Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
For those of you guys that still have day jobs... Does your employer know about your REI. I would like to hear the pros and cons of both sides. I will go first. My employer is fully aware that I am investor and close deals. I try to be honest in everything I do so when I needed off of work for closings/etc I was honest. I do not have a problem with this approach as my manager owns his own store outside of the company. The owners also own several companies. It has opened up good dialogue and if anything has only seemed to have a positive impact. When I need off early or to work a half day they have no problem with it. I also am a top sales rep for them so that could have something to do with it. I don't share specifics or details however. I won't tell them how much I am making/have made. They do not know that I run a direct mail campaign.
Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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I am a buy and hold investor with a full time unrelated job. My boss doesn't know and most of my co-workers don't know either. If I need time, I take the time I have coming to me and rarely share its purpose for RE or otherwise. My business is my own business. Its not so much a secret as that I am in general private and keep some parts of my life separate from others. I will say that if someone asked I would be truthful but it's an unrelated field and I am not in the office much so it would rarely come up. Now I know the more typical real estate person is networking but it isn't one of my strong points.
Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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I am a buy and hold investor with a full time unrelated job. My boss doesn't know and most of my co-workers don't know either. If I need time, I take the time I have coming to me and rarely share its purpose for RE or otherwise. My business is my own business. Its not so much a secret as that I am in general private and keep some parts of my life separate from others. I will say that if someone asked I would be truthful but it's an unrelated field and I am not in the office much so it would rarely come up. Now I know the more typical real estate person is networking but it isn't one of my strong points.
Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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Great answer @Colleen F. My job requires that I am in the office from 9-6 so I don't have much choice. That being said I don't "network" at work. My Real Estate isn't at the point where it can support me.
Rental Property Investor · Boca Raton, FL · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 713 votes
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I have a regular day job, and my boss knows about my investing. As long as it doesn't interfere, there is nothing to complain about. However, I work in IT, so I can work anywhere there is an internet connection. And I am the Director, so if I want to work from home, I have to ask myself for permission. Like today... I gave myself permission to work from home. So, generally I will work a 12-14 hour day from home and I listen to podcasts and audio books while I work in my home office, and check BP and MLS in my down time. I can be pretty productive in my pjs...
Investor · Columbus, MT · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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My boss knows and is has not been openly opposed. As long as I get my work done, I feel content knowing my job is OK. I live in a small town and just about everyone knows when we move. We do live in rehabs to rentals. On number 3 now.
Rental Property Investor · Oakland, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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Yes, and I work in a related industry. They understand employees want to make some extra income on the side, and whether that be trading stocks, investing in real estate, or whatever it may be..
Rental Property Investor · Indialantic, FL · Member since 2014 · 34 posts · 21 votes
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Yes, my boss is aware that I have a small portfolio of buy & holds. In fact, he has one income property himself! Our jobs are unrelated to RE, so we don't really discuss RE investment.
Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 39 posts · 13 votes
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My boss and my coworkers know about my investing. No one really cares because we are all really close (we spend lots of time together outside of work hours, everyone knows everyone else's spouse and significant others very well, etc.). I have one coworkers that has millions of dollars in property and 20 years of RE experience so I talk about RE a lot to her because she gives awesome advice. I am in a completely unrelated field (health care) but many of us have second jobs for additional income, including myself, so RE is just a third stream of income and everyone understands (or probably doesn't care). However, if I were at my old job in finance, I would NEVER mention RE to them. I just really trust this team of people.
@John Van Uytven You're teaching English in Korea? I did the same thing in Japan and really enjoyed it. Hope you're loving it, too.
Real Estate Broker · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2014 · 34 posts · 24 votes
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My dad has shared some great advice with me. "People want to see you do well, just not as well as them." While that seems pretty petty, a lot of people are exactly like that. I think it really comes down to the individual person. Some bosses are great and want the best for all of their employees, and some are insecure middle managers.
I realize I'm the flip side from most of the other commenters, but I work for a small company and I see some petty BS occasionally. When I finally get going(looking for my first buy and hold right now) I will most likely not let my bosses know, if at all possible.
Real Estate Investor · Lansdowne, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 656 votes
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Yes my department mgr, colleagues, close friends and loved ones all know about me being in real estate investments and that I'm about to get my sales license. Anyone at work that I've held more than a few conversations with knows what I do on the side and that I eventually plan on replacing my day job with REI altogether. There are a few of my colleagues that own rental properties(one or more) but they don't consider themselves investors. No shame or fear on my part, it is what it is!
