Just finished my first flip! $30k profit!

Just finished my first flip! $30k profit!

Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes

Hey everyone,

I just finished my first flip and profited over $30k! It feels good to know that I can be confident in my numbers and rehab estimates. I was only a couple grand off, which I feel pretty good about. Did most of the work myself, which helped my profit quite a bit. If you’re interested in the details, we documented the whole process on YouTube: https://youtu.be/dJ9KTHW78Hk

Anyone else pumped about a recent flip? I’d love to hear about it!

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Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
6y

Congrats on your success, not bad at all. As a suggestion, take all your hours spent on performing the rehab tasks and calculate what your hourly rate was from your profits. It may be beneficial for you next time to hire out tasks that are “below your pay grade” so you can focus on the higher paid tasks like finding deals, raising money, building your team, adding systems for efficiencies, etc.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Sham Soomer:

    Congrats! How long did it take you from the day you bought it to the day you sold the it?

    Thanks Sham!  It took about 4 Months +1 Week from closing to closing 

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Zion Durham:

    @Jamie McCauley Congratulations

    Thanks Zion!

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Michael Quarles:

    that is cool stuff!! In my 30 years of real estate investing and 100's of houses bought, I will always remember my first most vividly. keep pushing forward... don't wait to start hunting for your next deal. 

    Thanks Michael! It really gave my adrenaline to get out there and start the next one! Just began demo on a new one.

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Raymond Mathews:

    @Jamie McCauley that’s great!!! Plus you were able to save big time on handling the labor cost on your own.

    Thanks Raymond!  Definitely saved money, but I'm looking to build a team down the road so I don't have to do as much of the gruntwork.  I think I would get burnt out on it fast! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @James Williams:

    @Jamie McCauley this is awesome, I can't wait to put up a similar post. This is super motivating. Thank you for sharing.

    Thanks James!  Anyone can do it! Just have a solid knowledge base and solid numbers.

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Will Barnard:

    @Jamie McCauley Just had the chance to check out two of your videos. You and your wife should expect to hear from HGTV very soon, you both have a future in not just real estate, but film! Great job.

    Thanks Will! I appreciate it! haha It has been a fun creative outlet for me

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Ola Dantis:

    @Jamie McCauley 

    Your YouTube page is popping and your videos are great! 

    A W E S O M E job! 🏚⏩🏡

    Thanks a LOT Ola! :)

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Deb S.:

    @Will Barnard if The property was an investment property then I believe he could avoid capital gains by doing a 1031 exchange? If he lived in it then it would not be an investment property.

    Deb, 

    Take a look at 1031 Exchange laws but I'm pretty certain that it does not apply to flips. Flip profits are taxed at your income bracket %

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Brad Bartlett:

    Congrats! I am a newbie and Flipping will be my first strategy to build up my real estate business. Thanks for the post... it gives me encouragement seeing your success.

    Thanks Brad! Flipping is a great way to build capital for buy-and-holds or anything else. You can do it! Go for it!

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Jarrod Kohl:

    @Will Barnard

    Yes this is important. I had a lot of success in my first flip and did most of the work myself. Doing it with a contractor or even more helping hands cuts those profits quickly. But without contractors you won’t be able to scale.

    True!  I will get burnt out on gruntwork fast

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Terrence Davenport:

    @Jamie McCauley Can you share the top 5 important items to consider or have in place before purchasing 1st flip?

    Sure Terrence!

    1. Knowledge Base - knowing how much things cost to repair, what needs repairing, what are ARVs for the neighborhood, etc...

    2. Finances - you need a solid plan for how you are going to pay for the property and repairs.  Getting a traditional mortgage is usually the worst way for flips because your closing costs on the loan will eat into your profits.  You should also know how much money you will be spending in interest

    3. Do you have time to be hands on?  Things usually take WAY longer than expected if you are DIYing

    4. Is it really worth your time?  How much are you projecting to make and will it be worth your time.  There is definitely a line between yes and no!

    5. Are you cut out for it?  Do you have the grit to finish the job?  Do you have time/people management skills, etc...

    Hope this helps!

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Stephanie Drouillard:

    @Jamie McCauley

    That is awesome! I just watched your YouTube journey and loved it, well done! Are you going to be attending the Michigan Landlord and Real Estate investor conference in Grand Rapids this February? I would love to connect!

    Thanks Stephanie!  I haven't heard about the conference, but it seems very interesting to me! Ill check it out! thanks

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Aaron Sheagley:

    @Jamie McCauley

    I’m less than a month away from closing on my first flip can’t wait!

    Congrats on your flip!

    Awesome Aaron! Let's GO! Be sure to share your experience on the forum!

