think through it. This isn't our first rodeo and the other house we have in this area is just up the street and is our best performing of our portfolio - but 1/3 of the size of this new house. We think the sellers would be open to an extension if we can make something happen. We would even go with another lender if it's possible (and suck up and pay the 2nd appraisal, etc). I guess I'm asking if there's another way around this that we are not thinking about... we even thought about getting a hard $ loan for a couple months in order to close, do the egress windows and finish the bathroom, and then refi into a DSCR (with a dif lender) but I don't think rates are going to be as good as the rate we are getting now. Doesn't look they are going in the direction we need them to go. Ugh.

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If they are not conforming then they are not going to be counted. So while appraisal may be higher income could be lower which impacts the DSCR ratio

what most people don't realize is DSCR loans get orginiated and sold to institutions and or securitized so the underwriting box is not flexible and very rigid. What makes it challenging is many times the underwriter is corresponding the loan to sell to someone bigger and will try and make everything work when it probably doesn't which leads to these frustrations / issues.

can you go with greater down payment to get back to the old terms? Also was there any rate lock as rates have gone up over past month that also could be impacting rates 

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