The only thing I wouldn't do is let them know how much money I make on the side, at least not until I'm winding down to a year or less to go before I'm gone for good. The amount of hateful jealousy that'd bring would be too unbarable to co-exist in an office setting.
Don't do it! There is a tendency to want to tell people of your proud-full accomplishments. But from the other side of the equation, non-real estate investors will not understand the costs of expenses and mortgages which dwindle the net return. Some people will even be jealous and some people will view you as a less serious employee, and your investments could hamper your chances of corporate promotion as some people will view it as you don't need the money. That's a real injustice as a property or two will never replace your corporate salary.
Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
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I just left my job a few months ago and my company knew. I made sure to do REI stuff outside business hours but my boss and director thought it was great and would constantly brag about it when introducing me to others. When I did quit, they both immediately congratulated me on starting my own business and have since been super suportive
Investor · Portland, OR · Member since 2012 · 266 posts · 128 votes
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Yes - my bosses know. But I've found the hard part as keeping it where they don't care.
Most bosses will be good with your investing, even if it takes a little bit of work-time (like an hour a week) - as long as your job is the type that permit it, and your work is being done. These are two big ifs.
If you're struggling to keep up with your job, or are in a service job where you need to be available immediately while at work - don't do it. If you're in a high-level professional job with good relationships with your bosses, and can maintain a high level of performance at work, you can do it.
Flipper · Port Deposit, MD · Member since 2014 · 280 posts · 171 votes
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I had no intention of telling my full time employer about my real estate endeavors. Then I downloaded an app that hijacked all of my contacts and sent them unsolicited spam email about how I was a licensed Realtor and to contact me for all of their needs. I spent the next three days explaining to my boss, my team and colleagues, and all of our customers that yes, I was newly licensed but no, I had no intention of leaving my current position to pursue a new career and that while I was open to helping them if they wanted to buy or sell a house, the email was unintentional. A lot of my colleagues thought it was deliberate and had no qualms about telling me how inappropriate and unprofessional they thought I was for me to "market" my new "business" to them. It was a NIGHTMARE.
Thankfully, the dust from all that mess has settled. The fact that I am licensed is in the back of everyones mind. One coworker comes to me to talk about his homeowning aspirations. I share our endeavors with another coworker, because we talk a lot and he sees me post RE related things on the Book of Face. Other than that, no one knows about our latest REI stuff because no one cares. My boss is in another country, and no one else in my office gives two craps about what I do outside of work :)
Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2014 · 79 posts · 70 votes
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My company requires ALL employees to get approval from Human Resources prior to accepting ANY outside employment. The company makes a determination whether a conflict of interest exists before giving approval. Also, they want to make sure NO company resources are used to conduct outside business.
I personally don't believe that purchasing rental properties would be within the scope of their policy. However, employees must disclose ALL Licenses in which they hold, so I would not be able to get my real estate license without first getting approval.
Investor · Edmond, OK · Member since 2014 · 31 posts · 5 votes
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Yes, my boss knows and she also invests. She discussed her first investment with me and shortly after that, I followed in her footsteps, using her rental manger, CPA and lawyers. I am the sole owner on my LLC so have to sign all documents and do all closings but am able to take time off when needed just as long as I get my work done.
Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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Great great answers guys. I work in a call center so this is by no means a corporate job. Turnover at these companies is pretty high. There really isn't much advancement so that's not what I'm worried about. If you guys have followed some of my other threads I will be moving this July out of state. So will hopefully be in a position where I can do REI full time.
Investor · Boyd, TX · Member since 2014 · 688 posts · 467 votes
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My immediate manager knows I do REI in fact I told her Monday that I will be having to take a half day next Friday for a closing. I am not sure if the higher ups know I am doing RE but they do know I have a farm and other income. I am in sort of an interesting situation since I work remotely from home in another state. I am also the expert in the system and was one of the architects of it originally almost 20 years ago and they were happy to get me back on the account a couple years ago since there are only two of us left in the US that have the same skills and the other is in a company that he will probably never leave. The account is also going to be going away in 2-3 years when the contract is taken over completely by another company that won the contract last year. They are already losing people jumping ship and are afraid it will get much worse as the end gets nearer. We have sort of an unofficial agreement that I will stay on to the bitter end as long as I can work from home and have a semi flexible schedule if needed. My plan is when I shut the lights out I will have a good start on my RE career with a good number of properties and had had my RE Salesperson license for a couple years that I can switch to full time if needed.