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Daidrian Thornton:

    @Jamie McCauley

    Good job man!!!! Setting the bar high 💯

    Thanks Daidrian! :)

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Bob Prisco:

    @Jamie McCauley thats ok, not great.  but now what ? You need to do it all over again, Flipping is a job, dont get me wrong a good one. lol. I have flipped about 500 props in the last 6, 7 years. I wish I held more for cash flow. Residual is what its all about. I am actually making money as I type this LOL....... Wealth is created by long term plays, not fix an flip...... All the best to you 

    BTW after taxes, all your carrying costs, true net us about 20k. I assume it took 6 months ish  start to finish ? 

    Bob it was not an amazing deal, but it was worth doing to me as I am looking to build capital for more rentals. It took about 3.5 months, which is longer than anticipated, but It was during the slow season of my main business so it didn't really hurt that bad.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Haddonfield nj · Member since 2016 · 46 posts · 24 votes
    6y

    Congrats!!

  • Specialist · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 666 votes
    6y

    @Jamie McCauley  4 months great!! Nice job, now do 10 more this year :)

    All the best to you

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Charles Holder:

    @Jamie McCauley

    Super cool.. did anyone help you in judging the deal and stuff.. super interested in this stuff but cold feet

    Hi Charles!

    Based of first glance, I believed the deal to be a good one.  I am fortunate to have my mentor also be my realtor and contractor lol.  So he can go through a house with me and estimate repair costs on site.  We can offer no inspections then, too :)

    Best of luck! You should totally go for it!

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 138 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Joseph Walsh:
    Originally posted by @Will Barnard:
    ....
    That is a very common and typical situation/mistake that we Investors all make when starting, trying to save every dime to make the most by doing things yourself. When you factor in the extra hold time for going slower and the fact you spent time doing physical labor rather than other more important aspects, you realize you made less going down that road.

    That said, that very same real world lesson is crucial so I often invite new investors to try going the hire each sub version even though it is more time intensive and even doing things yourself as you learn how much it should cost to “swing the hammer” and how long it should take to do the same. Those life lessons in real estate really helped me with scaling my business. 

    It's not necessarily a "mistake", unless you have been in the trades, or a long time home owner, "doing it yourself" the first time (or few times) has the education benefit of learning what you don't know.  Plus, on the first few, you just might not have the upfront cash to "hire it out"

    For example, I do my own electrical in my personal residence, and from that, I NOW it doesn't "cost" a lot in materials for electrical work (aside from some specialty breakers, GFCI's, etc.), but the labor is more intensive than you might think, so that $3500 bid is not unreasonable, unless it has $2k+ in materials....I also know I am not going to do the electrical in my REI due to the time/effort involved even though I could save $2.5K on that $3500 bid...it's not worth the week It'll take me, plus the "permitting lag" that happens if you aren't a local tradie, which sets back pretty much everything else, drywallers, flooring, cabinetry, paint...etc. Same with Drywall, I know what good drywalling takes from having done my own, and choose to hang it myself, but hire professionals to mud and tape and do the skim coat. Painting...depends, etc. You find these out from doing.

    But congrats!  I don't do flips but maybe I should look at them :D  +30k in 3.5 months....nice.

    Jay

    Thanks Jay!

    The more experience I gain, the more tasks I realize are worth hiring out vs doing myself.  Its been a learning process!

  • Contractor · Selkirk, NY · Member since 2015 · 16 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    @Jamie McCauley awesome! Congrats!! My father,brother and I just closed on our first flip today. We made $88,000 then split it 3ways. Looking for the next one.

  • Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    @Jamie McCauley I think your link is misspelled.

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 38 posts · 6 votes
    6y

    @Nathaniel Hovsepian can you give us more insight on pay per click leads. How you got started, where you advertise, and average spend per lead? Would love to connect to discuss more.

  • Professional · Canton, MI · Member since 2016 · 296 posts · 230 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Jamie McCauley:
    Originally posted by @Will Barnard:

    Congrats on your success, not bad at all. As a suggestion, take all your hours spent on performing the rehab tasks and calculate what your hourly rate was form your profits. It may be beneficial for you next time to hire out tasks that are “below your pay grade” so you can focus on the higher paid tasks like finding deals, raising money, building your team, adding systems for efficiencies, etc.

     Will, 

    Thanks for the suggestion!  That was one of my "woes" from this last project, how long it took me.  I was planning on 2 months when it actually took about 3.5.  If I continue flipping, I will definitely work on assembling a team.  


    Thanks Again!  Cheers

     I think Will is absolutely right for the long term. But if it's one of your first few flips, I think there's something very valuable about getting your own hands dirty to see what the process is like from the most basic angle. You understand how much time and energy different tasks take and then you can use that info when gauging bids/timelines from your contractors.

    Sometimes "obvious" things (use large tile instead of small tile where possible and you'll save time and money) aren't all that obvious unless you've done the work.

  • Member since 2020 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    did you know anything about construction?  I'd love to flip but I don't know where to get contractors 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Tampa, FL · Member since 2014 · 31 posts · 8 votes
    6y

    Congrats on the flip! Always a great feeling to have one under your belt. Wish you many many more!

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