Introduction into property management with cheap SFR
7 Replies
Zuriel M.
Investor from Lawton, OK
posted about 2 months ago
Investment Info:
Single-family residence buy & hold investment.
Purchase price: $20,000
Cash invested: $12,000
I'm gonna pay this house completely off and turn this one into a line of credit and will be practicing the concept of 'Velocity Banking'. Finding a proper licensed contractor would've blown my budget. I took the risk with an unlicensed uninsured handyman and had him sign a Certificate of Non-Coverage combined with adequate home insurance and it worked! His low quote warranted a large down payment and since he was referred by my mentor, he was trustworthy.
What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?
The condition of the property, desirable layout and location. Aside from old pipes, the location was in a bad neighborhood (cheap) but it was on the outskirts with no neighbors but an old couple. I interviewed the couple and decided it was a good buy from their info. The house is adjacent to an empty commercial lot and main intersection which is a potential for a future buyout and now see businesses are starting to setup shop in this area, the neighborhood won a budget initiative recently.
How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?
Zillow, I tried to negotiate a price in for repairs but the owners wouldn't budge. I felt it was still worth it, the ARV was 41k while listed for 20k.
How did you finance this deal?
Used cash as collateral in commercial loan which converted into a mortgage as part of the deal. An odd product, I'll go a different route next time to avoid finance charges on the conversion.
How did you add value to the deal?
Requested vinyl flooring to cover the bare concrete in the 2nd Livingroom, used modernized fixtures and added closet to qualify extra room as 3rd room on paper. Original fireplace was removed with prior owners, leaving wood floor in its place, so we covered with vinyl flooring and added electronic fireplace.
What was the outcome?
I'm using Avail.co to manage this rental and create the contract which borrows important clauses from Oklahoma Real Estate Commission contracts. As soon as I listed the home on Zillow, I got a flood of demand for rent and could only handle a few days of listing. It's now rented to a highly qualified couple, they even pre-paid for next month. I'll be ready for the next BRRRR soon, this only took so long because I'm inexperienced with property management and didn't know any contractors.
Lessons learned? Challenges?
Price-in for replacement pipes on offers in this market, finance with as little steps as possible to avoid finance charges. After hearing fellow investors seeing huge demand for rentals I became a believer after previously being very skeptical with this town. Listen to wisdom from experienced people. You can give the little guy a chance but with plenty of safeguards and generous exit plan. During the rehab, pipes leaked and had a well-known plumbing company came out 3 times for fixes.
Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?
Contractor - Terrance Harris
Plumber - Andy's Plumbing
Realtor - Nita Rodriguez/Remax
Sean T.
Rental Property Investor from MA
replied about 2 months ago
@Zuriel M. Congrats! I am not currently in the Lawton market but I do see portfolios come across and was curious who was investing there! Thanks for the write up.
Zuriel M.
Investor from Lawton, OK
replied about 2 months ago
One of the BPP episodes had J. Scott describing that one of his favorite markets are military towns. The bases are like 'Anchor' stores in shopping malls. This market is one of the cheapest places I've ever seen.
Abe DeHart
from Lawton, OK
replied about 2 months ago
Nice work! Sounds like you were able to avoid major pitfalls. Lawton is a great town when you figure out how to make it work. Lots of deals on old houses, but also a lot of the unique challenges that come from military towns. Always a ton of vacant houses and apartments here due to supply/demand mismatch and poor management.
Douglas Spence
Investor from San Diego, CA
replied about 2 months ago
@Zuriel M. Congrats on your first deal in Lawton! Thanks for sharing your progress. Do you see Lawton as a market with solid growth potential?
Abe DeHart
from Lawton, OK
replied about 2 months ago
Originally posted by @Douglas Spence :@Zuriel M. Congrats on your first deal in Lawton! Thanks for sharing your progress. Do you see Lawton as a market with solid growth potential?
Doug - I have 40 units in Lawton. The market is relatively stagnant and completely dependent on Ft. Sill (the local military post). There is a lot of excess inventory particularly stuff built in the 1940s-1970s. However, there is potential for great cashflow when you can buy right and manage right. I’d highly recommend you take a flight to the town and decide if it’s still somewhere you’d like to invest. It can be a bit rough for some folks’ tastes. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
Douglas Spence
Investor from San Diego, CA
replied about 2 months ago
Originally posted by @Abe DeHart :Originally posted by @Douglas Spence:@Zuriel M. Congrats on your first deal in Lawton! Thanks for sharing your progress. Do you see Lawton as a market with solid growth potential?
Doug - I have 40 units in Lawton. The market is relatively stagnant and completely dependent on Ft. Sill (the local military post). There is a lot of excess inventory particularly stuff built in the 1940s-1970s. However, there is potential for great cashflow when you can buy right and manage right. I’d highly recommend you take a flight to the town and decide if it’s still somewhere you’d like to invest. It can be a bit rough for some folks’ tastes. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
Thanks, Abe! I have been to Fort Sill once for training, and I'm heading to OKC for work at the beginning of January. We will probably head out to Fort Sill to work those ranges while we're out there, and I'll take an extra look at the Lawton neighborhoods while I'm there. One of the factors I look for when deciding on markets to invest in is a local economy not reliant on a single employer. Do you see more employers moving into the area any time soon? Or do you think it will be just Ft Still for a while? Thanks for the insight!
Abe DeHart
from Lawton, OK
replied about 2 months ago
Originally posted by @Douglas Spence :Originally posted by @Abe DeHart:Originally posted by @Douglas Spence:@Zuriel M. Congrats on your first deal in Lawton! Thanks for sharing your progress. Do you see Lawton as a market with solid growth potential?
Doug - I have 40 units in Lawton. The market is relatively stagnant and completely dependent on Ft. Sill (the local military post). There is a lot of excess inventory particularly stuff built in the 1940s-1970s. However, there is potential for great cashflow when you can buy right and manage right. I’d highly recommend you take a flight to the town and decide if it’s still somewhere you’d like to invest. It can be a bit rough for some folks’ tastes. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
Thanks, Abe! I have been to Fort Sill once for training, and I'm heading to OKC for work at the beginning of January. We will probably head out to Fort Sill to work those ranges while we're out there, and I'll take an extra look at the Lawton neighborhoods while I'm there. One of the factors I look for when deciding on markets to invest in is a local economy not reliant on a single employer. Do you see more employers moving into the area any time soon? Or do you think it will be just Ft Still for a while? Thanks for the insight!
Doug - Great. It sounds like you are somewhat familiar with the market. The Army is far and away the largest employer. However there is a large Goodyear plant close by. I believe the other primary employers are Walmart Stores, the local hospitals, and the local government. I’m happy to give you my perspective on whether Lawton will grow and the likelihood of larger business coming in. I don’t think the post is going anywhere, but I also don’t seem massive growth.
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