Starting off with a 500k trust & Hello! (help)

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Starting off with a 500k trust & Hello! (help)

Robert Chambers
New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes

Hello everyone, I am lucky to have a 500k after taxes inheritance to spend (I am 20 w 0 debt) I have done a lot of following with Grant Cardone, Graham Stephen, Meet Kevin and Matt McKeever. Right now I am currently looking for a type of personal mentor ship. I am going to two real estate conventions in my area this upcoming month. Does anyone have any tips for my first investment?

Thanks!

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Billy Smith
Shawnee Mission, KS · Member since 2016 · 719 posts · 313 votes
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Tip toe into a small rental ,grab a realtor and jump in .I would never mention how much money you have, keep that to yourself .

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  • Aaron K.
    Specialist · Riverside, CA · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Don't buy any classes at these conventions as they are likely ripoffs, For someone in your position I'd probably start with a rental and see if you even like real estate and then you can decide where to go from there.

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

    Don't buy any classes at these conventions as they are likely ripoffs, For someone in your position I'd probably start with a rental and see if you even like real estate and then you can decide where to go from there.

    Thank you, 

    Some of the conventions are free and some are 25-50 bucks. I bought and will attend some to get to know other real estate like minded individuals that are local. I have watched over a thousand hours of content in real estate. Its my time to shine. :)

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  • Nick Rutkowski
    Rental Property Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Robert Chambers

    I second the not spending money on classes.

    You want to learn how to invest then buy a duplex, live in one side, and start small. I’d buy on the cheaper side and not blow your money. What if you end up not liking real estate and you spent all your money? Oops. Good luck man!

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    Im not sure where everyone is getting the idea of me buying classes. That was not listed. Just going to conventions. Real estate is an investment. I like money. I like real estate and once again I like real estate. Sounds like I wouldn't be leveraging any money @Nick Rutkowski which is an important part.

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  • Bill HamptonBusiness Member
    Accredited Investment Fiduciary, AIF®, Financial Planner, Tax Strategist, Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 977 votes
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    @Robert Chambers 

    Welcome to Bigger Pockets. 

    Have you thought about hiring a fee-only financial planner who can help you put a plan together and help manage your assets? Look for someone that doesn't get paid by commission and is a fiduciary. 

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Bill Hampton

    Considering I haven't heard of a fee-only financial planner nor a fiduciary, I have not taken this into account. I'm not sure if I would be better off investing the 500k in multiple funds hopefully receive 6%+ profit and use a portion of that money to invest into real estate Since I have no expenses at the moment. This method would be the safest I believe. The investments would be single family home rental properties then hopefully a large multi-family complex.

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  • Bill HamptonBusiness Member
    Accredited Investment Fiduciary, AIF®, Financial Planner, Tax Strategist, Real Estate Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 977 votes
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    Fiduciary means the financial planner is obligated to do what is in your best interest, not his. 

    Fee-only means that he only charges you a flat fee or hourly fee for his services and does not get a commission for selling you a stock, bond, or mutual fund. 

    I'm not saying mutant funds are better or worse than real estate, I'm recommending that you have a plan whatever you decide to do, and don't put all your eggs in one basket. 

    Good luck and feel free to message me if you have any questions. 

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  • Matthew Song Loong
    Property Manager · Zurich, Switzerland · Member since 2019 · 28 posts · 5 votes
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    Uff, it takes me quite some time to get 500k :-)

    Here in Czech Republic, you can get a private banker for that amount, he/she will then advise how to make that money last... And you'll get "free" airport lounge access to make your flights more comfortble :D

    Anyways, aAlthough I would have a slight idea what to do with $500k, you may have different ideas/preferences/etc.
    I'd just try out a few things, and stick to whatever you like to do (dip your toe). Just make sure you're not doing anything "silly" (which may be many people's traps)

    Don't forget to enjoy too!

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  • Brandon Hicks
    Investor · Avilla, IN · Member since 2013 · 796 posts · 769 votes
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    @Robert Chambers

    Don’t invest it yourself...at least not all of it. Put $50k in 7-8 different syndication projects with GOOD syndicators and then invest the rest of it yourself.

    I’d really just put it all in good syndication deals honestly. You should roughly double your money in 5 years and 4x it in 10. By age 30 you’ll have a much better grasp on what you want from life than you do now and you’ll have $2m to go forward with those new and more refined goals.

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  • Billy Smith
    Shawnee Mission, KS · Member since 2016 · 719 posts · 313 votes
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    Tip toe into a small rental ,grab a realtor and jump in .I would never mention how much money you have, keep that to yourself .

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  • John Crabtree
    Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 7 votes
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    Congratulations on the Inheritance.  It was a major blessing that your loved one planned ahead and left such a generous gift to change his/her family tree. Don't feel rushed to do anything.  If you get in a hurry that money will start disappearing.  It's great that you are consuming a lot of content on investing and that we live in a world where that information is readily available.

    There are many different ways to invest and locating a niche that you are passionate about is a good first step to determine if flipping, renting apartment buildings, renting single family homes, renting commercial, airbnb, or any other option is where you want to be.  Then see if you want to self manage or hire a property manager.  Within each of these classes are different subsets.  

    I would physically start by either A, getting a job working for a property management company, or B, buying a low cost house and diving in.  My first house was $6K at a tax auction.  Low dollar houses are a great way to learn.   Either way you would have inexpensive hands on learning.  Learning how to repair / replace almost everything in a house takes a long time to learn and is invaluable in the long run, even if you don't plan on always doing to work yourself.  Knowing how to do the work, how long it takes, and what it actually costs, will make you a better real estate investor.  From a property management company you can learn in depth the screening/leasing process and the eviction process in your area.  

