Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2014 · 232 posts · 165 votes
Hey BP - does anyone mind sharing an example of their real estate professional logbook? Would love to see an example of some real life qualifying activities and what you're including.
@Sean O'Keefe - Hi Sean - would you mind sending me a copy as well? Thanks in advance!
No worries, sent you sample material, participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2023 · 26 posts · 15 votes
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@Sean O'Keefe when you get a chance can you share sample material participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)?
@Sean O'Keefe when you get a chance can you share sample material participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)?
Sure, you got it! I just sent you sample material participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)
Sure, you got it! I just sent you sample material participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)
Happy to share what mine looks like. I keep it very simple but consistent: date, property, time spent, and a brief description of the activity. Real-life qualifying tasks I log include reviewing listings and underwriting deals, coordinating with property managers and contractors, approving repairs, tenant communications, lease reviews, bookkeeping, and planning improvements. I usually add notes on why the activity was necessary and whether it was operational or management-related. I track time daily or weekly so nothing gets backfilled months later. Personally, I use a structured log system that timestamps entries and keeps everything organized in case it’s ever questioned, which gives me peace of mind without overthinking it.
Happy to share what mine looks like. I keep it very simple but consistent: date, property, time spent, and a brief description of the activity. Real-life qualifying tasks I log include reviewing listings and underwriting deals, coordinating with property managers and contractors, approving repairs, tenant communications, lease reviews, bookkeeping, and planning improvements. I usually add notes on why the activity was necessary and whether it was operational or management-related. I track time daily or weekly so nothing gets backfilled months later. Personally, I use a structured log system that timestamps entries and keeps everything organized in case it’s ever questioned, which gives me peace of mind without overthinking it.
Happy to share what mine looks like. I keep it very simple but consistent: date, property, time spent, and a brief description of the activity. Real-life qualifying tasks I log include reviewing listings and underwriting deals, coordinating with property managers and contractors, approving repairs, tenant communications, lease reviews, bookkeeping, and planning improvements. I usually add notes on why the activity was necessary and whether it was operational or management-related. I track time daily or weekly so nothing gets backfilled months later. Personally, I use a structured log system that timestamps entries and keeps everything organized in case it’s ever questioned, which gives me peace of mind without overthinking it.
I'd love a copy. Thank you!
Sure, you got it! I will send you sample material participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)
I would also love a copy of the tracker. Thank you!
Sure, you got it! I will send you the sample material, participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in the IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)
I would also love a copy of the tracker. Thank you!
Sure, you got it! I will send you the sample material, participation activity tracker / REPS Log that follows the guidance suggested in the IRS Audit Techniques Guide (ATG)
Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 5 votes
7mo
Coming to this thread late but figured I would share what we are doing since we are in the middle of our first year qualifying.
My wife manages our two 3-unit buildings full-time and is tracking every hour against the 750-hour threshold and 50% test. The biggest lesson so far: the IRS does not care how many hours you worked if you cannot prove it with contemporaneous records. Reconstructing a log at tax time is exactly what they look for in an audit.
What we track for every entry: date, start time, end time, property address, activity category (we use the IRS audit guide categories: property management, tenant relations, maintenance coordination, bookkeeping, acquisitions research, etc.), and a brief description of what was actually done. The description matters because "property management 3 hours" will not survive an audit but "coordinated plumber for unit 2 leak, called tenant to schedule access, followed up on repair completion" will.
A few categories people forget to log: driving time to and from properties (counts), time spent researching new acquisitions (counts toward the 750 hours if you are in real property trades or businesses), reviewing financials and bookkeeping for rental properties (counts), and time spent on compliance like lead paint inspections or Section 8 paperwork.
We were using a spreadsheet at first but it was hard to keep up with daily. I ended up building a tool (Brickfolio, brickfolio.org, free beta) that has a built-in timer so my wife can start and stop tracking as she works, with the activity categories pre-loaded from the IRS audit guide. It also ties each entry to the specific property so the log has built-in corroboration with the actual property records. Not for everyone but it solved the "I forgot to log yesterday" problem for us.
The non-RE work tracking is the part most people miss. The 50% test means you need to prove that more than half of all personal service hours were in real property. If you have a W-2 job, that is hard. If your spouse does not have a W-2 and manages full-time, tracking their non-RE hours (volunteering, side gigs, etc.) is just as important as tracking the RE hours to prove the ratio.