I'm a first time OOS investor from California and I'm inquiring into CPAs/Tax attorneys to make sure everything is done correctly. Does anyone have any recommendations? Looking for Tax professionals who understand investing out of state and in multiple states through an LLC.
I was also curious about price points. I got quoted at $5,000/year for tax and accounting services. Is this within normal price range?
This is a great place to be starting from, and you’re asking the right questions early.
One thing to be careful of right away is setting up an LLC with both you and your wife as members. Spousal multi-member LLCs often create what's treated as a "spousal partnership," which means you now have a partnership filing requirement (Form 1065) each year. That adds cost, complexity, and ongoing compliance that isn't always necessary at your stage.
In many cases, a cleaner structure is to keep things in a single-member LLC, paired with a holding company and potentially a trust above that. That setup tends to be more flexible, easier to manage from a tax filing standpoint, and still gives you the structure you need as you scale. That said, everyone's situation is a little different, so it's important to tailor it to your long-term plan.
As for fees, around $5,000 for tax prep and ongoing consulting is pretty standard depending on the complexity of your situation, especially once you start adding entities and multiple properties.
@Austin De La Cruz - welcome! What states are you invested in? And how many properties do you have? Is the LLC a single member or multi member?
We're first time investors looking into Dayton Ohio, Knoxville TN, Augusta GA, and OKC. We don't have any properties yet but we've been talking to agents and lenders in these areas. Nor do we have an LLC but we're looking to make one with both me and my wife's name on it
This is a great place to be starting from, and you’re asking the right questions early.
One thing to be careful of right away is setting up an LLC with both you and your wife as members. Spousal multi-member LLCs often create what's treated as a "spousal partnership," which means you now have a partnership filing requirement (Form 1065) each year. That adds cost, complexity, and ongoing compliance that isn't always necessary at your stage.
In many cases, a cleaner structure is to keep things in a single-member LLC, paired with a holding company and potentially a trust above that. That setup tends to be more flexible, easier to manage from a tax filing standpoint, and still gives you the structure you need as you scale. That said, everyone's situation is a little different, so it's important to tailor it to your long-term plan.
As for fees, around $5,000 for tax prep and ongoing consulting is pretty standard depending on the complexity of your situation, especially once you start adding entities and multiple properties.
If that $5,000 includes books, taxes, + strategy for a moderately complex situation...that sounds fairish.
If that $5,000 is just for bookkeeping for a few out-of-state rental properties plus your annual federal, California, and other-state(s) tax returns...that's sounding a bit steep.
Hey Austin — Ashish is spot on about the spousal LLC, and since you're in California (a community property state) this matters even more: a multi-member LLC with your wife means you're filing a Form 1065 partnership return every year plus K-1s plus California's $800 minimum franchise tax on the LLC, all before you even touch the other states. You can elect to treat a spousal LLC as disregarded in a community property state, but the cleaner move starting out is usually a single-member LLC. On the multi-state side, California is going to tax your worldwide income regardless, so you'll file CA plus non-resident returns in OH, GA, and OK (Tennessee has no state income tax on rental income — one less return). As for the $5K quote, that's reasonable if it includes tax prep, entity guidance, bookkeeping support, and year-round planning — if it's just filing, push back and ask what else you're getting. Happy to connect if you want to talk through the setup before you buy.
You can elect to treat a spousal LLC as disregarded in a community property state, but the cleaner move starting out is usually a single-member LLC
Can you elaborate more on this? My husband and I are starting to invest. We live and will be buying in Texas which is also community property state. He is the personable one and I'm the number cruncher so we would both be participating.
There's a lot to cover here, so I will simply say anything less than $2k will likely be rushed and/or miss out on details that could save you significant amounts.
$2-$8k is totally fair for multiple states, properties, returns, strategy, etc.
What you need is someone to help you execute the filings, not just deliver a plan.
Congrats on acquiring some rentals outside of California.
It is hard to guage whether $5,000 is a high quote or a normal quote. It will depend on what you have going on, what services are included, how many rentals you have, are the LLC's considered disregarded, etc.
You may want to get a couple of quotes and move forward where you feel like you are being given value.