    Treat this money like each $100 is your child.  Someone worked like hell to build that wealth over decades.  Each $100 needs to be fiercely protected. I have a friend who inherited $250K really young and by the time he was 32 it was all gone.

    I would today, keep $25K in cash at all times. Then invest $100,000 into stock market index funds in a taxable account and each year use gains from this to fully fund a Roth IRA or better yet a solo 401K if you go the self employed route. These 2 moves hedge you from running out of money. $100K at 20 invested in index funds earning 7% at 65 will be roughly $2.2M.

    Then use the remaining $375K towards Real estate investing, which is more than enough to get started. I like the sub30K market myself, but its certainly not for everyone. I personally would only do 1 low cost house to get started.   

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  • Carl FischerPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ambler, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Robert Chambers

    What real estate experience do you have? What investment experience do you have? Who do you know that is doing what you would like to do? Take your time- there is no rush. Return on your money is important -return

    OF your money is more important.

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  • Dawn BrenengenBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Robert Chambers People are telling you not to buy classes because you are young and may not have figured out that those free real estate conventions are sales pitches for bigger, more expensive courses. I'm not saying they have no value and you shouldn't go, but I am saying to be careful and DO NOT fall for the sales pitch.  Everything they will teach you, you can learn here for free.

    As far as the money goes, if you don't own your personal home, I would buy one, maybe house hacking it to roommates or buy a small multi-family and rent out the other units. If you like doing that, you can buy additional properties. You can diversify by investing in syndications, notes, flips or index funds as well.  There are sooooo many avenues you can take, so I recommend just going out there and trying a few things.

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Matthew Song Loong 

    Haha, thank you very much for your advice. I don't know and haven't heard of a private banker personally. A cool idea though! 

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Brandon Hall

    Hey thanks for your reply!

    Yes, spreading it out through multiple syndication's was an original idea. Investing the majority of it and then using the investments return to invest into stuff myself.  But time is also money, and 10 years of my life to 4x my money could be done quicker through getting that personal experience in ASAP! I think a good balance would be great here. 

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Billy Smith

    Thanks for your advice!

    This is what I am mostly looking into. I want to grab two properties  hopefully 4/2's and househack one and completely rent out the other after some renovations. I know I shouldn't dive into a 32 unit deal because I just lack the experience. I will be going to a convention soon to find people with more experience than me and maybe they will have words of advice.

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @John Crabtree

    Thanks for your thought out post!

    Thats awesome getting your first place at 6k. I am hoping to purchase 2 single family homes and do renovations in each. I am very knowledgeable of money and already have those savings/retirement accounts in place. I budget everything. 1% of profits can go a long way! 

    Thanks for your advice. I hope to share my story throughout the years.

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Carl Fischer

    Hey thanks for replying!

    The real estate experience that I have is hours of content from youtube and books. I have always invested my money since before I was given this trust. I successfully saved and invested 10k till I was 18. With of course some losses here and there. I now have that in a syndication earning 8%+ a year. I don't know many people who like doing what I want to do except for all the youtubers that I watch. 

    Thanks for your words of wisdom. I wonder how to get financing with 0 income :)

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Dawn Brenengen

    Yes, Thanks!

    I appreciate the time informing me of the sales pitches. 

    I will have to go into multiple avenues to find out which one works best for me. 

    Thank you.

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  • Nick Rutkowski
    Rental Property Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Robert Chambers

    Fair enough. All I’m saying is don’t waste all your money until you know you want to be an investor. It’s not a foolish thing to say to buy a cheaper duplex, say for 100k, rent one side and live in the other. You’re looking to gain experience and a better insight on what you want. Take 20k out of your 500k and get a loan. There’s your leverage and all your money isn’t wasted.

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Nick Rutkowski

    Thank you for all your information brother!

    I think I am going to invest 400k in with a professional manager and a diversified portfolio, and use the income and dividends to make my own real estate investments and keep a 100k cash reserve for fixing!

    How does that sound?

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  • Nick Rutkowski
    Rental Property Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Robert Chambers

    It’s your money man, I think however you want to invest it works for me. I just want you to be successful and happy with your decisions. Good luck man, if you are in NY, get in touch with me.

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  • Robert Chambers
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    New to Real Estate · South Florida · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 11 votes
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    @Nick Rutkowski

    Will do kind sir.

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  • Lynnette E.
    Rental Property Investor · TN · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Robert Chambers:

    @Nick Rutkowski

    Thank you for all your information brother!

    I think I am going to invest 400k in with a professional manager and a diversified portfolio, and use the income and dividends to make my own real estate investments and keep a 100k cash reserve for fixing!

    How does that sound?

     That sounds like a good plan, just do NOT get talked into annuities.  They give you a fixed amount of money as income, but at a great cost to you.  You can do better investing the money, but the folks who sell them get a real big commission for finding a sucker to buy one, so they push them a lot.  

    Additionally, you could take $100k and use that to buy yourself a house and house hack it, put $100k in your reserves/emergency fund and $300k for the financial manager to invest.  That lets you have a place to live and gets you started in investing as the other money grows.  The $100k in reserve can be invested in step cds through the financial manager as he can get a much better interest rate than you can directly, or anyways mine does. Step cds will have some money coming available each month for emergencies.

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  • Brent Paul
    Rental Property Investor · Shakopee, MN · Member since 2015 · 985 posts · 374 votes
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    With the amount of money you have that should give you quite a variety of options.  Definitely don't mention how much money you have at a convention or you will likely be bombarded with people.  If anyone asks just say you might have enough for a downpayment.

    If you want to grow fast you could house hack a house or two.  Purchase them with down payments instead of all cash.   I don't see any reason you can't generate passive income for life with a solid plan.  Personally I wouldn't invest 100% of it in real estate.

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